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Sorry Brian, it’s my awful typing. Please try this:
The official website for the Loomis' Delevan Drive-In is:
There are some photo’s on the site.
I guess I forgot to mention that Festival Theatres owned both buildings that housed the Revue and Royal. That’s why they had no rent to pay.
Sorry for the confusion.
Unfortunately, the asking price of the monthly rent is way too high for anyone to come close to breaking even. Some of the managers of the festival theatres had hoped to re-open the theatre at a rent less than festival was paying but the owner wants more rent than festival was paying. I’m pretty sure the Kingsway was the biggest grossing of all the theatres but probably not the most profitable — remember they had no rent to pay at the Revue and Royal.
Anyway, let’s hope the rent becomes realistic and you, I, or someone
opens the Kingsway. Have you thought about the Paradise? I know the gross would be very signifcantly less but if the rent were right, the net could be better.
Hi Patsy, sorry no relation. Had written a lot more but for some reason an error occured when I tried to preview it. Too busy to type it again right now, but will comment again soon
I know from hearing only one side of the story (the owners) that there’s some hostility between the city and Alex. Alex maintains that the theatre never made money under his ownership but the whole complex of theatre, stores, apartments and offices makes the building profitable. The city insisted that the P.P.A. tax be paid on all 1500+ seats even though the balcony (rear elevated portion) is roped off. Alex felt this was unjustfied but the city insisted that the only way he could avoid paying the tax on all the seats was to rip out the unused balconey seats. Alex wouldn’t bend and closed the theatre. That’s the owner’s version of why the Patio closed.
Two rumors are circulating about the sale of the Royal.
1. The theatre has been bought by a successful nightclub owner. It
will be turned into a nightclub and eventually condo’s
Let’s hope the second rumor is true. Asking price was $2.7 million and it sold for 2.3 million cdn. You’ve got to sell lots of popcorn to recoup this type of investment. The Festival Theatres will be missed by many Torontotonians.
Before ownership passed to the village, the theatre was owned by the same family that owned (still ownes) the Riviera theatre (closed but still standing) in Geneseo, N.Y. The New Family Theatre looks a little worse everytime I passby. Someone told me a portion of the roof has opened but this might be just be a rumor. I know the village had applied for (granted?) state and federal money to improve Main Street and improving the theatre was part of the village’s official plan.
My notes from 1986, indicate that both theatres were open. I saw “Peggy Sue Got Married” at the Orpheum. My notes indicate the theatre was small, had been twinned, and was rather plain inside. I did not see the inside of the other theatre. I returned to Clarion in 2000, to find both theatres closed, which confirms the statements above.
Before you all rush to the “ebay bidding war” check out the nearby competition. Memory tells me (but I’m not positive) these guys abandoned downtown and built a new facility on the outskirts of town.
I don’t think it was as long as the Uptown’s lobby but it was long. I have both interior and exterior photos of the North Center. It’s seating capacity was certainly scaled down from the proposed 3000 seat venue. The theatre though not plain was no match for many of Chicago’s other theatres.
Yes, the Community theatre is still operating. It has been twinned between the balcony and auditorium. The theatre is owned by the same person that owns the Orpheum in Saugerties. I know the theatre was still for sale just a few months ago. A good portion of the original plaster has been covered over but there’s still a reasonable amount of original detailing still visible. I’ll add more details soon.
The Palace has been gone approximately six or seven years. Where the once majestic theatre complex stood now stands another drug store. Years ago, just outside of downtown a small multi screen (maybe a triplex)theatre opened and the Palace had to resort to second run films at reduced admissions. Just before the Palace closed a mega-plex was built not too far from the “triplex”. This forced both the Palace and the triplex to close their doors. Memory tells me there was a rather grand staircase which you’d imagine led to a balcony. It however, only led to washrooms and the projection area. I was offered the Palace rent free in exchange for paying the taxes on the theatre’s portion of the complex.
The Geitner theatre closed in the early to mid 1980’s. It has a balcony and was, last time I passed by, being used as a dance studio. Just before its closing it reduced admission to $1.00. The Geitner family owned a number of theatres in the western New york area.
The year before the roof collapsed, I saw the Plaza theatre. It had already been forced to close but a sign appeared on the building. “Free to good new owner” or something to that affect. A year the building was gone so I asked the owner of a local restaurant what happened to the theatre. She informed me the roof caved in and the remaining portion of the theatre was demolished by the city. Malone has a fair size population base but no theatre nearby. All you entrepeneurs take note.
I thought about buying this theatre when it was for sale about six or seven years ago. It was a lot of theatre for the money but it also needed big bucks worth of improvements. The air conditioning leaked, and the men’s room looked like something from medieval times. It had already been closed for over a year when I looked at it so I was leary that everything would need to be upgraded to present codes. I remember it being larger than six hundred seats but can’t find my notes to refer to. It did have a nice size balcony. I remember the owner telling me they filled the house once with a “pay per view wrestling program”. Ah! the pre-satallite dish days.
Anyway, glad to see someone is trying to get it open again.
I tried sending the pictures to you a number of times, but all my emails bounced back. Could it be that your isp is rejecting my emails? I have had a problem in the past with some places not liking primus (my server).
If you have any suggestions as to the problem, let me know.
Brian, if you read this, I have the same problem with your email address.
Sorry for the delay in sending the pictures. Please forward your email address and I’ll send the pictures within a day or two after I receive your email address. Everything is scanned in and ready to go.
Judging from the fact Andrew Karzas wrote a paragraph of information about the North Center theatre in its opening day program, an educated conclusion would be that he and borther, William Karzas owned the theatre. In just a few months after they opened their newest theatre, the North Center, they would open their newest and Chicago’s most elaborate ballroom — the Aragon. Approximately two years earlier they had opened Chicago’s Trianon Ballroom.
According to T.H.S. (Theatre Historical Society of America) the Chateau and Vogue are indeed, the same theatre. Another birthday gift included the T.H.S. info package on the Chateau/ Vogue. While there is little printed matter in the info pkg., it does contain a marvelous photo of the theatre building. What a fantastic looking building, lots of “gingerbread”. The building also contained a bowling alley. Although a copy of a printed program dated 1927, shows a sketch of the Chateau’s huge vertical with the name Ascher’s perpendicular to the sinage “Chateau” a photograph of just a slightly later vintage shows “Ascher’s” was replaced by “Trinz’s”. Probably, no doubt the theatre was purchased by the Lubliner& Trinz chain. The theatre seated 1683.
One of my birthday presents was a North Center theatre information package from the T.H.S. (Theatre Historical Society of America). Although the package doesn’t contain a lot of information, it does reveal the architect was Walter W. Ahlschlager. He designed some outstanding buildings in many major U. S. cities. His theatres can’t be over shadowed by anyone, even those built by Rapp and Rapp. Ahlschlager designed New York’s Roxy, Beacon and many others including my neighborhood theatre, the North Center. An excellent exterior photo of the theatre was also included in the info package.
Sorry for the omitted words, I guess I hit submit instead of preview. Anyway, the manager gave me the grand tour and not “gave me got the grand tour”. Another sentence should read: “Although this is the most recent theatre that I’ve viewed”, not “ … . . the most theatre that I’ve viewed”. It was far from that.
To infocats: Sorry, you need to go only to Catskill, N.Y. to find a theatre of “substance”. It’s 1500 sq. ft. stage is over 12% of the entire Fleischmanns' complex. It’s also for sale and I’ll be writing it up shortly. Anyway, good luck and I hope you get your asking price.
I only recently discovered this theatre and got to see the inside only through a fluke. I got some of the theatre’s history from the coin shop operator which occupies one of the store fronts in the theatre building. Just before I left Clearfield, I took a picture of the marquee from across the street. While taking the pictures someone standing under the marquee started waving to me. It turned out he was the manager and he gave me got the grand tour. I also got to view some vintage photo’s of the theatre. Although this is the most theatre that I’ve viewed, I’ve still got lots more to submit. So suffer you will!
The name of the other theatre in Philipsburg is the Majestic. It was a furniture store for a period of time but, I believe, it is now empty.
Roger, what do you think? It’s your part of the country.