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I have been reading the many posts about the
preservation or not in NYC of grand old movie
theaters. San Francisco is in the same boat. none
of the grand old movie theaters built as first run
theaters during the golden age of such construction
survive as movie theaters first run or revival.
the Castro doesn’t quite fit the description since
it was built from the get go as a second or third
run neighborhood theater.
now in the discussion of the non-preservation of
grand old movie houses the Roxy has often been
brought up. when i started going into Manhattan
on my own i was able to catch the Criterion,Loews
State,DeMille,Warner, Rivoli and the Loews Capitol
in their more or less original condition. the Roxy
unfortunately was torn down June/July 1960? so
i wasn’t able to see its wonders. to which a
question for historians of the Roxy- when was it
decided to tear down the theater? i can’t imagine
is was decided on the weekend of the demolition.
i’m guessing the decision was made years before.
also another point about the preservation or not
of grand old movie theaters. the six Times Square
movie theaters mentioned above as i knew them were
large but the Roxy was as it was often described
a cathedral. so isn’t the reason it and the also
cathedral like Fox on Market St. in San Francisco
were torn down wasn’t because no one liked the
architecture or the projection and sound but
because movie theaters that big by the late 50s
had become point blank economically unviable as
single screen movie theaters? i look forward to
my fellow posters thoughts on the subject.
to techman707- just wanted to say Hello and hope that
some day real soon you will find a
photo of the triplexed "DeMille" with
Mark 1/2/3 actually on the marquee. as
i said i often went there after the
tri-plexing and never remember seeing
it on the marquee.
one new question. for the past several
years the huge sign that wraps around
the building has advertised Broadway
shows. now what was the last film to
play the "DeMille" that used the
wrap around sign?
i don’t mind slow paced films. A SINGLE MAN(2009)
with Colin Firth was slow placed but wasn’t boring
for a second. my point being there’s big difference
between slow paced films and just plain boring ones.
isn’t the theater’s “warning” sign an admission
on their part that the film is an incoherent boring piece of cinematic claptrap?
Hello to Techman707-
i was wondering if you’ve located a photo of the
front of the theater when Mark1/2/3 was actually
on the marquee yet. as said i went to the theater
often enough after it was tri-plexed so i should
have come across Mark ½/3 on the marquee on at
least one or two occasions. but i simply don’t
recollect it. hopefully you have found a photo.
i was wondering if you have come across
a photo of the theater front with Mark 1,2,3
actually on the marquee. as you have said this
was done right after the theater closed as the
single screen DeMille and was tri-plexed. as i
have likewise said i often went to the theater
right after it was tri-plexed but quite
honestly never remember taking note of Mark
1,2,3 being on the marquee.
thanks to Al A. for his learned assessment
on the subject. in fact your reply prompts
an additional question on my part. as i
understand it the golden age of movie palace
building was approx. 1910 thru say 1941?
now of all those theaters it would be interesting to find out of the three reasons
listed below percentage wise which caused the
most movie theaters to close.
b)t.v. sucking the life out of the movie biz
c)the neighborhood “changing”
again i thank Techman707 for his inside info
as to the ownership etc….. of the theater.
but i do have one additional question. as i have said i have been a frequent visitor to
the Times Square area for virtually my entire adult life and would out of habit notice
different signage from the previous
visit. so during what period of time did the marque actually have Mark 1,2,3 on it?
certainly a quite attractive theater at least
the exterior. one simple question- the theater
closed in 1933 long before the advent of television which sucked the life out of the
movie business or the “changing” of the
neighborhood. so why did it close after only
i know 20th Century Fox’s THE BLUE MAX had its
premiere exclusive NYC engagement at the Sutton
and a souvenir program was sold in the lobby.
but there seems to be some debate as to whether
is was a traditional two show a day roadshow
engagement or a continuous performance engagement as they were called in the day. so which was it? the fact a souvenir program was
sold would leave me to believe it was a
traditional 2 show a day roadshow engagement.
its my understanding that back in the day it
was highly unusual for continuous performance engagements even exclusive in one theater to
have a souvenir program no matter how “big”
the film was.
i thank Techman707 for the inside info. two
new-ish questions. your additional thoughts
are appreciated. many thanks in advance.
i agree with you that the Demille suffered
the worst tri-plexing ever of a former movie
palace. but would you have any info as to
why since it was in such horrid condition it
was never closed for building or health
violations previous to its actual closing?
also as i have said i have been to the Times
Square area for either films or Broadway
shows for virtually my entire adult so i would
notice signage that was different from my
previous visit.i know when the theater
was tri-plexed the new operators were thinking
of renaming it the Mark 1,2,3 but did the
name ever actually make it on the marquee?
if it did actually make it onto the marquee
it most have lasted like a day.
to Tinseltoes- you have been most hopeful with
previous questions so here goes with a new one.
as you stated above THE ALAMO moved from its
Todd-AO roadshow run of many months at the
Rivoli to a continuous performance run at
popular prices at the Astor in May of 1961.
but the ads for this engagement made no note
of the fact the print was 25 mins. shorter
than the roadshow Todd-AO print. therein lies
mu question. after a Cinerama roadshow engagement of many months at the Warner Theater
THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD moved to a
popular price continuous performance run at
the Astor. what was the running time of the
continuous performance print as opposed to
the roadshow print? also it obviously wasn’t
in Cinerama so what was the Astor run
advertised as being in? many thanks in advance.
i’m asking a question i asked several months
ago and would appreciate it if my fellow
posters have any additional info/thoughts on
the matter. during Oct.1955 thru Dec.1972 seven
large grand old movies were used as roadshow
houses by the studios-Criterion, Loews State,
RKO Palace, DeMille, Warner, Rivoli and the
Loews Capitol. now the Palace was originally
built as a stage theater so my question will
pertain to the other six. the Criterion was in
fairly decent shape after a redo by United
Artists theaters before being gutted for the
Toys R' Us. the Loews State which had been
twinned in 1968 was in fairly decent shape
before the building which housed it was torn
down. the Warner which had been tri-plexed
in 1967? was still in fairly decent shape
before the building which housed it was torn down. this was also the case with the Rivoli
which had been twinned and the Loews Capitol
which wasn’t. so here’s my question- who the
hell owned/operated/managed the Embassy1,2,3
before it closed for good? in contrast to
the other five theaters just noted the Embassy
1,2,3 was in absolutely horrid shape. this
was especially true not only of the 3
auditoriums but the men’s rooms on both the
orchestra and mezzanine/balcony level. i can’t
believe the theater hadn’t already closed
because of building or health code violations.
to either see a new film at one of the
large movie theaters or a Broadway show i
have been a frequent visitor to the Times
Square area most of my adult life. to which
my question- i don’t remember the former
Mayfair/DeMille ever having The Mark as its
name on the marquee. so i’m guessing it
was a proposed name change that never made
it to the marquee.
i find the photo posted by jflundy on
1/5/08 most interesting. first off it was
neat to see the theater with a big ornate
old fashion marquee. but what i find most
fascinating is that date given for the.
photo 6/23/29. unless NYC widened Houston
St. subsequent to the photo being taken
the street in front of the theater is
wayyyyyyyyyyyy to narrow to be Houston
Street. is it at all possible that the
photo is not of the Sunshine Cinema that
as with older buildings in NYC i can’t help but wonder if the fire was a “business fire” as they are called.. many times even if an older building is in perfectly good shape the land the theater is on is even more valuable than the historical and or architectural aspect of the building.
i live in New York City and visited London in August of 1972. i attended an showing of “Nicholas and Alexandria” at this theater. it was the first movie theater i had seen with a coffee bar and cafe rather than just a concession stand selling soda and popcorn.
speaking of “Darling Lili”. aside from the quality of the film
as a whole it does contain two of the best musical sequences ever-
“Whistling Away The Dark” and “I’ll Give You Three Guesses”.
do any of my fellow posters know of a say 2 maybe 3 websites that
sell movie souvenir programs? of course there’s EBay but
i don’t want to bid and wait i just find to buy them outright.
was the Harris/Candler Theater torn down because it was in
such condition that it was unrepairable or because no one wanted
to spend the time and money to properly renovate it as they did with the New Amsterdam?
i have no complaint about the projection or sound in the
theaters but the men’s rooms at the Empire 25 like the men’s
rooms in most multiplexes are quite unevenly maintained.
whenever i mentioned there’s a problem they don’t seem to
give a damn. i guess most multiplex managers don’t think
maintaining a clean well kept men’s room is very important.
while this theater has been in the forefront of showing indie
films for almost 50 years they screwed up royally when they
did a modernizing/tri-plexing in 1999. the only rest room is
in the lower level and is simply to damn small for three
screens. for instance the men’s room has only one stall so
you’re stuck if there’s a long line. i should think when they
“renovated” the theater they should have said “hey we need a
larger men’s rest room”. this has got to be the smallest men's
room in any movie theater in NYC.
i wish to correct an earlier post in which a fellow poster
stated that although the Coronet played many an exclusive
engagement in its long storied career it never had a reserved
seat or to use the trade term roadshow film engagement. it
did. THE TAMING OF THE SHREW directed by Franco Zefferelli and
starring Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton opened at the
Coronet on a reserved seat engagement. the spring of 1967 if
i’m not mistaken.
i thank brucec for his reply. but i am intrigued by your
comment-“Radio City was stuck with product like The Happiest
Millionaire and was locked out of getting better product”. one
question. how was Radio City “stuck” with the film? films
ran just so long at the Music Hall to begin with so how could
one film not being a box office hit effect the Music Hall's
over all financial well being? also how did booking THM for the
Thanksgiving 1967 period prevent the Music Hall from booking
“better product” when THM’s run ended? hear from you soon.
i thank Michael C. for the info.one of course should never assume
things but i always assumed that THE HAPPIEST MILLIONAIRE’s roadshow
run at the Pantages was a disappointment. i based this assumption
on the fact the film didn’t open in NYC till like 5 months later
with no intermission, 25mins. cut out and on a non-roadshow basis.
but an almost 7 month roadshow run at the Pantages seems decent
enough so i wonder why Disney chose to release it in NYC the way