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EcRocker commented about Capitol Theatre on Mar 17, 2009 at 7:32 am

Movie I am sure that Q104 is going to do some sort of Woodstock tribute just so they can feel like they are the happening station.However I wonder if their archives are anything that WNEW FM would have compiled. Also in case you were not aware the Montauk is presently closed. Word has it that Passaic want to demolish it olong with the hotel next door. Besides the last movies shown in there were pornos. I guess it has something in common with the Capitol.

Al your last line reminded me of a line from a song by Don Henley.

Out on the road today
I saw a dead head sticker on a cadillac
a voice inside my head said don’t look back
you can never look back.

Michael

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EcRocker commented about Capitol Theatre on Mar 16, 2009 at 1:22 am

For a minute I thought you were talking to your self when I saw your message twice.
I think you put it very well. The “G” word not only effected the music industry but hit many others. How about some actor or actress getting $20 millionn to star in a movie that may take 2-3 months to complete and when it does make it’s run it only lasts a few weeks then weeks or a few months later on DVD. Some of the highest cost of making these movies is paying the cast and we wind up paying for it at the box office. I know there are millionds of people who will never see $20 Million in their life time. Maybe not even $2 Million
Now the “G” word rears it’s ugly head in sports. Most team sports with the exception of Major league Baseball has salary caps. Even still the multi million dollar salaries are ridiculous.

I was thinking about days gone by and realized that this coming Aug will mark the 40 years since Woodstock. I was only 60 miles away from there in 1969 but I would have gotten hell from the parents if I went off. Oh how i wish I could have been there. All these tribute concerts held for Woodstock have taken away the true meaning of what Woodstock was all about. Even John Scher was involved in at least one of the.

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EcRocker commented about Capitol Theatre on Mar 14, 2009 at 7:57 pm

Gone also are the days when a band would pull up to a show in a U-haul or some other named rental truck and set up on stage. The house would provide the sound and lights. Then came the all in one tours where the bands would show up with a tractor trailer full of band gear sound and light gear. From there it just expanded. Now you got to more trucks more trailers. Some to the point where bands doiong stadium tours had lep frogging systems. For those of you who do not understand it is when you have a band playing with such an elaborate staging sound and light system it would take not hours but some times days to set up and tear down for a show that may last 2 hours. So while for example Pink Flyod was playing in Giant Stadium with the staging, sound and light system another unit would be setting up at another venu. Some of thes shows had as many as 20 tractor trailers if not more. When major bands started doing the full size trailer thing for shows at places like the Capitol it also made finding space to park them a major pain in the ass. The Capitol stage was not very deep and in most cases anything that was notneeded to be used for the show such as road cases got tossed back out the door. Rock tours became a monster. The more stuff they hauled around meant more people to pay and so on down the line. That is why we may never see ticket prices as low as $3.50-$5.50 agin in this lifte time.
As for bands using rental trucks it is still hpaening. When you see a band that was big 35 years ago doing small clubs is because they need the money and are not big enough to be out touring major venues. Most of the bands only hae maybe one original member and can not draw the big money as if it were the original band.

Case in point. Back in the 90’s Black oak Arkansas was playing a local club in NJ. It had 3 original members in the band including Jim “Dandy” Mangrum. They were touring in some beat up conversion tour bus. They were doing so bad that they asked the club owner for an advance so they could buy fuel for the bus. Long gone were the days they would be hauling 3-4 trailers. Long gone were the days of playing 2500-3500 seat theatres. Long gone also are the days they would be playing stadiums and festivals with 50,000 people or more.

For those of us that lived it most of us will always treasure it. For those whi didn’t oh well you missed out on something.

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EcRocker commented about Lincoln Theatre on Mar 14, 2009 at 5:49 pm

The snow on the ground must have been close to the time Obama called the DC Board of Ed whips for closing the schools. Being raised in NYC Obama was funny but right. In NYC schools would be open unless there was at least a foot or more of snow on the ground.

As to the picture the snow and the wet streets gives it a nice feel.

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EcRocker commented about Ritz Theatre on Mar 14, 2009 at 5:45 pm

There was another good summer venue in NYC as well. Galic Park in the Bronx. How ever their were to many neighborhood complaints such as noise and crowds that put an end to that. Where as the Wollman Rink was a bit more regulation restrictive was also a great place to see a show. The downfal was when the city claimed that the main surface for the rink had some major cracks and was in need of repair and the city was getting screwed over by contractors asking way to much and to much time. Donald Trump stepped in and took it over and came in under budget and under time. When the rink was completed i remember the city making excuses as why they were no longer interested in using it as a concert venue. One was that they were afraid that all the weitght from the people sitting on the rink floor would cause major damage and crack the concrete and pipes. The city also claimed that it was costing to much in OT for the extra police detail primarily used during and after the show. To much crap as far as i was concerned and it forced the event to move to another location. It was never the same and eventually ended. BTW it was Reingold Beer not Budweiser

Here is a copy and paste from Wiki

The Rink has been used as the venue for several summer concerts. The first annual summer music festival at there was sponsored by Rheingold beer company and opened on July 1, 1966. The Rheingold Central Park Music Festival also took place during the summer of 1967.[1] The first annual Schaefer Music Festival opened on June 27, 1968 and ran each summer through 1976.[1] The first annual Dr. Pepper Music Festival opened on July 6, 1977 and ran annually through the summer of 1980 (the 15th, and last annual music festival held at the Wollman Rink).[1]

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EcRocker commented about Ritz Theatre on Mar 11, 2009 at 12:04 am

Didn’t Jimi also play the Forest Hills Tennis Stadium? He opened for the Monkeys.

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EcRocker commented about Ridgewood Theatre on Mar 7, 2009 at 2:14 pm

When you talk about the distributors there is also something that flies under the radar.When a multiplex gets a movie not all of them go at the same cost. Here is how the public gets screwed again. I am sure the big chain multiplexes get a better rate then the smaller ones but here is what happens. Using a duplex to make it easier to explane. They get 2 different movies in at the same time. The licensing cost for one of them is half the cost of the other one. Get the picture? Rather then charging less for the lower cost movie they charge the same for both of them. They use the one price fits all even though they are paying less for the one. They already rip you off enough at the snack bars butthen again they have been doing that for years.
I still think that Ridgewood has a chance to make a come back as a single screen premier house. There is nothing like seeing a movies with 1900 of your closest friends.

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EcRocker commented about Ritz Theatre on Mar 5, 2009 at 2:34 pm

Movie your right. Something like Woodstock will never happen again but the promoters did antisapate a crowd of up to about 150,000 people. What they werent expecting was the other 350,000 or more people that showed up. Considering there was no such thing as the internet and Ticketron was not even in the picture at that point ticket sales were done through a series of outlet stores. Also it was a general admision so that meant where you wound up is where you wound up. However some of the unknown bands cought a big break up there and some of them eventualy had a chance to play at the Ritz. I had to toss that in here to get this back on topic.

But also long gone are the days of going to a show and seeing 2-3 top bands on the same stage for under $5 especialy in 2000-4000 seat theatres. The Ritz was a good example of that. It also gave the residents of Staten Island a place they could call their own and not have to pay to get off the island. Staten Island has always been sort of isolated from the rest of the city. The Ritz at the time was the Fillmore East of Staten island. That was up until the Pagans MC nearly cause a riot out side the Ritz at a Badfinger concert.

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EcRocker commented about Waldorf 301 Drive-In on Mar 2, 2009 at 9:26 pm

Does anyone know where it was exactly? There are many shopping centers and a mall down here.

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EcRocker commented about Rockville Centre Cinema on Mar 2, 2009 at 9:04 pm

I am sorry to see that this theatre is closed. I would take my GF there after going to Time Piece Cafe for dinner. I seem to recall it was always busy on Fri and Sat nights. I would try to time dinner with enough time to eat and not have to rush for the movie. I liked it because you could not only see the movies but hear them as well. If I had seen the movie playing there I would go to the Green Acres or Sunrise multiplex that was before they put the airport metal detectors in there.

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EcRocker commented about UA Duffield Twin Theatre on Mar 2, 2009 at 8:46 pm

Thanks Sap The Rockivlle was the one. Did a google map street view and it shows a for sale sign on it.. At least when i went there you couild not only see but hear the movie without hearing commentaries all through it.

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EcRocker commented about Ritz Theatre on Mar 2, 2009 at 8:23 pm

I knew Gus Ungano and they ran a gas station down the street form the Ritz. They hired someone to book the bands but took the credit for them I am not sure if the brothers had any more shows after the problem with the Pagans when Badfinger played there. Oh man what a night that was. That was a night I will not forget. Hundreds of people were scared shitless including the police.

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EcRocker commented about UA Duffield Twin Theatre on Mar 2, 2009 at 2:30 pm

Hi Saps no this was a few miles east of the GA 5plex. It was also on the southe side of Sunrise Highway

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EcRocker commented about UA Duffield Twin Theatre on Mar 1, 2009 at 11:47 pm

Things were going bad in areas like that long before New Jack City came out. Long before that in Valley Stream LI there was the Sunrise Drive in. It was demolished and the Sunrise Multiplex was built. Sometimes when my GF and I used to go out we would oft times go see a movie there after dinner when this other theatre we used to go to didn’t have something we wanted to see. In the very begining the Sunrise was not so bad. But if you know where it is what comes next is not to much of a surpise. Since it is near the Queens county border the residents would walk drive to get to there. It was not the best of neighborhoods and most of them came there and were very disorderly. yelling screaming cutting lines. I stopped going there when the comentary in the theatre was louder then the movie it self. After some incidents took place including a couple of guns going off in there Airport type metal screening detectors were installed at the main entry ways. The Queens locals balked but who wants to see a movie where someone may have a gun or knife on them. Basical the same kind of crowd like the Duffer. I never thought I would see the day when going to a movie was like checking in at an airpot. It got so bad for a while the managment had to take on off duty Nassau County cops to augment the private security because it was legal for them to carry a weapon where the private guys were non carry. All they had were batons and cuffs.

Does anyone remember a theatre about 5 miles east of there on Sunrise? It was a single that was cut to a duplex. It was either a Loews or a Century

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EcRocker commented about UA Duffield Twin Theatre on Mar 1, 2009 at 6:54 am

Hey Greenpoint I had attended a few movies at the old Duff. I had a pass from the district manager from UA who was running it at the time. I heard the news of the shooting on the 11 PM news on Ch 7. Fulton Street is not anything like ti was when my mom would drag me shopping at Mays, EJ Korvettes and A&S. Least we forget the good old Dimes Savings Bank of Brooklyn.

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EcRocker commented about Kent Theatre on Feb 28, 2009 at 3:17 am

Could be that there is a multiplex not to far from it and they are having a hard time making it with only showing one current run a week. It says on the web site they are trying to get a synching platter system so that they can run more then one move a week. I guess they can have 2 movies and alternate the show times. I would love to see a little place like this.

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EcRocker commented about Kent Theatre on Feb 27, 2009 at 8:07 pm

It’s a shame that even a 225 seat theatre is having hard times making it.

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EcRocker commented about Loew's Oriental Theatre on Feb 27, 2009 at 4:49 pm

LOL I doubt it very much. There are 10 other listings for Orientals listed. Four are demolished . 3 listed as open and the rest closed. There was even one located in Hong Kong. Demolished in 1981.

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EcRocker commented about Kent Theatre on Feb 27, 2009 at 3:32 pm

I went to the official web site and saw the following:

FOR SALE:

The Kent Theatre is for sale!

For more information about this unique opportunity, please contact the owner at (951) 674-1159 or , the theatre at (260) 723-5231 or Bob Koontz at (260) 609-6667. Please, serious inquiries only.

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EcRocker commented about Kent Theatre on Feb 27, 2009 at 3:29 pm

You da man Lost. Now if you can only find some pictures of the NY Academy of Music. I have been looking all over the web and there is hardly a thing. And here I thought this was a Kent theatre update in Brooklyn. LOL

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EcRocker commented about RKO Madison Theatre on Feb 27, 2009 at 3:26 pm

LOL Peter I was thinking more of going to a turntable with a piece of slate and use a parrot beak to etch on it like on the Flintstones.

We all have to lighten up in here. We all have our passions for what CT is here for. Living in Brooklyn for most of my life I have been in a good deal of the theatres where I have posted. I never got to see the Madison while it was functioning as a Movie Palcae but I was in there right after it was closed and was in awww from the site of such a place. However my tour was short lived after i was spotted by a doberman and wound up in a bathroom just above the marquee. I posted about this once before. Oh if could have been saved.

Well I just came home and made sure I bought my Mega Millios Lotto ticket and hope to wake up tomorrow as the winner of $185 Million. I could think of some real easte I could probobly pick up cheap but the resoration would be something else. It’s really funny when you look or think about it. It took $25 Million to restore Fords Theatre in DC which is ½ the size of the Paradise $25 million and Paradise was in really bad shape. Then there is the $15 Million for Beacon. I have seen pictures of the Kings and I highly doubt that $25 million would be enough to bring it back. Meanwhile there is trouble in Paradise and no onne knows if and when it will reopen.

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EcRocker commented about Loew's Oriental Theatre on Feb 27, 2009 at 3:03 pm

I am also a home bred Brooklyn boy and Seeing the Oriental back in 2004 which was the last time I was up there made me want to break down and cry before heading back to Maryland. So many of these fine palaces have been either converted to retail, demolished or in the case of the Lowes Kings, Shore an even Ridgewood sitting empty and decaying.

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EcRocker commented about RKO Madison Theatre on Feb 27, 2009 at 12:29 pm

Grrrrrr ok now that is twice I have tried to post in here and twice it said I was logged in before I have submitted and was again told to log in. This goes to one of the points I mention below about flaws with CT. Good thing I know how to Copy and Paste.

Hey Bob CT and any other site were people come together and post tend to go off topic. Just like any other conversations be it on the internet or real life. I mean from what I have seen from the last few posts in here had absolutely nothing to do with The Madison or any other theatre. I have heard other people say the same thing you have about checking several pages on this site because of the extreme amount of non-theater related posts.

I don’t know why Warren said what he said. The only problem I have ever had with him not personally was that some of his older photobucket links were no longer active and when it was brought up he found the links spoken about and posted new active links to them. I guess everyone has a right to blow off some steam at times.

This is a really great site sespite some of the flaws such as getting e-mails saying someone has responed to your post and it sends an e-mail to everyone in that group even if the response is not to you. Today I received about 16 e-mails and only one of them was a reply to my posting.

But hey this post has got nothing to do with theatres either so maybe I should shoot my hard drive for going off topic. Bad hard drive bad bad. Take that and that and lol.

Have a nice day to all.

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EcRocker commented about Ridgewood Theatre on Feb 27, 2009 at 11:31 am

Yeah the economics really suck and it is also urged on by greed.Each theatre pays a fee for the showing of the films. The movie companies in turn get a percentage. Up until the time the Platter system evolved the multiplexes used to have to get individual copies of one film if they planed to show it in more than one room at a time a fee for each. Now all they do is get one copy of the film and can show it in 1 or how ever many rooms they have meaning they only pay the fee for one.
What needs to happen is that when a major film come in to a metro are it should only be released to a single screen house for the first 2 weeks and then distributed to the multiplexes.
That can be something to think about with Ridgewood. Convert it back to a sibgle screen and make it a “Premier” first run house for both Brooklyn and Queens. A deal should be struck with the major studios. Call it going back to the future.

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EcRocker commented about Beacon Theatre reopens after $16 million restoration on Feb 26, 2009 at 8:50 pm

Bob in answer to the question on the “Mighty Wurlitzer”. According to the secratery of the NYTOS who I just spoke to a few weeks ago the organ is still alive and well. The only bad new is that Melvin Robinson the man who used to maitain it passed away2-3 years ago. I am sure there is someone else maintaining it now. Mel worked on many of the Theate Organs in NYC and surrounding areas.

Now while I am here I would like a clarification on something. The NY Times says the restoration cost $16 Million but when you go to Beacon home page it says $15 Million. Who is correct?