Loew's Valencia Theatre

165-11 Jamaica Avenue,
Jamaica, NY 11432

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Bway
Bway on July 20, 2004 at 2:19 pm

I remember walking by on the sidestreet in the early 80’s, and the side doors to the “Tabernacle of Prayer” being open. I couldn’t believe the ornateness of the the theater. Unfortuntaely, I had never seen a movie there.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on July 20, 2004 at 2:01 pm

Jim Mannix, I will look forward to you posting your mother’s memories. “Gorgo” must have been awesome, on the Valencia’s huge screen, and booming sound system ! My dad was going to take me to see it at the Ridgewood Theater (which see on this site), in the Queens neighborhood of the same name, where we lived, but I was only six, and he was afraid I would be scared, so he didn’t.

Good comment about the ceiling ! The Valencia was one of those extremely ornate movie palaces in which, if the film was of insufficient interest, one could always enjoy looking at the decor !

My dad remembers the Valencia’s beautiful ceiling, as does a friend of mine, age 56, who, as a small boy, thought it really was the sky !

JamesMannix
JamesMannix on July 20, 2004 at 1:03 pm

I visited the Valencia many times as a child, my grandparents lived within a somewhat long walking distance…my mother recalls seeing lots there..once I get more of what she remembers I will supply. Last film I saw there was Gorgo but like any film I wistnessed there it had better be good as most of the time I gazed at the ceiling with wonder.

George11433
George11433 on June 26, 2004 at 7:19 pm

gb My own Valencia Excerpt

My grandmother and mother used to take me to the Loews Valencia on 165th St. Jamaica Avenue. I don’t remember much about our trips. The last involvement my mother had was when she sent me with my buddies and the oldest brother; Vic, Ant and Johnny. Johnny was older; he was about 16 and knew the security guard. We kept the money for food.
I remember the smell of beer and weed. The food was great; the rest rooms were better kept ten I expected. My mother also took me regularly to Radio City Music Hall at Rockafeller Center, for under $3.75 back then. There, and the Valencia were my favorites. The movie we viewed was a Karate flick, where they completely dismembered their victims in mid air. I don’t remember the name.
The last flick I remember seeing was with Ant and Vic. It was King Kong. We admired the gold fish, ate our pop corn, and walked back home. The afros were thick, the velvet black art was popular, Evil Kenevil was on the model Zenith System III, and Fly Robin Fly was the hit, followed by Twenty-Five Miles from Home… Sneakers were only $8.99, for the popular Keds, the Uptown model…
Then it seemed that crime was taking over and the economy was loosing. Radio City Closed down, I kept the program. The Valencia closed. I was just a kid and didn’t know why. Then The Jamaica Tabernacle of Prayer opened up, starting a new development trend that is still booming. We all know Radio City doesn’t have a show with a movie anymore, and the price all over town jumped. The little spot in front of the store, for the man to display a cardboard box with cologne, is worth $400 per month this year 2004.
The Jamaica Tabernacle is rollin’… Community service, outreach, ministry, in beauty… I understand there are historians who would expect other forms of maintaining the edifice. Now, this is me thinking, why don’t you pay for the work to be done? Otherwise, it is still a church. I don’t know about the finances in this church or your church, but as a visiting deacon who visits many churches, even the rich churches have their finances limited.
Santa Monica Church by York College was demolished, but they preserved the face of the building to be the entrance of what I believe will be the nursery. Mario Cuomo was an alter boy there, and I was baptized there. I remember the pews and furnishings had hand carved paws for feet.
Presentation of the BVM Church on Parsons Blvd. once boasted the best pipe organ with music I used to hear when I walked by. I know it’s not only expensive to maintain as an instrument, but the temperature and humidity had to be maintained as well. The pipes are velvet coated from the interior, as you experts know, and for it to work properly, the environment had to be perfect.
I plan to visit the Jamaica Tabernacle this coming month, July. It started about 9 am, praise and worship started when the first person showed up and grabbed the mic. By the end of two hours, the whole choir and band joined in. Then the first speaker was an hour. Offertory was an hour, where you get a chance to eat. I snuck out for a street shish-ke-bob, or a hot Jamaican beef pattie in cocoa bread.
Then the next speaker had about an hour, before the main speaker came out. Pastor Ronnie Davis is a mighty man of God. You may think that’s long. We’d get out at about three or for in the afternoon, but it was a blessing. After all, it is a Sabbath “day”….

GeorgeBrown19662hotmail.com

rbarry
rbarry on June 24, 2004 at 11:29 am

I to remember the cartoon Satuday’s at the Alden. I’m going back to 1946-48. yes the Valencia was just across the street. And a good thing that was!

KenF
KenF on June 23, 2004 at 7:56 pm

The splendor of the Valencia stood in stark contrast to the drab and uninviting Alden directly across the street. What disappointment we felt when a picture we wanted to see was booked at the Alden! After the long bus ride from Bellerose, and the permanent gloomy twilight under the Jamaica Avenue el, we often abandoned our plans and went to the Valencia, regardless of what was playing. The Alden used to sponsor special showings for kids sponsored, I guess, by local merchants. We were never too eager to attend, knowing we would sit there in the dank auditorium and dream of the Valencia, so near and yet…

EMarkisch
EMarkisch on June 22, 2004 at 4:23 pm

My first encounter with the Valencia was in the summer of 1950, when they played “Scared Stiff” with Martin and Lewis. The stars twinkled and the clouds drifted across the atmospheric sky…a first time experience not to be forgotten. Other memorable films that come to mind were the 1956 reissue of “Gone With The Wind”, a reissue of “Duel in the Sun”, “La Strada”, “Two Women” and the special reserved engagement of “The Ten Commandments”.

The Valencia had the best air conditioning of all the Jamaica theaters. Whatever their system was, the whole theater was like a giant meat locker. Still remember waiting in front of the theater for a bus on a hot summer’s day and feeling a blast of cold air every time someone opened one of the lobby doors.

Also recall that in the early 50’s, before using studio generated posters in their display cases, posters were created by either an in house art department at the Valencia or, more likely, an art department within the Loew’s Theaters organization. Some were quite unique and certainly added a touch of class to the whole operation.

JimRankin
JimRankin on June 19, 2004 at 5:35 am

While the VALENCIA was not Eberson’s greatest work, it still stands as one of the largest and nicest former movie palaces in the nation, and when I saw the modern color photos of it on page 188 of David Naylor’s “American Picture Palaces: The Architecture of Fantasy” I was intrigued to see the draped plaster figures of ladies inside niches forming the vault of the proscenium arch, but horrified by the treatment of the giant chandelier then suspended directly above the balcony rail, just as though it were hanging in nothingness from the ‘sky.’ They may not use the little electric ‘stars’ anymore, but the very least they could have done when installing the scaffolding to drape the figures and hang the chandelier, was to paint on the ceiling an angel with his hand outstretched to appear to be holding up the chandelier!! Without this little touch, the huge fixture just falsifies the interior. Church or not, they could do something as small as this to retain some of the imagination of the artists who conceived the place. By the way, Naylor’s book can sometimes be obtained at www.Amazon.com or via Inter-Library Loan at most libraries.

jflundy
jflundy on June 18, 2004 at 4:57 pm

During the Second World War there was a tremendous increase in movie going in North America.

Thaters which had closed during the Depression were reopened and the number of daily showings increasded in the busiest areas. In Canada children were banned from theaters for the duration to free up seats for adults involved in the war effort. Some theaters ran the program around the clock to cater to defense workers working the swing and graveyard shifts. ( Canadian comic books went to black and white printing, producing copies of USA color comic books for local consumption to save resources for the war).

Circa 1943 Loews paved over the orchestra/organ pits in several theaters to allow more revenue producing seats in response to demand. You had to see the crowds lined up in the lobbies and out onto the street waiting for a seat.

Back then, people would come in at any time during a show and leave when they reached the part they came in at. This was common, the way it was done, incompehensible to today’s people but part of the movie culture back then.

The Valencia was altered at this period in history, burying the organ console.

bzemanbz
bzemanbz on June 3, 2004 at 12:12 pm

Warren, you’re right about the placement of the console. It was in the far left portion of the orchestra pit. The pit had a concrete floor built over it, but if you went down under the stage, you could still get through a small doorway into a chamber under the floor which was where the orchestra lift and the organ console lift were still extant. The console was there, although in very poor shape. The pipe chambers up in the auditorium were on either side of the stage in the large structures that resembled Spanish Villas. The chamber on the left was entered from backstage, but the one on the right had to be entered via a door on 165th Street.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on June 1, 2004 at 12:35 pm

Thanks, guys, Warren and elliston and brother. Wow, ushers two to three years before I was born ! You read like contemporaries of Carol Burnett ! I remember her saying she saw “Strangers On A Train” hundreds of times due to her job as an usherette / candy girl, and that was 1951.

My favorite line from “Moulin Rouge” (I saw it at Thalia Soho, Fall 1987), the REAL “Moulin Rouge”, with Jose Ferrer as Toulouse-Lautrec, both father and son, not that putrid farce of a remake with “No Coal Kid Me” (see it with “Eyes Tight Shut”), was when that ingenue, or whatever she was, played by Zsa Zsa Gabor, says, “Dahling, zey come to luke at my bwoken heart !” and Toulouse the son, the artist, says, with perfect insouciance and world-weary ennui a la George Sanders, “But my dear, it’s been broken SO MANY TIMES !!!”

Reminiscent of Johnny Carson needling her to her face, “Any gal with a drip dry wedding dress can’t be all bad !”

Of actors working today, I think Alan Rickman could best deliver that line now. Similar to how he said, “By Grabthar’s Hammer … what a saving !” in 2000’s “Galaxy Quest”.

Yeah I know this comment belongs on the Internet Movie Database but I wanted you guys to read it.

rbarry
rbarry on June 1, 2004 at 11:43 am

I was an usher at the Valencia in winter of 1952 to June of 1953 with my twin brother. The movie playing was “Moulin Rouge”, “I Love Melvin!” and numerous others I have since forgotten. Mr “Z” was the Manager. We were both freshmen at Boy’s High in Brooklyn. In July of 1953 we both worked at the Astor and Victoria theatres in Times Square. Stayed there until graduation in 1956.. Great time!

bzemanbz
bzemanbz on May 28, 2004 at 1:13 pm

I would think it was a 4/23 or 4/28 rather than a 4/73 (which would make it bigger than the Wurlitzer in RCMH! It definitely was not removed in the 30’s; it went to his studio in Rosedale in 1965 where it remained until the house was sold after he passed away. I was there with Pete and others who removed it in ‘65 and helped to releather the combination action and chest pneumatics to make it playable. It had a Wurlitzer roll player, Moller roll player and Aeolian Duo-Art roll player attached so it could be played in the absence of a live organist since neither Pete nor most of the guys who restored it played. Needless to say, there was never any lack of ways for it to be heard. Gaylord Carter, Jeff Barker, Calvin Hampton and C.A.J. Parmentier (of ROXY fame) were among the many well-known organists who visited.
The last I heard of it was that it was going to the Sanfilippo residence, but I’m glad to hear it will stand on its own eventually. ‘nuff said…

EMarkisch
EMarkisch on May 27, 2004 at 4:18 pm

The following information concerning the whereabouts of the Valencia’s Wonder Morton was found on the Garden State Organ Society’s web page.

“This article appeared in the American Theatre Organ Society Web Journal Wednesday, April 09, 2003
One more of the five Wonder Mortons is going to a new home. The 4/73 organ originally installed in the Loew’s Valencia Theatre in Jamaica, Queens, New York will be installed in the Balboa Theatre in San Diego.
In 1966, the late Peter Schaeble purchased the organ from the theatre and had it installed in an addition to his Long Island house. After his death in 1996, Jasper Sanfilippo acquired the organ and stored it with the idea of installing it in the carousel building on his properly. This did not come about.
The Balboa Theatre Foundation intends to restore the theatre which once had a smaller Robert Morton organ. That organ was removed in 1931 and installed in another San Diego theatre where it remains today. The Balboa Theatre Foundation has purchased the Wonder Morton from Sanfilippo to install in the restored theatre. The restoration will take about two years.”

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on May 26, 2004 at 1:59 pm

Thanks, Robbie.

bzemanbz
bzemanbz on May 26, 2004 at 1:51 pm

The Valencia’s “Wonder Morton” organ was last played in 1965.
It was bought from Loew’s and was to be removed to a studio in Rosedale, Queens to join the Wurlitzer (?) from Loew’s (Sutphin Blvd) Hillside Theater. The movie that was playing on the day the cables were to be cut was “Those Magnificent Men And Their Flying Machines”. Before the theater opened we greased the blower bearings and turned on the current. Oddly enough, after almost 20 years or so of silence, it came to life with only a few dozen cyphers. We stopped the pipes to silence them and one fellow squeezed throught the door to the console (which was buried under the floored-over orchestra pit. A cable was dropped to the console for earphones so that he could hear the organ in the auditorium above. When the house opened and a few cusotmers came in the organ roared forth with the movie theme and segued into the start of the movie. We played it between the main feature and shorts for a good portion of the day. I remember going into the lobby and the elderly lady behind the candy counter asked me, “Is that the organ playing? I haven’t heard the organ in years- I thought it was gone!” and she went over to the auditorium doors to listen. There were many comments from patrons who received a healthy dose of nostalgia that day. The organ was completely restored and spent many years in Rosedale (I lived a short distance away and played it frequently). It was subsequently sold and shipped to Barrington Hills, IL where it was absorbed by the behemoth in the Music Palace.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on May 20, 2004 at 8:31 am

“Squirm” was a 1976 film and “Tentacles” was a 1977 film. I know the theater was still showing films in August 1976 so perhaps “Tentacles” is the last one the RKO Madison showed. Perhaps someone on this site will be zealous enough to go into the N Y Times archives and find the last and latest movie listing for the RKO Madison. Someone did this to find out what the Oriental in Bensonhurst, Bklyn was showing in August 1981.

RobertR
RobertR on May 20, 2004 at 8:12 am

I was the one who mentioned Tentacles and Squirm at The RKO madison. I think though that this may have been after RKO dropped the theatre and it reopened for a short time as an “indie”.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on May 20, 2004 at 7:49 am

Thanks, Warren. It would be interesting to compare this film with the 2001 film, “Ali”, with Will Smith in the title role.

Any idea what the last film shown at the RKo Madison Theater in Ridgewood was ? The 1977 film “Tentacles” has been indirectly suggested.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on May 13, 2004 at 8:25 am

Thank you Warren. I may post that and other comments, like the date of the image of the active Hillside theater in Jamaica, Queens, on nycsubway.org.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on May 12, 2004 at 2:16 pm

Part of the facade, and /or the vertical sign, of Loew’s Valencia, on Jamaica Avenue, is visible at the left side of the following images :

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3021
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3022
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?12230
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?5557
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?4642
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?26369

Some of these photos were taken in the late afternoon. It is interesting to see how the direction of the shadows changes with the date (time of the year). These photos face east, and the sun is clearly to the northwest in August 1970 and clearly to the southwest on New Year’s Day 1977.

Image 5557 shows the cross-shaped sign for the “Tabernacle Of Prayer” church attached to the baroque facade.

mahermusic
mahermusic on April 25, 2004 at 7:06 pm

Thanks for the info, Warren. Rechecked the books today, and we DO have articles about the Valencia’s opening. I believe I was reading about the Kings, perhaps. (four of the five theatres would then have been correct now, wouldn’t it?)

mahermusic
mahermusic on April 24, 2004 at 7:54 pm

The opening of the Loew’s Valencia was September 29th, 1929. We hold the Loew’s theatre information ledgers from that time period, which are from the Loew’s Jersey. Furthermore, there are no newspaper articles listing any of the five Loew’s Wonder Theaters before September 7th, 1929.

Which newspaper is your article from that claims the Valencia opened? What is the date of the newspaper? Can you provide a scan of the article/advertisement to back this up? (We find this incredulous because the foundations for four of the five “Wonder Theaters” were being poured in January, 1929…

mahermusic
mahermusic on March 7, 2004 at 8:02 am

The Loew’s Valencia, one of the 5 Loew’s “Wonder Theaters” in New Jersey and New York, opened on September 28th, 1929. It was actually the 4th of the five theaters to open. Loew’s Paradise and Loew’s Kings were the 1st and second Wonder Theaters to open, both on the same day, September 7th, 1929. The Beautiful Loew’s Jersey was the third Wonder Theater to open, on September 28th, 1929. The Valencia opened the next day, on the 29th. Loews 175th was the last and final Wonder Theater theater to open, in 1930.

rbarry
rbarry on February 8, 2004 at 2:33 pm

Thanks for clearing up the mystery of “Mr. Z”. Different era, different time! Thanks!