AMC Lincoln Square 13

1998 Broadway,
New York, NY 10023

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R68Dtrain2500
R68Dtrain2500 on November 9, 2015 at 12:59 pm

The only thing they gonna do is using the image on the digital IMAX and the movie will not gonna look clearly on the big screen. Real IMAX 70mm film projection is way better than the fake IMAX

cetrata
cetrata on November 9, 2015 at 7:41 am

*shows more image than in the normal theater

cetrata
cetrata on November 9, 2015 at 7:37 am

I wouldn’t have really a huge problem over projection had star wars episode 7 not shot anything in imax (since even though 70mm film has a bigger screeni image, the aspect ratio remains the same for the non imax parts as in the regular). Problem is that this does indeed have at least the climax shot in imax and that shows more image than in the theatrical release. Digital Imax (the xenon non laser system) won’t be able to show all of it. I just find it BS NYC won’t have a chance to experience it JJ intended.

digital3d
digital3d on November 7, 2015 at 10:24 pm

But by that logic, IMAX on 34th or 42nd street is better than Lincoln Square because that one doesn’t have bars on the side.

Actually theaters are supposed to cover the bars on the sides with a curtain so that you won’t notice them. Many don’t do that however.

xbs2034
xbs2034 on November 7, 2015 at 7:21 pm

Though with laser and 70mm the black bars are only on top and bottom, not the sides as well (and maybe it’s personal preference or seeing tons of films at home this way, but letterboxing doesn’t bother that much whereas something about bars on the sides feel uncinematic), and only because they are trying to preserve the film’s intended aspect ratio and framing.

For films shot or formatted for IMAX, laser and 15/70 can completely fill a giant IMAX screen with no bars.

digital3d
digital3d on November 7, 2015 at 7:10 pm

Even with laser there will be black bars, even with 70mm there are black bars. I don’t know – digital 3D IMAX is the standard and people know that Hollywood ain’t gonna provide 70mm films that cost 30k to print for each blockbuster. So why still call it liemax?

Technically dome would be the only ‘real’ IMAX since it fills up your whole viewing field.

Honestly, sometimes, specially in theaters like Empire 25, I would even prefer RPX or AMC prime to IMAX. Those are sometimes more advanced than a 10 or 20 year old IMAX screen.

xbs2034
xbs2034 on November 7, 2015 at 7:01 pm

I consider it liemax (though still a nice theater with great sound) partly because you don’t get a 80 ft+ image with digital IMAX. More like 75 feet with huge black bars on the sides since Lincoln should be throwing an image near 100 feet. Plus while it is bigger than Empire 25, it doesn’t feel dramatically so the way it used (34th on the other hand I’ve always found too small to really deserve the IMAX branding personally).

Laser will be very different, big increase in resolution, apparently (though I’d like to have the chance to see it for myself to judge) much better image quality, will fill the screen again, and also some other perks like updated sound and a new quality control system which monitors the visuals and sound 24/7 remotely (not talked about much, but I think potentially one of the bigger improvements with the laser IMAX system).

I also wouldn’t quite consider it “brand new” tech by the time in gets to Lincoln. It will have been in use for over a year by then in other locations (debuted with Hobbit: Battle of the Five Armies), and in the crazy fast paced tech improvement world we live in, I’d say about a year is the most you have to legitimately market upgraded technology as new, though it does sound like it will be the modern “real” IMAX as 15/70 film projection is sadly on its last legs.

digital3d
digital3d on November 7, 2015 at 6:36 pm

Is digital 3D IMAX on an over 80 feet screen really considered liemax? Or is modern, brand-new and super expensive laser with the same format as film also gonna be considered liemax?

I thought liemax was just a screen that was below the IMAX average, like the ones in Midtown (Empire 25, 34th street etc.)?

xbs2034
xbs2034 on November 7, 2015 at 1:14 pm

I don’t think IMAX did much wrong (other than perhaps making sure the location got laser sooner, and they won’t outright state it won’t fill the screen which we all know will be the case anyway with digital IMAX), and don’t get why everyone assumed it would show in 15/70.

As I said, I expected it to show in liemax before the announcement (everything but Interstrllar the past two years has) and actually am a bit surprised any 15/70 prints were made and they mostly were for museums which never ditched film. Plus, IMAX listed their film and laser locations on their website once tickets went on sale, a step they don’t take for most movies.

I understand and agree with being disappointed in how the film will play here, but it’s not like IMAX tricked anyone.

ShutterMunster
ShutterMunster on November 7, 2015 at 11:01 am

Awful business tactics on display here. Wait weeks after the tickets go on sale and are sold out to reveal this news to everyone. Fucking shameful. I spent 20 mins trying to nab those tickets only to find out it’ll be playing in a goddamn window on that massive screen. Infuriating.

R68Dtrain2500
R68Dtrain2500 on November 6, 2015 at 12:51 pm

AMC could kept the IMAX 70mm film much longer instead just replacing them.The IMAX 70mm films looks nicer than digital IMAX

markp
markp on November 6, 2015 at 10:39 am

I wonder if AMC even kept the 70MM projector. In most of their theatres they just rolled all film equipment right into the dumpsters.

400Blows
400Blows on November 6, 2015 at 6:30 am

Digital crap. Like watching a movie (I won’t call them “films” because they are not) on a giant television. Just give me real film projection. Real 70mm film. I’m hoping “The Hateful Eight” will play in this location’s theatre #1, during it’s 70mm Ultra Panavision run.

Giles
Giles on November 2, 2015 at 7:40 pm

correct xbs2034 – the Smithsonian Udvar Hazy IMAX screen will be IMAX-laser / 3D / 12-channel. (Downtown Washington DC Smithsonian IMAX Lockheed screen is 2D / IMAX 15-70)

what I like about the laser 3D glasses, is that a lot more light goes through to the eye, than say Dolby 3D glasses.

xbs2034
xbs2034 on October 31, 2015 at 5:29 pm

As for Dome IMAX, I saw a 45 min doc at the one in Cleveland. It certainly had some interesting things about the experience, but I felt a bit dizzy at a couple points during the movie and for about 5 mins after, plus had a small headache. Not sure I would want to see a two hour+ movie that way.

xbs2034
xbs2034 on October 31, 2015 at 5:20 pm

Well, since we know they had to get permits to do the construction needed for laser, their hand may have been forced. Perhaps January was the only construction window available for a while.

October would have been the perfect month to have done laser construction, they could have had it ready for both Star Wars and other big fall films Spectre and Mockingjay, and the October IMAX releases were not big commercial performers. And it’s disappointing that didn’t happen for whatever reason, but I would understand if at least it means we get laser early 2016 rather than late in the year.

I think the Udar Hazy in a Museum just outside DC will play Star Wars in laser IMAX 3D, but yeah, both that and Jordan’s are like 5 hours drive away from NYC (maybe ultra-devoted fans will do it, but I don’t think I’ve ever gone more than 90 mins away just to see a movie).

alpinedownhiller
alpinedownhiller on October 31, 2015 at 1:43 pm

And I think the DC and Philly are dome IMAX, which IMO tends to be weird for regular movies.

Going up to Jordan’s north of Boston would be the only option in the entire ultra-populated great NYC area.

alpinedownhiller
alpinedownhiller on October 31, 2015 at 1:42 pm

Still seems bizarre to me. To remove the 70mm right before SW just to get laser like 1-2 months sooner? No film is bigger than SW. Nothing is as impressive. Ridiculous decision.

digital3d
digital3d on October 31, 2015 at 1:08 pm

Exactly. Things like Captain America Civil War and Batman vs. Superman should look nice in laser, taking that both BvS and Civl War being partially shot in IMAX I rather see those (and all those other IMAX films in 2016) in laser than ONE Star Wars movie in 70mm.

If you REALLY want to see Star Wars in 70mm, there are places in DC and Philadelphia showing it. Those are a couple hours of driving away from NYC, but it might be worth it for the hardcore Star Wars fan. But don’t forget; Laser has “the same aspect as film and is the brightest 3D in world.” So it’s something that would be a nice add to Lincoln Square’s IMAX.

xbs2034
xbs2034 on October 31, 2015 at 12:52 pm

I agree.

All they’ve said before is IMAX plans to install the 70+ laser systems they’ve signed by the end of 2016 (already have the 15 or so they were planning for 2015), so if one of the issues is Lincoln has already removed their film equipment in anticipation of laser, I would prefer it if it means laser in January vs this time next year.

digital3d
digital3d on October 31, 2015 at 11:47 am

Honestly, I think Lincoln Square is doing the right thing. Laser will last much longer and be used much more often that something like 70mm. Yeah we gotta see Force Awakens in regular Digital 3D IMAX, but at least we can enjoy laser films a bit sooner at Lincoln Square.

ridethectrain
ridethectrain on October 23, 2015 at 3:32 pm

AMC Empire 25 Dolby Prime will be 2D, they said that Dolby 3D has to be installed, it dosen’t work with Real 3D

cetrata
cetrata on October 23, 2015 at 2:28 pm

I got a letter saying it was disneys decision about the 70mm.

Dear Chris,

 

This is a Disney studio decision.  The Lincoln Square cinema is in the process of upgrading to IMAX laser, but it will not be completed for Star Wars.

 

There will be a handful of 70mm prints in 2D.  Please visit our website or click here for a current list of the locations.

 

Regards,

David Keighley

CQO, EVP IMAX Corp.

theatrefan
theatrefan on October 21, 2015 at 3:37 pm

Just saw the IMAX list for Star Wars TFA, the nearest 15/70 IMAX Theatres for us is Philadelphia & Washington D.C. otherwise it’s just the plain 2K IMAX Digital here as they won’t have the laser system installed until next year. I wonder if Dolby Vision & Dolby Atmos at the Empire 25 will be better in the Prime auditorium for this film.

alpinedownhiller
alpinedownhiller on October 20, 2015 at 2:51 pm

Awfully jealous of the 96' IMAX laser screen at the Chinese.