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Jeff S.: what do mean “Pete is correct”? Don’t you mean “Mike and Pete are correct”? After all, I correctly stated the “To Be Continued” credit was never in the original theatrical version a couple of posts prior to Pete’s. Just pointing out it seems my post was overlooked. But in fairness to Pete, he probably was just emphasizing the fact to counter the dude who replied after me insisting the credit was present.
Anyway, to offer futher evidence (just because I enjoy beating a dead horse), I saw “Back To The Future” 14 times during its original 1985-86 run in nearly as many theaters and in both 35mm and 70mm versions. Even saw a 16mm version at a special screening arranged for my high school. NONE of those screenings had the “To Be Continued” credit, no doubt because at that time there were no plans for any sequels. (This is similar to the original “Star Wars” not initially having an episode number.)
And to be certain memory isn’t playing any tricks, I saw “Back To The Future” two more times after its video release —– in 1988 at a special “Steven Spielberg Day” at the Cinerama Dome, and in 1990 at the Avco Westwood during the “See The Future Back To Back To Back” Triple Feature preceding the release of “Part III” —– and again no “To Be Continued” credit.
Now, as has been mentioned by others, “Part II” did have a “To Be Continued” credit, and it is this that people are probably remembering.
OK, back to the Ziegfeld (no pun intended)…
The “To Be Continued” credit was added to the video version.
I’ve lived in Southern California for many, many years, but have attended a movie at the FAIRFAX only a few times. In fact, I don’t recall ever attending a “regular” showing of anything; my visits were all during the spring/summer 1990 Sunday morning 70mm series.
Among the films I saw were “Blade Runner,” “The Great Race,” and “Raiders Of The Lost Ark.”
That “Blade Runner” screening was noteworthy, for those familiar with the film’s history, for it was when it was “discovered” that an alternative cut of the film existed. (Apparently, the film cans were either mislabeled or simpy identified the film’s title without clarifying it as being an early “test” print.)
The Metro was one of San Francisco’s 70mm-equipped houses.
You don’t make it clear whether those who posted the articles in question cited their sources. I suspect they didn’t.
As long as publication name, article name, author, and original publication date is cited in one’s post, then where’s the problem? (I can see where a newspaper requiring a subscription to access a web version of an article may object to whole text being posted.)
Hopefully, Cinema Treasures posters will see Patrick’s post above and take a moment to remind themselves to start attributing more often their sources of information. There seems to be an ALARMING amount of information on this website posted without any attribution…and, worse, much of the info is just plain wrong.
This website has incredible potential, but the nature of user-submitted information sites is, in my opinion, a major credibility threat.
Historical Note: The SYOSSET was the first custom-built Todd-AO 70mm theatre in the world. (Every venue that ran Todd-AO presentations prior to the SYOSSET were retrofits.)
I believe the SYOSSET’s most successful engagement was the 78-week run of “The Sound Of Music.”
Another long, successful run was “How The West Was Won” at 43 weeks.
Is this the same theatre as the LANDERS 400?
Earlier in this thread, two people claimed seeing “2001: A Space Odyssey” at the Crest in 1968. I think this is highly doubtful considering “2001” played an exclusive run at the Esquire from the time it had its area premiere in June 1968 through spring 1969. Perhaps the posters were thinking of a subsequent engagement. But then, perhaps one theatre is being confused with the other.
It seems a lot of people have fond memories of seeing “2001” in the theatre. For those folks, here’s a link to a little something I researched regarding its original release. Page 2 of the article is a list of the original hard-ticket, reserved-seat roadshow engagements. Well, most of ‘em anyway.
Confirmed via microfilm of The Oklahoman newspaper. The Continental opened on Oct. 21, 1965.
I remember vividly that ‘89 engagement at the Dome! That was the first time I had ever seen “West Side Story,” and the presentation made a big impression on me. Details here:
View link (scroll down to September 29)
Although, as far as I know, no bookings have been made, I feel confident it will screen somewhere in L.A. at least once in the near future. We on the West Coast have been VERY lucky the last few years in regard to large-format classics. In fact, I’ll take this opportunity to relay just how cool it was to see the new 70mm print of “Grand Prix” just a few weeks ago, not to mention the slate of stuff recently screened at the Egyptian and Aero!
You’re correct; MGM currently own the rights to “West Side Story.” Sony had the rights, briefly, which was when they did some restoration work and had the print struck. (It’s getting more and more confusing trying to keep straight all of the studio mergers and acquisitions and who owns what.)
Not sure about the sound format; it’s probably DTS. Not sure about any bookings, either. If the Ziegfeld is only a platter booth, then that might be a dealbreaker, as has been mentioned earlier in this discussion, regarding the possibility of booking “archive” and limited quantity prints.
Lousy list? Seems more like you have lousy taste in movies. :–)
I notice that “West Side Story” is among the Ziegfeld’s scheduled classics. Coincidentally, I’ve heard that Sony (who now owns the rights) has recently struck a new 70mm print…
Newspaper advertisements and trade coverage suggest to me that “Empire” opened on Wednesday the 21st, not Friday the 23rd.
I’d can suggest taking a peek at the following pages. Assuming you already know the R&H titles in question, you should be able to find some of the information you’re seeking.
Regarding the June 7 screenings of “Lawrence Of Arabia” and “The King And I” mentioned a few posts back, that event also included a birthday party/roast/tribute to Tomlinson Holman, best known as the developer of the THX Sound System. For those who may have an interest, here is a link to some pics:
And speaking of Mr. Holman, he celebrated a birthday recently. Here’s a link to a photo gallery of the event.
The “Cerwin-Vega Sensurround” subwoofers you’re thinking of may be the ones installed for 70mm-MegaSound presentations ca. 1980.
“Tora! Tora! Tora!” (late 1970/early 1971).
“TSOM did move to the Shore but I am not sure if it was April 66 or 67.” (Mikeoaklandpark on May 22, 2006)
“Does that mean that SOM played from May ‘65 until '67 at the Virginia and then moved to the Shore?” (Vincent on May 22, 2006)
It definitely was not in April of ‘66. “The Sound Of Music” played exclusively at the Virginia on a reserved-seat basis from spring '65 through the fall of '66. The Shore engagement would not have been with reserved seats nor would it have been a move-over.
The answer to your question might be Brad Miller, who was a projectionist at the Northpark for many years. I’d suggest visiting his website www.film-tech.com and asking the question in one of the forums.
Oh, and the Tomlinson Harlon you mention is actually Tomlinson Holman (the “T' and "H” of “THX”).
The theatre is gone. I was in Westwood Village the other day and couldn’t help but notice the huge hole in the ground where the Plaza once sat. The whole block of Glendon to the north of where the theatre was located is being redeveloped.
“Duck Dodgers in the 24th ½ Century” was shown in 70mm with “Star Wars” at the Cinema 21 in San Francisco.
The STILLWELL is the subject of this news item:
The Stillwell Theatre in Bedford is indeed the Cinema Treasure in question. The address I have, however, is 290 Broadway (sourced from 1960s era Plain Dealer newspaper ads), which would place it a block or two away from the 310 Broadway address supplied in the previous post.
The Stillwell’s engagement of “The Sound Of Music” was a “Special Selective Engagement” (AKA a modified roadshow) premiering in February 1967 and running for 15 weeks.
Sorry I do not have anything else on the theatre. But for more on the original showings of “The Sound Of Music,” see: