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bigjoe59 commented about AMC Lincoln Square 13 on May 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Hello-

i saw TITANIC in Imax 3-D at the 34 St.Multiplex. it was shown without an intermission which it never had. why would the Lincoln Square show it with an intermission?

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 30, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Hello To My Fellow Posters-

2 new notes-

*in 1910 “movies” were at the most 22 mins.long? so i’m guessing they alternated thru out the day with vaudeville acts.how long the Apollo continued to show movies doesn’t matter. my point was that its the oldest theater i have found to date that was built from the ground up expressly to show movies.

*actually of the 12 theaters built on 42 St. between 7th and 8th Avenues two were built with the intend of showcasing “movies”. aside from the Apollo the other was the Candler. it opened in 1914 with the Italian epic “Anthony and Cleopatra”. the original intend didn’t quite take hold and a short while later it became a legit house.

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bigjoe59 commented about Ziegfeld Theatre on Apr 30, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Hello Again-

what neighboring tower are you referring to? if the air rights were already sold a while back does that mean if God forbid the land was redeveloped they could only build a new structure the same size/height as the theater?

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bigjoe59 commented about Ziegfeld Theatre on Apr 30, 2012 at 8:41 am

i thank my fellow poster for the reply to my post. well at least i have an answer as to why the Ziegfeld has never been twinned. this could easily have been done by separating the elevated rear section of the orchestra. so my other question is simple. why haven’t the owners of the theater sold it? i wholeheartedly thank them for keeping the theater open but i’m guessing they could could get a huge truck load of cash even in today’s economy if they decided to sell the theater and the land for redeveloping.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 26, 2012 at 7:40 pm

Hello To Ed S.–

you have a point but hey i like searching.:–)

my original post/query was specifically about the first movie theater in Manhattan built brick
by brick from the ground up expressly to show
movies. for the longest period the oldest ones to fit my criteria that i was able to find were the ornate Regent and the moderately sized Bunny both from 1913. yet in the last two days i found out that the late Apollo on 42 St. was in fact built expressly to show films as well as vaudeville in 1910. so it bests the other two theaters by 3 years. hey you never know maybe with a little more searching i might find another Manhattan movie theater that fits my criteria that bests the Apollo.

speaking of the city as a whole(meaning all 5 boroughs) the answer might be The Nicoland Theater in the Bronx one of the very first theaters designed by renowned architect Thomas Lamb. it was at 768 Westchester Avenue and opened at the end of 1908.

one other note. the Westchester Theater at 2319 Westchester Avenue opened according to its page on this website in 1914. i then contacted the Bronx County Historical Society to ask if they had any additional info/photos on the this theater. guess what? the society’s reference librarian sent me an e-mail containing a photo of the Westchester Theater that existed at 2319 Westchester Avenue. the caption states it was owned and operated by George Hoffman. here comes the good part. the Westchester Theater at 2319 Westchester Avenue according to the photo’s caption opened in 1904 10 years before its page on this website said it opened. interesting hey?

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 26, 2012 at 12:22 pm

Hello To My Fellow Posters-

i do enjoy reading all your replies especially the witty ones. :–)

two new notes- *regardless of the sexual orientation and gender of the audience members or whatever activity they might have been engaged in am i correct in my statement that in its porn years the Variety Photoplays never showed gay porn only straight porn.

*my original post was about whether the ornate B.F. Moss Regent and the moderate sized Bunny both from 1913 were the 1st theaters built brick by brick from the ground up specifically to show to photoplays or flickers as they were called at the time. i asked this because since movies exploded like fire works after their debut at Koster and Bial’s Music Hall in April of 1896 i simply couldn’t believe that no theater built expressly to show movies were built until the Regent and Bunny of 1913. well they say if you search long enough you’ll find what you’re looking for. i had always assumed that the Apollo on 42 St.(which was torn down with its neighbor the Lyric to built the theater now known as the Foxwoods Theater)was built from the get go as a “legit” house to use an old term. well guess what? it was built from the get go to be a combo movie and vaudeville theater. so since it bests the Regent and the Bunny by 3 years it takes the crown as the oldest theater i’ve found to date that was built from the get go to show movies.

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bigjoe59 commented about Ziegfeld Theatre on Apr 24, 2012 at 6:45 pm

Hello-

i have been a big fan of this theater since seeing its debut engagement the Dec.1969 roadshow run of “Marooned”. its always a joy to see a film here. a simple question- the land under the theater must be worth a bzallion dollars even in today’s economy so how has Clearview Cinemas been able to keep it open? has the chain promised to keep the theater open and never sale it or tear down. i have wondered this the last few years especially since this theater and the Paris are i believe the only single screen movie theaters left in Manhattan.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 24, 2012 at 6:32 pm

Hello Again-

many thanks for my fellow posters replies to my inquiry. the first Rialto was torn down in 1932? and the Regent while in good shape as been renovated/refurbished etc….. many times for its use as a church. so what either theater looked like when they first opened is anyone’s guess. i hedging the bet the reason
they were considered “movie palaces” is they were larger and more ornate then any other movie theater in Manhattan at the time of their openings.

as the Streetscapes article reiterates many of the first movie theaters in the first 10 years 1896-1906 were simply converted store fronts, retail spaces, music halls or stage theaters. therefore considering how popular movies became after their April 1896 debut i can’t believe there weren’t any movie theaters built from the ground up specifically as movie theaters until the Bunny and Regent of 1913.

also i greatly enjoy reading the Streetscapes column every Sunday in the NY Times but in the older column posted i believe Gray made a mistake. i have been going into the Union Square and East Village areas since i was in college and i never remember the Variety Photoplays ever showing gay porn. before being torn down a few years ago it was unused for a few years and before that it had been converted to an off Broadway theater like 25? years ago. now before that it showed straight porn not gay. the long gone Pocket Theater two blocks down 3rd Ave. showed gay porn.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 23, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Hello Again-

i thank AlAlvarez and techman707 for replying to mu question. unfortunately the Loew’s State didn’t open till August of 1921. this would place it 8 years after B.F. Moss' Regent(the 1st “movie palace” built in Manhattan)and 5 years after the first Rialto(the first “movie palace” built in the Times Square area).

now no offense meant toward nickelodeons but i was always of the impression they were decent sized storefronts/retail spaces etc.. . that were renovated to show films but were not theaters as we use the term today. so between the movies debut at Koster and Bial’s Music Hall in April of 1896 and the opening of B.F. Moss' Regent in 1913 there had to been at least one or two more moderate sized edifices built specifically to show movies. i can’t believe the Regent was the first purpose built movie theater whether large,medium or small built in Manhattan.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 23, 2012 at 12:12 pm

Hello Again-

i know the B.F.Moss Regent on 135 St. was the first “movie palace” built in Manhattan and that the 1st Rialto of 1916 on 7th Ave.&42 St. was the first “movie palace” built in the Times Square area. this leads me to my question. after their debut as it were at Koster and Bial’s Music Hall in April of 1896 films had to be shown in quickly redone/renovated theaters/music halls since movie theaters obviously didn’t exist yet. so what was the 1st purpose built from the ground up movie theater in Manhattan?

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bigjoe59 commented about Gaiety Burlesk on Apr 21, 2012 at 5:33 pm

Hello-

1.i went to the Gaiety on a regular enough basis thru out the 30 years it was open. to the best of my knowledge it was never known as the Kings Cinema.

2.also the theater closed the 3rd week of March
2005 not 2006.

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bigjoe59 commented about TCL Chinese Theatre on Apr 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm

Hello Again-

i’m sure every theater no matter how well built it was or even if still in good condition doesn’t get redone/refurbished etc….to some extant over the years simply to keep it viable. so even if the Chinese has been redone/refurnished etc…over
the years at least its still Chinese in mode and is still a single screen first run theater since the day it opened. so other than the Chinese the only other theater i have found using this site
that fits the criteria in my March 22 post is the Uptown in D.C..

so i thank Danny B. for mentioning the Regency Village. also i guess i should just use the term grand old movie theater rather than palace. to which is the Regency Village still a single screen theater that has operated as a 1st run venue since the day it opened? for instance in terms of grand old movie theaters including palaces we have the Castro in San Francisco which is still a single screen venue and in damn good shape. but although it has been in continuous operation since the day it opened in 1924? it was built from the get go as a 2nd/ 3rd run neighborhood theater. i am referring to theaters built as 1st run venues that have continued to operate as such.

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bigjoe59 commented about TCL Chinese Theatre on Apr 19, 2012 at 4:54 pm

Hello- i would greatly appreciate it if my fellow posters could hope me with the question in my post of March 22. thanks in advance.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 18, 2012 at 8:02 am

Hello To Fellow Posters-

i originally asked this question a few months back so i was wondering if anyone has found the answer yet. when i first came upon this excellent website was i surprised in the intro above for this theater above that for a short time it was called the Mark 1-2-3. now i have been an avid theatergoer most of my adult life and have frequently used the TKTS booth which is right across from this theater since the day it opened in June of 1973. yet i never remember seeing Mark 1-2-3 on the marquee even for a minute amount of time. has anyone ever found a photo?

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 17, 2012 at 12:41 pm

Hello-

i thank you for your reply but the Art Greenwich was off of 12 St. a stone’s throw from the now suttered St. Vincent’s Hospital. i am referring to the two theaters that were actually on 8th St. the 8th St.Playhouse was almost at 6th. Avenue. the other theater was almost at Bway. but its not listed under any of the names i can think of. its now used as an auditorium by NYU.

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Apr 17, 2012 at 11:16 am

Hello to Everyone-

while i like this website immensely the 1 problem is that theaters aren’t necessarily listed by the name they’re best known by. i have been searching for a bit to find a theater on 8th St. closer to Broadway. i found the 8th St. Playhouse which was closer to 6th Ave. but what was the name of the theater closer to Bway. i can’t find it under any of the names it knew it by. its now used by NYU as an auditorium.

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bigjoe59 commented about Cinerama Dome and ArcLight Hollywood on Apr 12, 2012 at 6:20 pm

Hello Again To My Fellow Posters-

while we’re on the subject. why is it that some companies have been better at keeping prints of their roadshow widescreen epics in damn good condition that other companies? for instance none of the dvds of UA’s widescreen roadshow epics released by MGM Home Video have been the complete roadshow prints. whereas all the dvds and now blu-ray discs that Warner Bros. Home Video have released of MGM’S widescreen roadshow epics have been the
complete roadshow prints. what gives?

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bigjoe59 commented about Cinerama Dome and ArcLight Hollywood on Apr 12, 2012 at 10:32 am

Hello To My Fellow Posters-

speaking of negatives and prints etc…. i have a question that has always bugged me a bit. in the late 90s when vhs was still the dominant home video format MGM/UA Home Video created a new vhs series titled “MGM/UA Screen Epics”. all the films were digitally remastered with new art work for the slip case packaging. this is where my question comes in- the prints of THE ALAMO,ITS MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD and HAWAII that were reissued in this series were the original roadshow prints. yet the currently available dvds of these three films which are the only dvds i have ever come across are the general release prints not the roadshow prints. if complete roadshow prints were available for the vhs series why not use them for the dvds? is there a reason why they couldn’t?

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Mar 30, 2012 at 7:25 pm

Hello Again To Techman707- thank you for your reply. you seem to know lots and lots so i figure you were the person to ask. of course a number of grand old movie theaters are alive and well but not as movie theaters. in Manhattan Radio City Music Hall is a prime example.

so i have to reiterate my original question- in the 1913-1941 period countless grand movie theaters/ palaces were built in all 50 states at least half of which have since been torn down. so of all the ones still standing in all 50 states the Uptown in D.C., and Grauman’s Chinese in Hollywood are in fact the only two continuely operated as 1st run movie theaters in their original state/design since Day 1, is that possible?

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bigjoe59 commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Mar 29, 2012 at 12:22 pm

Hello To Techman707-

since i discovered this wonderful website last Feb. who have been most helpful with any questions i had. well here’s a good one i would appreciate your help with finding the answer to.

the building phase for grand old movie theaters or movie palaces to to use the popular term was approx. 1913 – 1941. unfortunately many of those theaters have since been torn down. so my question pertains to the ones still standing. here goes- of all the grand old movie theaters still standing which have not gutted for retail space, never became 2nd or 3rd run grind houses, never showed porn, were never radio or t.v. studios, were not converted to concert halls or performing arts centers and were not twinned, tri-plexed or quaded but have stayed in more or less their original design/condition as 1st run movie theaters since the day they opened. using this website the only 2 i have come across are the Uptown in D.C. and Grauman’s Chinese in Hollywood. can these be the only two in the entire country? how cam i find out if they are any others. many thanks in advance for you assistance.

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bigjoe59 commented about AMC Uptown 1 on Mar 22, 2012 at 4:46 pm

Hello To My Fellow Posters- i came across this website a year ago and was hooked from the get go. so i set up a project for myself- find as many grand old movie theaters or palaces to use the popular term that have not been gutted for retail space, were never a 2nd/3rd run or grind house, never showed porn, never used as a radio or t.v. studio, never converted to a concert hall or performing art center and were never twined, tri-plexed or if large enough quaded but and this is a big BUT has stayed in more or less their original state,design/condition as 1st run movie theater since the day it opened. thru my searching so far i have only found this theater and Grauman’s Chinese in Hollywood. they can’t be the only ones in the entire country can they? anyone know of other ones still operating as 1st run theaters?

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bigjoe59 commented about TCL Chinese Theatre on Mar 22, 2012 at 3:31 pm

Hello To My Fellow Posters- i discovered this website a year ago and was hooked. therefore i set up a project for myself- to find grand old movie theaters or palaces to use the popular term that fit these criteria- haven’t been torn down or gutted for retail space, never became a 2nd/3rd run or grind house, never showed porn, never used as a radio or t.v. studio, wasn’t converted to a concert hall or performing arts center, and was never twined, tri-plexed or if large enough quaded but and this is a big BUT has stayed in its original state/design/condition as a 1st run movie theater since the day it opened. using this site the only two i’ve found are the Uptown in D.C. and of course Grauman’s Chinese. they can’t be the only ones in the entire country can they? do my fellow posters know of any other theaters that fit my criteria. many thanks in advance.

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bigjoe59 commented about TCL Chinese Theatre on Jan 5, 2012 at 9:18 am

Hello from NYC. i find many recent postings quite fascinating. first off the many comments as to why the Chinese didn’t book one of the many “big” year end flicks but THE DARKEST HOUR instead.
Considering the many “big” year end flicks this surprises me as well since the only other theaters in the immediate area is the Cinerama Dome/Archlight and the El Capitan.

Also the many comments about raising ticket prices. i was always under the assumption that first run theaters in Manhattan had the highest prices. Obviously 3-D, IMAX and 3-D IMAX have surcharges but the highest price for a regular first run theater is $13.50 at theaters run by the Regal chain.

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bigjoe59 commented about TCL Chinese Theatre on Oct 13, 2011 at 4:28 pm

Hello to my fellow posters. i discovered this website the end of January and have greatly enjoyed it ever since. now if i’m not mistaken the golden age of movie palace building was approx. 1913 to 1941. now i set up a project for myself using this website. its simple-of movie palaces build during this period and still standing how many have not been gutted for retail space, turned into 2nd or 3rd run grind houses, never showed porn, never used as a radio ot t.v. studio, never converted into concert halls or performing arts center, or twinned, tri-plexed or quaded but have stayed in more or less there original condition as 1st run movie theaters since the day they opened. using this website i have only come across 2-Grauman’s Chinese and the Uptown Theater in D.C. can they be the only 2 in the whole country? so does anyone know of any others that fit my criteria? thanks in advance.

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bigjoe59 commented about Ziegfeld Theatre on Sep 28, 2011 at 1:24 pm

Hello.

i have a question that i hope someone can answer. i have been a big fan of the Ziegfeld Theater since it opened Dec 1969 with the roadshow engagement of MAROONED. i’m as amazed as i am delighted that the theater is still alive and well. with real estate in Manhattan i’m sure the land under the theater is worth like a bazillion dollars. so my question is simple- with the land value how is it that the theater hasn’t been torn down and the land redeveloped? look at the Loew’s Tower East it closed because AMC couldn’t be bothered with running a single screen movie theater.