AMC Lincoln Square 13
1998 Broadway,
New York,
NY
10023
1998 Broadway,
New York,
NY
10023
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I don’t know about this, digital files are literally just files. They are like DVDs and SD cards, which to me seems pretty reliable. They also come via satellite to some theaters, which is kind of like a TV stream. Those things seems much more reliable to me than a gigantic box of 35mm film.
Also, 2k is basically 1080p or 1440p, right? It’s just kind of hard to imagine that rusty 35mm prints could keep up with that. I even remember going to the movies thinking “Yeah the quality at the theater is even worse than at home”
70mm maybe, but as we know for every theater that is literally impossible. And even here I heard that Hateful Eight had imperfections.
Also I can imagine that some theaters still use the same digital stuff they got 8 years ago – digital projectors don’t need to be replaced that often as you might think. If you want to upgrade to 4k maybe, but that’s because technology improves, not because your projector sucks. And even here you don’t have to upgrade to 4k.
Also, think about it this way: You don’t need to PRINT the movie, you just need to get the file. That means you just need the system and the projector. You don’t need to get new prints from the studio all the time.
To further explain, how often do you replace your computer? your digital camera? probably every few years in both instances, out of date. Not so 35mm film projectors which last many years. But digital film projectors…….
yes, I mean 2k hard drives, or as you state, with 2k resolution. It is well known that digital projectors go out of date way quicker than any 35mm film projectors ever did! And then must be expensively replaced. As to digital files….when your digital presentation “goes down” your show is canceled. Film projector problems could often be quickly fixed- not so when the computer or digital projector has a problem. Movie theaters are well aware….
And as I’ve stated, I do understand that new films are not going to be projected other than with digital.
How are digital files less reliable than giant film prints? Also, where is your evidence that digital projectors last less than film projectors? I
What do you mean by 2k film? You mean digital files with 2k resolution?
Honestly, looking back at the blockbusters I saw with 35mm, digital just looks so much clearer and better. I don’t know if praising 35mm, which is a pretty old format BTW, is the right thing to do right now.
Exactly, HowardBHaas. You nailed it on the head.
It is not my imagination that 2k film does NOT have the resolution of 35mm film. That’s fact. Digital cameras are more convenient for people. digital projection is more convenient for movie theaters. Convenience doesn’t mean better. And, digital projectors are far LESS reliable & last far less time than film projectors. Of course, everybody IS switching to digital projection. Maybe eventually some, including laser, will be better than film.
We had 35mm prints for almost all blockbusters before 2012 in many theaters. Nobody cared back then. Its just your imagination that film is more cinematic, as Cliffs pointed out the 70mm version had issues that might be nostalgic but just don’t keep up with digital.
Think about cameras – they don’t run on film anymore. They run on files. And those files are just more reliable.
35mm is more like 4k film not 2k in terms of resolution and 6k doesn’t approach 70mm. (That’s why some 70mm classics were scanned at 8k) The 70mm print that I saw of The Hateful Eight at AFI Silver had no dirt, focus or stability issues and greater resolution of detail than anything I’ve seen in 2k or 4k film. Film is also easier on the eyes. I’ve not experienced laser projection & don’t know much about it but I’d take real film over 2k or 4k anytime!
I’ve seen Hateful 8 in both 70mm and DCP. Care to guess which one looked better? (I’ll give you a hint… it WASN’T the 70mm, which had various focus, dirt, and stability issues- none of which were present on the much sharper/more detailed/more stable DCP)
Digital acquisition and projection is improving every single year. Film is exactly the same as it’s been for decades. I love film for nostalgic reasons, but the MASSIVE improvements that digital has seen in only about a decade of existence is why it’s the future. 35mm release prints are the rough equivalent of about 2K, so 4K digital projection (and especially when you start to introduce laser and HDR/DolbyVison) are already superior to film on the majority of releases. And Arri has already released a 65mm 6K digital Alexa, so even 65/70mm film is getting lapped by digital acquisition. Film’s days are numbered and instead of calling out people as laser/digital apologists, try to understand that these improvements in digital are only going to continue to equal/surpass film as time goes on. Rigidly gripping onto 35 and 70mm film means keeping the technological advances of movie making stagnant and less than it could/should be. This isn’t 2002 when Lucas was shooting Attack of the Clones at 1080p. We’re way past that. Try to keep up.
It’s because of people like you that they’re trying to get rid of film once and for all, to replace it with digital garbage just because it’s cheaper. Good thing we still have those directors who prefer film, unlike you.
I knew you’d be the laser/digital apologist. Nothing yet looks better than 70mm film.
Film projection might have a higher resolution than laser BUT as many filmmakers have said too, contrast and brightness can matter much more than resolution AND 70mm gets worse with each screening (scratches and stuff) AND film takes more hours to set up AND film is basically obsolete with modern cameras and projectors AND 70mm prints are extremely expensive and messy.
So I’m kinda glad we get the laser which will finally fill up the screen again for EVERY movie.
@xbs2034 I’m so glad Deadpool will be in IMAX 2D, but I’m bummed out that BvS and Civil War will most likely be only in IMAX 3D at Lincoln Square, just like Star Wars. At least they will be in IMAX 3D with Laser. I really hope they install that Laser projector at Licoln Square before Deadpool comes out.
Spire is right. IMAX Laser can do 1.43:1 just like IMAX 70mm. I think Laser will take over film in the future. IMAX 70mm still has a higher resolution than Laser. This Laser stuff is an excuse to get rid of film projection once and for all.
@moviebuff82 Yup! That’s what I like about those directors. They know film is better than digital.
@celboy The IMAX Laser projectors are indeed capable of projecting at 1.43:1, using vertical anamorphic lenses. Reports I have read suggest that for IMAX Laser shows of SW7, the Jakku sequence is presented in 1.43:1.
@ACS12 Deadpool is a 2D only release, then BvS is in 3D but I wouldn’t be surprised if there are also 2D IMAX showings (WB has often done that with pictures like In the Heart of the Sea, The Hobbit, and most directly Man of Steel having both 2D and 3D IMAX showings), though Civil War may only be available in IMAX 3D based on Marvel Studios release history.
IMAX has always said there is a place for both 2D and 3D (how I feel as well), so I don’t expect anything to change with laser regarding that.
And some of them are shot in IMAX, like Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, and Intersteller, and his upcoming movie Dunkirk. He is a huge fan of filming stuff in that format. Quentin Tarantino also shoots stuff in 2d too and prefers film to digital. Hence that his latest work was shot in 65mm for 70mm release before a nationwide rollout in a shorter digital version.
Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. This 3D fad is just a ploy to overcharge people. Ever since Avatar came out, that’s when they decided to release every freaking movie in 3D, even if they weren’t shot in 3D. It was good for Avatar, but not for every single movie. This is why I like Christopher Nolan. He’s not a fan of this post-converted 3D crap either. He releases all his movies in 2D.
I meant it probably is 3D since that’s the commercial way to got, not that I personally would insist on 3D.
“Nah, that stuff should all be 3D” – No it shouldn’t. I hate fake 3D. IMAX 2D is way better.
Nah, that stuff should all be 3D. But that should also improve with laser since the brightness and the colors should be better with laser and that I kind of struggle with when I watch 3D. With 3D e everything just seems darker, so laser might change that.
“They are going to close the IMAX somewhere next week and then reopen with laser for Deadpool. So after Deadpool everything should be laser. But that’s just what I heard, they might change schedule.”
This makes me happy to hear. I hope it’s true. I want to watch Deadpool, Batman v Superman and Civil War in 2D, though. Don’t like wearing glasses to watch a movie (unless that movie was filmed with 3D cameras, such as Avatar). But something tells me every movie with Laser will be in 3D.
You act like I didn’t know that already, waterguy. AMC Licoln Square used to have an IMAX 70mm projector, but they stupidly took it away to replace it with the Laser one, right before Star Wars was going to come out. They couldn’t get the permits and shit completed in time, so they had no other choice to show it in digital. They’re wasting all that screen on digital garbage. That huge screen was made for IMAX 70mm film.
thanks for the confirmation of your imax sw7 experiences. I am curious about the laser imax sw7 shows. I think they are similar to “regular digital imax” except they are 4k projectors and better color & blacks. I am waiting to hear if it is 1.4 AR for the Jakku sequence but I ’m thinking its 1.9. The chip shape (1.9) in laser hasn’t changed …just the resolution.. so am wondering if a secondary vertical anamorphic lens is how they will display legacy imax off the laser projectors. I found that info here: http://www.lfexaminer.com/formats.htm