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from reading the intro on the theaters CT’s page
and reading the Guardian article i am unsure about
a)if the Eden was built from the ground up as a
cinema or b)it was an already exiting theater
building that was used by the Lumiere Bros. to
exhibit their films. if its b) that what is the
world’s oldest still existing cinema build from
the ground up as a cinema?
Hello From NYC-
this a question I asked sometime ago so I would
appreciate any further info my fellow posters might
have. the building boom period for grand old movie
theaters/palaces was approx. 1914-1941. now many
of the theaters built during this period are alive
and well and have been in continual operation since
the day they opened- the Castro Theater in San
Francisco as an example. but that theater was built
from the get go as a 2nd/3rd run neighborhood
theater. which brings me to the Chinese. I have
been browsing this website to see how many such
theaters I could find that opened from the get go
as 1st run venues and have continued to operate as
such since the day they opened. the only one I have
found so far is the Chinese. is it really possible
that of all the grand old movie theaters/palaces
built in the boom period of 1914-1941 from the get
go as 1st run venues the Chinese is the only one in
continual operation as such since the day is opened?
i saw Gravity in the IMAX Theater this past Sat.
at the 11:15 a.m. show and thoroughly enjoyed the
sites and sounds of the film. so my question has
to do with the theater itself. I am a frequent
patron at the Lincoln Square’s regular theaters.
now the last time I was in the IMAX theater was
February of 2000 when they debuted Disney’s
Fantasia 2000. I won’t bet my next paycheck but
I am like 99.9% sure that at that visit Fantasia
2000 occupied the entire screen. yet while
watching Gravity only the middle say 60% of the
screen was being used. now I didn’t take a ruler
and measure but the amount of the screen the
film occupied seemed no bigger than the screen of
the main Loew’s auditorium downstairs or the one
at the Zeigfeld. so since it didn’t occupy the
entire screen how is it IMAX?
i will be seeing Gravity tomorrow at the
Loew’s Lincoln Square IMAX auditorium which
has reserved seating. when i purchased my
ticket and the screen comes up with the seating
plan i noticed all the seats in the middle
had been taken which was fine by me. i’m tall
and have no idea what the leg room space is
between seats. i chose an aisle seat on the
right with no seat in front of it which is
great since i have long legs. in terms of
overall size if the Lincoln Square screen is
a 10 what’s the Chinese screen?
also do theaters in L.A. still have the
discount before 5p.m. they still did when
i was last out in Spring 2004. all AMC
theaters have a discount before 12p.m. on
weekends so i got that discount plus a
senior discount so the ticket cost $15.
thanks for the info about the price for a 3-D IMAX
film at Lincoln Square. most good old regular 2-D
films aren’t worth the price theaters in Manhattan
are asking so I doubt the vast majority of 3-D IMAX
films are worth the hyped up price. “Avatar” released
Dec. of 2009 was the juggernaut for the current
stampede of 3-D films. here’s the kicker- since
“Avatar” countless 3-D films have been released
and in a grand total of exactly 2 count ‘em two films
has the 3-D actually furthed the storytelling
process- “Hugo” and “Life of Pi”.
I read in one of the first comments posted after the
theater re-opened that the people showing you to
your seats were a bit overwhelmed by the crowd. what’s
wrong with the good old fashioned first come first
served policy? good old regular 2-D movies are
rather expensive at least in Manhattan. 3-d films are
are that much more expensive and IMAX 3-D films are
additionally more expensive. so no matter how good
the film might be are reserved seat IMAX 3-D films
really worth what i’m guessing is a really expensive
how much are reserved seats for a 3-D IMAX filmat Lincoln Square?
aside from the hoopla about the Chinese re-opening
has there been much talk in the press about the 3-D
IMAX The Wizard of Oz? the film opened last Fri.9/20
at 2 of the 3 IMAX screens in Manhattan with no
as I said in my last post I haven’t been out to
L.A. in approx. 7 years so i’m intrigued by the
comments on 3-D films at the Cinerama Dome. to
which my question-what essentially is the problem?
is the large curved screen not optimum for
showing films in 3-D or are the films just not
shown correctly? when Arclight built its multiplex
adjacent to the Dome didn’t they fully restore
the Dome as well?
I haven’t been out to L.A. in approx. 7 years so
though this question might be silly to ask at this
point i’ll ask it anyway. I am assuming the reason
the new owners of the Chinese went thru the time
and expense of IMAX-ing the Chinese’s auditorium
is that there are no other IMAX theaters anywhere
close to the Chinese.
Hello to Al A.–
as always thank for the info. i have another
question that i find just as fascinating. my
parents took me to see the roadshow engagements
of both The Wonderful World of the Brothers
Grimm and How The West Was Won at this theater.
i always assumed they had healthy roadshow
runs. to which i was quite surprised to find out
TWWOTBG’s lasted only 33 weeks and HTWWW’s lasted
only 39 weeks. i can see MGM having to pull
TWWOTBG even if it was still doing good box
office to open HTWWW. but why was HTWWW pulled
after only 39 weeks? the roadshow run of HTWWW
in both L.A.and San Francisco lasted a lot
longer than 39 weeks if i am not mistaken. so
I second Chris U.’s comment. its a rather unobstrusive
sign that i’m betting most people won’t notice.
i knew Liz and Dick did not attend the premiere
at this theater but i had not known there was a
protest by an African-American church in Harlem
for casting a white actress in the title role.
the interesting part of that protest is simple-
regardless of what Cleopatra looked like physically
ethnically/culturally she was like 99% Greek.
to Bill H.–
thanks for your reply. five seconds after clicking
on add comment it dawned on me that as well as the
film was still doing MGM had to pull it to open
their big year end “in Cinerama” film Ice Station
Zebra. so while it may not have been “in Cinerama”
or on a 2 a day roadshow policy did the film at
least move to another theater for an exclusive
run in 70MM? the reason i ask is simple.
The Sound of Music ran at the Rivoli on a 2 a day
roadshow policy in Todd-AO from i believe the first
week of March 1965 to the last week of Sept. 1966.
normally it would have then gone to the prominent
theaters in the other boroughs that traditionally
played 20th Century Fox Films after their big 1st
runs in Manhattan. but that didn’t happen. the
film then moved to the Cinema Rendevous on 57th St.
on a continuous performance policy of 3 shows a day
and played there i believe 6 months.
I was fortunate to have seen 2001: A Space Odyssey
twice at this theater during its 2 a day “in Cinerama”
roadshow engagement. I believe said engagement lasted
on 24 weeks due to the Capitol closing prior to
demolition. but the exact same engagement moved 4
blocks south to the Warmer Cinerama where it ran
another 13 weeks. the reason I bring this up is
simple. when I found this out rather recently I
was shocked that the film’s Manhattan roadshow run
was only 37 weeks. compare this to the 2 a day roadshow
engagement at the Warner in Hollywood which lasted
103 weeks and the 2 a day roadshow run at the Golden
Gate in San Francisco which lasted I believe 72 weeks.
and does one explain that?
i was saddened to hear of the theater’s closing.i believe that leaves the Bay Plaza as the onlymovie theater in the Bronx.
but i don’t understand as a Bow Tie spokesperson
said in the News 12 video that he lease can’t be
renewed? it not like the building was something
else previously and the owner wanted to return it
to its original use. it was built as a movie
theater. so i assume we’re dealing with a typical
greedy NY landlord.
Hello from NYC-
I haven’t been out to L.A. in a few years and
did enjoy going to the Chinese. to which my
question- with all the hoopla about the IMAX-ing
of the auditorium while keeping the renowned
architectural design as anyone heard anything
about the 3-D…ing of The Wizard of Oz. if
the retrofit into 3-D of the 1939 film just
doesn’t work that won’t be a good omen for the
i thank you for your help with my previous
questions. in fact you have a detailed knowledge
of this particular theater. to which my new
two part question.
*on page 4 of the photo gallery is an ad for
“Frankenstein” and “Sitting Bull”. so was the
ad for the 1931 horror classic for the original
1st run engagement or a subsequent 2nd run.
also it seems the big grand old movie theaters
of Times Square played as many B movies as they
did A movies. to which i’m guessing the western
about one of the most prominent Native
Ameericans was considered a B movie.
*on the last page of the photo gallery is
a pic of the marquee during the roadshow
engagement of “The Shoes of the Fisherman”
which i believe opened Nov. of 1968. now
the side of the marquee has the title in
the typeface used in the ads with a collage
of the major characters in the film. yet
on the front of the marquee the title is
spelled out in plain ordinary block
letters. wasn’t kind of tacky for a
the last film I saw at this theater before it closed
was “Living Out Loud” with Holly Hunter and Queen
Latifah. i’m 99.9% sure it was in the downstairs
auditorium. to which my question- what was the last
film to play here when it was still a single screen
theater at which point i believe it was still called
I liked going to the Cinema Studio since it played
many prominent low budget indie American films and
top foreign language films. a two part question-
1.i’m guessing that the theater(and the surrounding
buildings)were torn down because eventhough the
theater was quite popular the land underneath it
became worth more than the theater could ever
bring in at the box office.
2.as stated by Al A. it opened as the Arcade in
1919. i’m guessing it opened from the get go as
a 2nd/3rd run neighborhood theater. so when
did it become a 1st run venue? when it became
the Cinema Studio?
I have to be frank and say i find much of the
tech numbers mentioned a bit confusing. admittedly
i’m no techno wiz. to which what I hope is a
simple question- when the 3-D TWOO opens the end
of Sept. will they be able to mask the screen
so all we see is the movie? whatever the dimensions
of a screen it drives me up a ****** wall when
it is not properly masked and you see unused
screen on the top, bottom or sides.
I suppose we shall have to wait and see. I have found
the discussion of the Chinese' new IMAX installation
fascinating to say the least. it kind of resembles
my opinion of the IMAX screens in Manhattan. the only
real or true IMAX screen is the one at the Loew’s
Lincoln Square on Bway and 68th St. the other IMAX
screens in Manhattan are not quite so.
i’m sorry to hear of the theater being gutted
by fire especially since the structure could have
been renovated and saved. as we say in NYC i bet
it was “a business fire”. whenever an historic
renovatable building in NYC is gutted by fire
that always my guess as to what happened.
I would like someone to explain to me how they
can successfully to a 3-D retrofit for a film released