Roxy Theatre

153 W. 50th Street,
New York, NY 10020

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chconnol
chconnol on January 6, 2005 at 10:45 am

As Myron cites above, the Taft hotel is still there. Where the entrance was to the Roxy is now where the TGIFridays is.

My question to all of you Roxy people, was the ticket area to the Roxy very low and narrow? I seem to recall that my Mother told me that it was almost claustrophobic but it then opened up into a huge space. You have to wonder if it was intentionally done this way to create a sense of drama.

Also, if the Roxy used part of the Taft Hotel’s lobby for their box office/entrance, did they have to pay rent? Just curious…

Myron
Myron on January 6, 2005 at 10:09 am

CC Connolly is right, the Taft Hotel was not demolished but re-named as the Michelangelo. I passed by this week and it does look the same. It’s very depressing to remember all the good times we spent at the Roxy. By the way, the Roxy didn’t always offer a live show with the film. They were in competition with the RCMH, so had no choice. We often strolled over to the Roxy if the Music Hall’s line was too long. I preferred the Roxy because I preferred films from 20th Century-Fox and loved the Alfred Newman Cinemascope fanfare. Also, I felt the Roxy had a more attractive marquee, while the RCMH had an art-decor marquee. Which theatre had better popcorn, I don’t remember.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on January 5, 2005 at 8:09 am

The closest I ever got to the Roxy was seeing the incredibly detailed scale model of its auditorium on display at the American Museum of the Moving Image in Astoria, Queens, NY. Even in miniature form it looks like one of the grandest theaters that ever existed.

Vito
Vito on January 5, 2005 at 4:06 am

Bill, for a moment, while reading your notes I was able to forget the troubles of the world, travel thru time, and imagine myself watching the grand curtain rise at RCMH to the MGM logo on “Teahouse” and hear the Fox Fanfare at the Roxy for “Anastasia”. Thanks for that.

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on January 4, 2005 at 10:43 pm

Oops—a gremlin crept into my preceding note. Not “Sayonara” but “Teahouse of the August Moon” was the Christmas film at RCMH concurrent with “Anastasia” at the Roxy. But, hey, both of those films are set in Asia (and both would have pitted Brando against Bergman), so: point made (though I should have said “Asian thematics” in the above post). Gaffes like this will erode my credibility.

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on January 4, 2005 at 10:03 pm

On the RCMH page yesterday, SimonL evoked the “Ave Maria” chorales that the Roxy had offered (inconsistently) in their Christmas shows. He rightly questioned my recall of that presentation with the screening of “Anastasia” in ‘57. But since after twenty-eight years I recently opened my sealed storage-box of programs and playbills from the '50s and '60s, I’ll act badly and quote from the souvenir of that show.

It was an expanded program celebrating the first anniversary of return of the Roxy’s stage shows, which had been suspended since CinemaScope overtook the proscenium in ‘53 (“The Robe,” et al.). The show was titled “Wide Wide World Holiday,” and Sandy Szabo, who last 10 October wrote on this page that she had skated at the Roxy, is listed among the Ice Roxyettes. It began with a segue from the Fox Movietone Newsreel, in which the then ubiquitous television personality Dave Garroway congratulated the theater’s Managing Director Robert C. Rothafel for his wisdom in resuming the live presentations. Next followed “the Roxy Orchestra under the baton of Robert Boucher and the Roxy Caroleers under the direction of Robert Nicholson” [at this point might it have been possible that the latter intoned “Ave Maria”? I remember this chorale from shows past, but might have transposed it here?].

Segment #2 was called “Happiness Street—Anywhere, U.S.A.” and it enlisted “the entire ensemble featuring the Ice Roxyettes” along with the Caroleers, first in a number entitled “Song to a Star,” and then in a number (confounding Cole Porter, Mary Martin, and Eartha Kitt) entitled “My Heart Belongs to Santa Baby,” the latter “introducting Miss Mae Edwards …a 1957 Chrvrolet Corvette … Manuel Del Toro [the lead male skater] … the Roxy Blades [the male skating corps] and Paula Newland, vocalist.” My memory of this scene goes quietly blank.

Segment #3 was called “Three Spots of Cheer” and it featured the Roxyettes, Blades, and Caroleers “in a holiday visit to Merrie London Town and Holand and … a touch of ‘Christmas in Killarney.’” Here my visual recall summons an image of those snow villages that you place on train sets at this time of year, with appropriate Victorian, Dutch, and Gaelic touches.

Segment #4 was called “The Bruises” and offered “holiday hilarity and nonsensical fun!” Clowns on skates, no doubt: don’t hold me to it.

Segment #4, “Winter Blossom Time,” introduced, with thanks to Eastman Kodak, “the scenic presentation of the innovation known as ‘SpectaColor.’” I recall that the latter was a gigantic projection device, like a 35 mm home-slide-show pumped up to unimaginable dimensions. Its three numbers were comprised of “The Jingle Belles of Ming in Fan Fare” with Miss Edwards, the Roxyettes, and Caroleers (hazy memories of the Tibetan Roof, Chongqing, Suzhou, the Great Wall, and the like), “Love Is a Many Splendored Thing” with Miss Edwards and the Blades (the program notes “with apologies to the Kabuki and Noh plays of Japan”: but why apologize?), and “Geisha Gaiety” with “the entire ensemble in a holiday celebration.” Here SimonL recalls a striking image of Japan’s Matsumoto mountain as the curtain fell.

Two notes: (1)The Christmas film at RCMH that year was “Sayonara,” and the co-incidental Japanese thematics conveys a whiff of the rivalry that those theaters pitched coyly at the time. (2) The following year, Kodak photographed the Rockettes in their Christmas routine accompanying “Auntie Mame” (my Showplace program for the week of 4 Dec. ‘58 calls the number “Rocket to the Moon”). That enormous photomural was then put on exhibit at Grand Central Terminal, and in Dec. '61 was returned to the stage of RCMH as a self-referential backdrop for the Rockettes who were clad in the same outfits they had worn for the picture. By that time, as we all know, the Roxy had been razed, with a scant remainder of Kodak moments to remind us of what it had been.

chconnol
chconnol on January 3, 2005 at 9:37 am

RCMH is still going (whether strong or not is arguable). People (NY-ers, tourists, etc) know the place by name whether they’ve been in NY or not.

The Roxy? It’s more of a legend than a reality for most people. What other NY theaters were posted here before The Roxy?

The Roxy is what brought me to this site in the first place due to my parent’s descriptions of the place.

chconnol
chconnol on January 3, 2005 at 8:55 am

There was a truly lame “Modern Marvels” program on the History Channel last Thursday evening about Times Square. My mouth salivated at the thought (before it started) that they would at least dwell in part on the great movie palaces in Times Square. But lo and behold, the program barely discussed the item touching upon it ever so briefly and never ONCE discussing any particular theater by name except for The Hippodrome(??!!) and showing still photographs of The State and some semi-interesting photos of The Capitol and The Rivoli. The stupid ass thing about it was that they showed the photographs but did not identify the theaters by name. Only because of this site did I know what I was looking at.

Why hasn’t someone done a documentary on the movie houses of NYC? You’d think PBS could do something amazing with it. The Roxy alone sounds like it could make a fascinating documentary. That’s just me, of course.

chconnol
chconnol on January 3, 2005 at 7:50 am

I find the above comment about RCMH being a tourist destination and The Roxy not being one very interesting.

My Mother (a Manhattan native) always said she preferred The Roxy. She loved RCMH but spoke very fondly of The Roxy. Because she was a native NY-er, I think this fits into Warren’s description.

But why was this so? I know it’s pointed out that RCMH got exclusives but there must’ve been some other reason why a building as grand as the Roxy got second billing after RCMH. My Mother said that The Roxy was truly grand and opulent whereas RCMH was more austere (art deco) and had “clean-lines”.

Just curious on everyone’s thoughts. Did RCMH advertise more to tourists or something also?

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on January 2, 2005 at 8:17 pm

You’re right about “clearance.” As a kid visiting family in Quincy MA in the late ‘40s and early '50s, I remember a billboard at the local train station (the Red Line to Boston) advertising current attractions at RCMH (“Look For the Silver Lining,” “On the Town,” “Sunset Boulevard”) in the usual austere format (no pictorials, except for an abstract sketch of the proscenium arch and a single Rockette) with a starred notice: “Now playing at RCMH. Coming soon to Boston.”

I’ve got to agree with Vito about better screen and sound at the Roxy. Its screen was a tad smaller (60' seems about right), but it was gently curved, and the projection was sharp as a tack. And its stereo sound was perfect. On the RCMH page at this site, I’ve remarked about horizontal lines on its screen where the panels joined (and on a resolutely flat screen, too), along with a persistent echo (especially in a less-than-full house) and evident lack of magnetic stereophonic sound. Fly space at RCMH was too narrow for a curved screen and a multiple sound system. But because the Roxy sacrificed fly space for its film presentation, its stage shows offered fewer elaborate sets and a more static display. Win some, lose some.

Vito
Vito on January 1, 2005 at 4:27 am

Brucec,I would have to agree with Warren. As a tourists, the Music Hall was high on the must see list of attractions to see. I don’t ever remember seeing lines at The Roxy that compared to those wraped around RCMH. Of course the Christmas shows were on everyones santa list, including us locals. One of the few exceptions was when
“The Robe” played the Roxy, everyone flocked to see
CinemaScope “the Miracle you could see with glasses”.
AS to film presentation, I always felt the CinemaScope screen and stereo sound at the Roxy was more impressive than RCMH. I was always bothered by the echo watching movies at RCMH.

bruceanthony
bruceanthony on December 31, 2004 at 11:30 am

How did the Music Hall and the Roxy compare in boxoffice during the Golden Era into the mid 1950’s. I noticed the Music Hall played a lot of MGM product during the 1950’s and the Roxy showed mostly Fox films. It seemed the Roxy was more progressive in 1950’s than the Music Hall,when Hollywood developed the wide screen format.I would also like to hear how the theatres compared in film presentaion and what theatre was more enjoyable to watch a film.I know the Music Hall had the better stage presentations by the comments I have read.I would love to hear your comments.brucec

chconnol
chconnol on December 30, 2004 at 7:13 am

The Hotel Taft has not been demolished. It’s just renamed “The Michaelangelo”. I know because I work right next to it. The TGIFridays resides where the entrance lobby to the Roxy was. In old photographs, you can clearly see the moorish arches above the entrance that are still there.

Actually, I have no idea what the hell the building is used for. I think part of it is the Michaelangelo. Other parts of it seem to be used for apartments or something.

Myron
Myron on December 30, 2004 at 6:55 am

I did research and found that the Hotel Taft, the neighbor of the Roxy was demolished,too, if that’s any consolation. It has been replaced by a new hotel, “The Michelangelo”!

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on December 28, 2004 at 12:08 pm

RoxyDon—Thanks for acknowleding my research. It was a sweat-free effort: the info comes from “The NY Times Directory of the Film,” ed. Arthur Knight, Arno Press/Random House, 1971, an index to the first six volumes of the complete multi-volume “NY Times Film Reviews,” currently compiled through the early 1990s. It’s cool to know that you were ushering at the Roxy when I saw a bunch of films there as a kid—betcha we encountered each other!

donaldoconnell2
donaldoconnell2 on December 28, 2004 at 11:24 am

Vito through Box Office Bill’s efforts I stand corrected. I remember having the album from the movie and thought it came from the Roxy. Thanks for the correction

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on December 28, 2004 at 11:13 am

Concurrently, the Roxy was showing “Carousel” (16 Feb, eight weeks) and “The King and I” (28 June, nine weeks).

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on December 28, 2004 at 9:41 am

“Picnic” began a five-week run at RCHM on 16 Feb ‘56, and “Duchin” played at RCMH for seven weeks beginning on 22 June '56.

donaldoconnell2
donaldoconnell2 on December 28, 2004 at 8:31 am

Vito for some reason I recall the Eddie Duchin Story playing at the Roxy not at RCMH. I could be wrong after all its been a few years.

Vito
Vito on December 28, 2004 at 3:57 am

As I recall, Columbia and RCMH agreed on a two picture deal of
“Picnic” and “Eddie Duchin Story” playing back to back.

RobertR
RobertR on December 27, 2004 at 8:01 am

I just remembered it’s the Clearview Chelsea Cinemas.

RobertR
RobertR on December 27, 2004 at 8:00 am

That’s one of her favorite movies and I think she said she saw that there also. I guess the years mixes alot of things up. It shows how memorable theatres were in addition to the films that they showed. Nobody will remember twenty years from now seeing The Aviator at Cineplex Chelsea Cinemas.

RobertR
RobertR on December 27, 2004 at 6:31 am

My mother remembers seeing “Picnic” at the Roxy, is her memory correct?

donaldoconnell2
donaldoconnell2 on December 27, 2004 at 6:01 am

Thanks for the kind words. Have sent my post to other ushers and usherettes who were there when I was. Maybe they will post their memories.

Vito
Vito on December 27, 2004 at 4:01 am

Roxydon, Thanks for the post, it gave me chills. What wonderful memories, you make it sound like it was just yesterday….
If only it were. Please keep posting, your writing is what this web site is all about.