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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London Leicester Square on Dec 25, 2021 at 12:45 pm

Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year to all. Fingers crossed that cinemas will continue to operate at a reasonable level of normalcy!

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CF100 commented about Vue Watford on Dec 5, 2021 at 12:35 pm

As well as recliners being installed, auditoria and public areas were fully refurbished to current Vue house style. Main fit-out contractor was Swindon Interiors:

Swindon Interiors - Vue Watford Project Description.

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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London Leicester Square on Nov 24, 2021 at 6:11 pm

Fred Fullerton (former Chief Projectionist at the Empire Leicester Square) has recently uploaded many videos on YouTube, some of which are particularly special.

Odeon Leicester Square — Safety Curtain.

The above-linked video was taken just before the 1997 refurbishment. Two sets of tabs opening and lowering of the safety curtain can be seen, as well as “The Duchess” Compton organ emerging from the stage.

I had forgotten that the screen used to be positioned so low and at such a steep angle.

Another video shows the matching splay wall decorative lighting feature from 1987:

Odeon Leicester Square — Flo Neon.

I can’t say that I have ever heard of “flo neon,” although I did wonder how that effect was achieved. These days, addressable LED strips could do similar (and more!)

I remember this interesting feature well, however. By the time this video was shot, it looked somewhat dated, partially because it didn’t appear to be under digital control, going by the not-quite-perfect timing. Also, not infrequently, sections would be in need of replacement.

I also found that, whilst I liked it, it gave me an oddly unsettling feeling, rather than being relaxing before the programme… although I’m really not sure why…

At the start of the second video, the “Thieves are Silent” snipe featuring an animated snake can also be seen. Back then, this was also often shown in the old Empire 1.

It is very unfortunate that FanaticalAboutOdeon is no longer with us. He would surely have been delighted to see this footage of those old tabs.

Speaking for myself, however, I am very grateful that these videos have been shared.

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CF100 commented about Cineworld Cinema - Leicester Square on Nov 10, 2021 at 12:25 pm

terrywade: Beautiful indeed but I’m afraid this is a blast from the past as those lights date from 1962, with lighting control from an ARRI unit as of 1988.

In 2013/14 the auditorium was converted to an IMAX (so no tabs or masking) and the replacement lighting was 151 LED bars containing high power red, green and blue OSRAM OLSON LED’s (i.e. top-of-the-line.)

No expense spared, then, on equipment and I’m certainly glad that it’s there. (Cineworld had better keep it intact!) It is still quite impressive (albeit sidewalls/ceiling now black fabric, so challenging to “wash” with light.)

However, it could be noted that there are no footlights and the programming doesn’t make full use of the colour mixing possibilities. All are synchronised to the same colour (including additional red/green/blue LED modules behind the seats) and they cycle between red, green, and blue, holding for something like 40 seconds with a 15 second cross-fade, if I remember correctly.

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CF100 commented about Empire Cinemas - London Haymarket on Nov 9, 2021 at 3:41 pm

Somehow, I didn’t notice the façade of this theatre in the trailer, until someone pointed it out to me!

How images were acquired/created would be interesting–the old neon spectacular adverts at Piccadilly Circus (aka Piccadilly Lights) also make an appearance in the trailer, so perhaps they are CGI versions composited in. Highly likely the case for the large format “Thunderball” advert on this cinema’s façade that appears in the trailer.


I did enjoy “Baby Driver” for the cinematography and otherwise being well put together; great fun. Reviews for this have been lukewarm. Hmm.

HowardBHaas: Good to hear that you really liked the film!

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CF100 commented about Showcase Cinemas Foresters Park, Derby on Nov 7, 2021 at 12:47 pm

That the design of these original generation Showcase Cinemas in the UK came over from the US apparently even extended to, in at least one location, having the surface car park’s kerbs painted rather than double yellow lines on the adjacent road surface, as used in the UK to indicate “no parking.” Quite strange.

I always rather liked the external design of these multiplexes, even if not the highest quality finish (c.f. cladding, powder coated metal, etc.) Alas, what was once the clean and modern face of the future of movie exhibition has not always survived exposure to the elements so well, at least being in need of a coat or two of paint.


28 Days Later report.

The above reveals that it still had a “first generation” multiplex interior that gave such venues a bad name–-now thoroughly obsolete. It seems hardly necessary to go through all that’s wrong with it; but of particular note is that carpet design–-what on Earth anyone was thinking when it was specified will likely ever remain a mystery…

Absorption/insulation behind the pleated (“Soundfold”-type) auditoria sidewall panels is visible where they are coming off in a couple of places.

One Christie film projector can be seen. 2D/3D lens changeover instructions reference Sony SRX-R320 S-XRD projection.


rivest266: Not sure about this being the “same” design as the Commack Multiplex; “historic” aerial views show a completely differently shaped building. The main frontages aren’t the same, either.

I notice that the Commack Multiplex site is now home to a Lowe’s Home Improvement store, which I suppose is (very tenuously) ironic…!

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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London West End on Nov 6, 2021 at 9:14 pm

Edgar Wright has posted a video of the entrance corridor to the Dolby Cinema auditorium.

AFAIK this is currently the only Dolby Cinema in the UK to include the “AVP corridor” feature.

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CF100 commented about Odeon BFI London IMAX Cinema on Nov 5, 2021 at 1:37 pm

According to an article published on the 1st September 2021, which links to reports from Lambeth Council, feasibility studies for an “office-led” scheme encompassing the IMAX site continue, with a further £150,000 funding allocated.

One may still be slightly puzzled as to why laser light source projection has not been installed, for it could always be moved over to any replacement venue built as part of such a scheme, and it has been six years since the IMAX GT dual-laser projection system was installed in Leicester Square…

But it does seem to be the most likely explanation for the lack of substantial investment in this ever-popular venue; another example being the auditorium seating, which looks very tired.

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CF100 commented about Odeon BFI London IMAX Cinema on Nov 5, 2021 at 1:33 pm

Full “Dollhouse” 3D tour available on private bookings site:

3D Tour.

In addition to the cross-sectional 3D reconstruction, many 360° photos throughout the publicly-accessible areas can be seen.


Looking at photos of the auditorium, it appears that some more recent changes have been made. The sidewall fabric looks darker, and new decorative lighting added.

The screen frame and speakers are visible, including the “Kanga” speakers for GT venues. (The older IMAX “Proportional Point Source” speakers were replaced in 2012 when a new screen was installed.)

Non-IMAX speakers can also be seen, including the very strange arrangement of two sets of screen speakers with neither of the two centre speakers quite centrally positioned, as well as the rear array on the auditorium side/back walls.

Obviously, no IMAX sides/overheads as IMAX with Laser upgrade has not occurred, hence 12 channel IMAX audio is not supported.

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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London Leicester Square on Nov 5, 2021 at 10:41 am

Full “Dollhouse” 3D tour available on private bookings site:

3D Tour.

In addition to the cross-sectional 3D reconstruction, many 360° photos throughout the publicly-accessible areas can be seen.

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CF100 commented about Arc Cinema Beeston on Oct 20, 2021 at 7:42 pm

Particularly attractive arrangement of linear LED strips/stretched fabric wall coverings. This demonstrates how, with a bit of thought, tasteful design possibilities can readily be achieved with these industry standard off-the-shelf components*; too often the result is either bland or suggests non-existent aesthetic sensibility.

(* Not to suggest these are not very high quality parts; they are.)

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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London West End on Oct 18, 2021 at 2:58 pm

SethLewis: Odeon are/were the leaseholder for both the West End and “Covent Garden” locations, with redevelopment of both sites proposed/completed such that cinemas are spatially not the primary use, that instead being hotel accommodation/associated facilities.

The current state of the Odeon Covent Garden appears to be that the 2017 planning application was rejected, and on 10/03/21 was dismissed on appeal. I could not find any further applications on Camden Council’s planning database.

That being said, from the 2017 application, unlike the OWE, for any redevelopment of the “Covent Garden” site incorporating a cinema, another operator would need to be found. Clearly, any such redevelopment is years away from completion…

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CF100 commented about Empire Cinemas - London Haymarket on Oct 15, 2021 at 5:56 pm

Thank you, Zappomatic, for the planning reference.

It turns out that the proposals are extensive indeed, and need to be seen in the context of building’s 2018 listing.


In particular, the freeholder is the Crown Estate, who are redeveloping the surrounding area (“St. James’s Market Phase 2”), with Chapman Taylor as their architect, and from the Design and Access Statement:

  • “The works undertaken by the landlord [my emphasis], which form part of this application for listed building consent, would include…”

In summary, the following: basement cinema auditoria reconfiguration, new lifts, restoration/alterations to the façade, and–

  • “the repair of historic interiors and the reinstatement of lost detail in the main auditorium and sub-basement bar.”

It further states that:

“Other works would be at the operator’s discretion and would be subject to a further application for listed building consent[…] The operator would also refurbish areas that do not contribute to the significance of the listed building and may not require listed building consent.” However, “indicative” proposals for said refurbishment are given in this application.


The proposals include retail/offices behind, which at upper levels will–-I kid you not!–-“overhang” the cinema’s roof–hidden behind the existing front parapet.

The work is proposed to be “conservation-led” with the retention/restoration of remaining original or replica fabric and finishes, and sympathetic treatment to surrounding areas. This includes stripping of paint and sampling of original colours, as well referencing relevant heritage colours and finishes.


Alas, the planning application documents are very much “TL;DR.” However, for anyone interested, or for academic purposes, there is a wealth of information, including historic, within the Design and Access Statement–a very high level of attention to detail being demonstrated.

(Read: I’m too tired to properly digest and summarise them.)


Luxury seating will be installed throughout with the stadia in Screen 1 reprofiled over the original. The four basement auditoria will be “back-to-back” (like the IMAX/Superscreen over at Cineworld Leicester Square), are more symmetrically shaped than the existing centrally-subdivided original stalls, and the replacement screens look to be about the same size as the existing.


The scheme looks to be very much be in the vein of “arthouse” operators such as Curzon, Everyman or Picturehouse; and, of course, there is much space available (and proposed to be used) for presumably upmarket food and beverage offers, as in bars, lounges, etc.

Empire Cinemas do have their own similar premium brand, “Tivoli,” with sites in Bath and Cheltenham–so perhaps they will adopt the same branding here? Incidentally, the website of Tivoli states that they use laser projection, so one might have high expectations here in respect of audio/visual presentation quality.


Should these works be completed as detailed or similar to that indicated in these proposals, I imagine some contributors to this site will be absolutely delighted.

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CF100 commented about Cineworld Cinema - Leicester Square on Oct 15, 2021 at 1:51 pm

Photos of the old Empire 1 (press conference with actor Robert Vaughn) taken in 1966:

Photo 1.

Photo 2.

Shame they are not colour!

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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London West End on Oct 9, 2021 at 2:47 pm

Ian: Thank you for posting links to those photos. It looks like Screen 2, happily, has a masked screen (c.f. the floating screen in Screen 1;) do you know if moveable masking is in use?

It also appears to be exceptionally bland–not even linear lighting to add a dash of colour to the sidewalls?

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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London Leicester Square on Oct 8, 2021 at 12:42 pm

Lionel: Haven’t kept up to speed on the COVID rules regarding entry to the UK, so not sure if there are any real hoops for you to jump through?

I happened to pass through Leicester Square earlier this week, and whilst it was good to see custom Odeon typeface “007” signage on the OLS, the surrounding environs do look somewhat forlorn from the impact of COVID on visitation.

Hopefully things will be closer to normal soon so you are able to visit… I gather that the OLS is even closing tabs at the end of Bond screenings!

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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London West End on Oct 8, 2021 at 11:59 am

moviebuff82:

I saw the new “007” film in the IMAX auditorium at Cineworld Watford (a town ~16 miles NW of London), the first time I’ve been to the cinema since February 2020! It has a 1.9:1 ratio screen, ~72ft. wide, single IMAX laser projection, and 12 channel IMAX sound.

Whilst some of the film was shot on IMAX 70mm film cameras, and some scenes are presented in full height 1.43:1 in a suitably equipped venue (i.e. IMAX dual laser projection with the necessary screen height), these total duration of these scenes is less than 30 minutes.


A friend of mine timed them thusly:

  • Opening credits: ~4 min.

  • Section at start of movie: ~23.5 min.

  • Cuba sequence: ~4 min.

  • End credits: ~6 min.


Nevertheless, I think you’d be missing out if viewing a “scope” only presentation.

(Alas, the only IMAX venue in this country offering a 1.43:1 presentation for this film is in Manchester, almost 250 miles [by road per Google Maps directions] North of where I live; not being willing to travel that distance just for this film, the only IMAX option was 1.9:1.)


The film itself is probably not a “classic” but it certainly ticks all the boxes for an enjoyable Bond outing; epic scale, wall-to-wall action and plot turns, excellent cinematography and locations. (No ghastly “cinéma vérité”-style “shakycam!”)

There was only the odd bit of grain in the IMAX presentation, so must have gone through digital noise reduction processing. The image quality is a “best of both worlds” hybrid, with a softer/diffused filmic look, whilst the (mostly excellent and consistent) colour grading makes ample use of the options available today with saturated greens and cyans at times; overall typically heavily stylised in a glamourous way.

Sound, too, was good–albeit not quite as loud as expected. (Some of the trailers before the main feature, on the other hand, were ear-splitting!) There was some clear use of the overhead channels, most noticeably dialogue being panned to them when characters were using earpieces, which I found slightly distracting.

As is by now widely known, there is a contemporary political issue around the future of the franchise, and you may or may not find this affects your enjoyment… and I think that’s all I’ll say about that here…


Getting back to the point of this page, which is about a cinema that boasts a Dolby Cinema system in its main auditorium… The “filmic” look is also benefitted by IMAX’s projection, which (even the single laser projection system) seems to achieve a smoother image than Dolby Cinema; therefore I recommend viewing it in an IMAX with Laser equipped venue.


It’s great fun and it, surprisingly, does live up to the hype–so I’d say go see it in the best cinema you can.

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CF100 commented about Today at OLS on Oct 6, 2021 at 7:23 pm

Re: Comment–Fantastic!

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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London West End on Oct 6, 2021 at 5:24 am

Screen 1 (Dolby Cinema) screen width is, according to Odeon, 13.3m (~43.5ft.), which given the sidewalls splay in slightly towards the stage end, is in line with my previous measurements.

Measurements off the licensing plans per previous post therefore yield a screen width of ~37ft. for Screen 2.


It is perhaps worth noting that the redevelopment (over less than a decade) of all the main Leicester Square cinemas is now complete; other than Vue (aka Warner), this has been on a scale not seen since the 1960’s. It now boasts 6 “PLF spec.” auditoria with high end projection and sound. Excluding the core/shell construction cost of the replacement OWE, this must amount to an investment greater than £30m.

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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London West End on Oct 1, 2021 at 3:48 pm

Plans (i.e. showing the revised internal layout per the fit-out from core/shell) can be found in the following licensing application:

20/03120/LIPN.

It also clearly delineates the cinema’s demise, c.f. plans for the whole redevelopment.


Alas, all but the first two rows are straight in Screen 1 (Dolby Cinema), and all but the first row in Screen 2.

As might be expected, Screen 1 roughly follows the conventional screen width-to-seating distance ratios, the rows being ~0.6x to ~1.75x screen width away. In fact, the seating roughly overlays over the OLS' stalls. Good for anyone not wanting to be “overwhelmed,” but certainly not IMAX-style “immersive.”

Screen 2, on the other hand, perhaps surprisingly, features a screen that as drawn is ~85% the size of Screen 1. Screen width-to-seating distance from the screen ratios are ~0.35x to ~1.25x screen width away.

This, in terms of horizontal field of vision fill, is not too far off IMAX spec., or Empire Cinemas' (patented!) schemes for IMPACT and STUDIO auditoria. Depending on projection/sound–alas not Atmos–it may therefore offer a better experience than expected.


I’m afraid to say that a “flat” ratio screen, alas, has been installed in Screen 1. The projection system should render this less of a problem than might be expected–not ideal, but not too bothersome over in the IMAX with Laser across the square.


The main foyer (inc. concessions counter) appears to be about 3,000sq.ft., i.e., a reasonable size.


More to follow…

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CF100 commented about Cineworld Cinema - Watford on Sep 29, 2021 at 3:45 pm

It turns out that IMAX with Laser projection was not installed at Cineworld Leeds, despite the screen size. Instead, Xenon light source IMAX Digital projection is used. The same is true of Cineworld Plymouth–which even features a ~1.4:1 screen.

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CF100 commented about Odeon Luxe London West End on Sep 21, 2021 at 6:53 pm

The cinema isn’t in “the” basement as such-–it’s on levels B3/4, mostly below a large function room on level B2. If this seems pedantic, consider that the floor level of B4 is ~20m below street level!

(On B5/6 are plant rooms and kitchen areas.)

Whilst the cinema (including plant rooms etc.) occupies about half the area of these levels, this is one of the deepest commercial buildings in the world, extending ~30m below ground level. Fortunately for patrons, the incremental cost of including the cinema presumably is ultimately borne by those staying or making use of the hotel’s facilities; in any case, this surely is one of the most, if not the most, expensively (allowing for inflation also) built cinema open to the public per m2 or m3.

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CF100 commented about Odeon West End on Sep 21, 2021 at 12:59 pm

Hard to believe it was 7 years ago, but I still remember the following comment:

“curmudgeon on December 16, 2014 at 8:01 am Disgraceful! More history gone. Bet the proposed basement cinemas never eventuate.”

I replied that it was a planning condition that, in effect, they would. The local authority is Westminster Council, and this is Leicester Square of all places… and so they have.

The following dated 24th March 2020 is listed on Westminster Council’s planning site:

“20/02104/ADFULL | Details of evidence the cinema has been provided with services and made ready for fit out by the relevant tenant [pursuant to planning permission conditions…]

Of course, this does not mean that everyone would consider the eventuated cinema to be any better than no cinema!

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CF100 commented about Odeon Marble Arch on Sep 20, 2021 at 4:19 pm

Similar shape it may well be… but lacking in elegance or proportion.

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CF100 commented about Vue West End on Sep 20, 2021 at 4:04 pm

Ambak: Interesting information! It is odd that the 1970’s conversion was clearly expensive, whilst you state that the lower auditorium was subdivided in “two weeks” by building a wall. I suppose this is a measure of just how rapidly cinema attendance patterns were changing, and an emergent unwillingness to properly invest in exhibition, but why there was not more foresight I find somewhat puzzling.

What, if any, decorative changes did this subdivision involve–or was all simply left “as is” the maximum possible extent? Were 70mm projection facilities still available? (Presumably, if so, in the rear auditorium only?)