Okay — here’s the situation and how I am choosing to deal with it. I have looked back in our database and I cannot find the comments that have been deleted or allegedly deleted. I am coming to this situation late so please forgive my ignorance of whether comments were posted or not posted. If they were posted and deleted, please accept my apology. As stated, Patrick and I did not delete them and would not have. I will remind our editors that we should make sure to keep the discussion on topic, but not to delete comments, if that is in fact what happened.
Since many of you have not met Patrick, Ken, Bryan, Michael, and myself, please let me assure you that we are working as hard as we can to produce a new website and make Cinema Treasures a place for EVERYONE to talk. All of us spend countless hours each day working on this site and it’s a shame that these issues sometimes cloud all of the wonderful information that is added daily and the amazing discussions going on in the other 23,000 pages. These kinds of situations also frustrate me to no end because they run counter to the spirit of the site. Yes, we have a comments policy and a user policy, but it is there to protect users, not to discourage free expression and debate. I am sorry if anyone has been upset by the issues discussed hereâ€"this is my first time trying to deal with it this morning.
If anyone would like to discuss this situation further, please email me. Your comments and concerns are deeply appreciated. In the meantime, I hope you will continue posting your comments about theaters, moviegoing, and, yes, even the films and the print quality and presentation of those films. While this is not a site to discuss movies per se, a small discussion about the merits of a film playing at a specific theater is not necessarily off topic. Like any community, we hope users will police themselves, keeping off topic conversations away, but understanding that a brief aside is not a criminal act. As for the Ridgewood, etc., we are trying to get a handle on what to do there. Adding message boards to the site certainly will help when we are able to do so.
Thank you all for your patience and understanding. This situation is not likely to be repeated anytime soon and if it is, I am only an email away. I also want to reiterate what a wonderful and knowledgeable group we have assembled here and it would be a calamitous shame to lose any of you.
Have a great weekend and thanks again for all of your contributions.
For the record, Patrick Crowley and I did NOT remove any comments from this page. We are investigating the situation, but we did not authorize any such deletions. I am investigating and will get back to you shortly. Please hold any comments, boycotts, etc. for a few minutes while I pour over the last few days and try to figure out what happened.
Okay folks, wrap up the squabbling. I’m in a comment deletion mood today and will start doing that for any and all antagonistic comments. This is a page for the Stamford Theatre — not for conflict.
If you posted a comment over the past few days and it’s gone now, that’s why. Have a good weekend …
I have already removed several comments posted over the past month and may revisit removing others. Unless you have court-sanctioned proof of malice, theft, etc., please DO NOT post innuendo or accusations about particular individuals. If you have a grievance, please take it to a court room.
Please note that a number of comments and responses to those comments have been removed from this page. The next person who attacks or antagonizes another user on this page will have their account suspended. Period.
Yes — our add-a-photo feature is currently offline, but we look forward to adding this capability in the near future. Users routinely post images on flickr or other sites and link them to theater pages and/or find other images and post links to them here.
Thanks for that impressive list of screenings Michael. I can only drool at the idea of seeing these films all in one month at the Southtown and on that screen:
12.02.1977 … 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY
12.09.1977 … LAWRENCE OF ARABIA
12.16.1977 … CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND
Please keep your comments focused on the subject at hand.
I want to also warn those of you who make unsubstantiated accusations about an organization that you are subject to our comments policy (which will be strictly enforced). Please remember as well that the relative anonymity of the Internet does not protect you from issues of libel.
As we note in our comments policy: “Unless you have court-documented proof of malice, bankruptcy, theft, vandalism, misappropriation of funds, drug use, violence, etc., do not submit any such accusations on this site. This site is not a venue for your private or public grievances against other people. If you wish to make such accusations, do it somewhere else. If you libel another user here, your account will be deleted.”
Thanks Peter — Patrick and I are still very much here and very active (largely behind the scenes). We do our best not to interfere on the theater pages, but we’ve gotten some complaints about this thread. We’re delighted to have you all here as well. :)
I’m Ross Melnick, co-founder of Cinema Treasures. I just wanted to thank you for sharing all of these memories with our users, but did want to remind you of our comments policy which is to stay on topic about the theater and not crowd the thread with a lot of non-theater related discussions. I hate to be a downer, but it’s getting harder to find information about the theater in here.
This is exactly the sort of bickering and endless nonsense that has required us to restate our comments policy. We value all of your contributions, but if this chiding and nastiness continues everyone involved will have their account suspended.
I would like to remind everyone of our user policy which you can read in our Terms of Use: “You are prohibited from posting or transmitting to or from this Site any unlawful, threatening, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, or other materials that would violate any civil or criminal law or the rights of others, including without limitation, laws against copyright infringement. Violation of these restrictions may result in limitations on your access to this Site.”
You are welcome to comment that one group is not preserving a theater properly or mishandling their responsibility, but when you cross over the line into insinuations of fraud, you are putting yourself at risk. Comments asserting such a charge were deleted because they violated our Terms of Use as they were made without proving any merit of the claim. We are saddened that we had to delete the comment, close this thread, and issue this statement. While political and philosophical disagreements are healthy and completely supported by Cinema Treasures, we will not let personal attacks on Mr. Haas and some of our other users continue. We tried our best to leave this page unaltered and let the conversation go on, but our users do not deserve this treatment and neither should this site become a place for personal attacks.
It is worth noting that the attacks on the Friends of the Boyd seem wholly out of balance with that group’s recent success in raising awareness about the theater’s plight and are part of the organization’s tireless effort to save the theater. In recent weeks, Friends of the Boyd has helped the theater receive important recognition from the National Trust for Historic Preservation and the support of many public officials.
Running Cinema Treasures is a pleasure and an honor for all of us and we support everyone’s right to free speech. But we have a user policy in place to protect our users and your ability to enjoy this site without specific pages being hijacked by arguments and personal attacks. Please, for the love of these venues, please try and keep the level of discussion civil, courteous, factual, and productive.
Mayor Nutter’s support is extremely valuable and appreciated. Saving a theater as large and important as the Boyd requires a mix of private and public capital, a devoted group of volunteers, and political will. Let’s hope Mayor Nutter’s support makes a crucial difference in saving this theater.
Make sure to read the comments about this article on page three of the LA Times website. Readers are incensed that the Vista and Mann Village aren’t included in this list. (Others were skipped over as well.)
Just to throw my two cents in here: anything related to the Cinerama Dome and/or Arclight Cinemas, past or present, is fair game. I love hearing about its past as well as its present and future. As someone who enjoys the Dome (and will be attending two shows in the Dome this month), I love hearing about what’s going on. Thanks Rizzo and everyone for keeping these theaters alive through your hard work, your wallets, and your memories.
Let’s put it this way (again): In my mind, it will always be the Loew’s 175th Street as well, but in 2008 it is The United Palace (I am making yet another change per Warren’s suggestion). As for the “Screw history” remark — as a historian, I’m uncomfortable with that as well. That is certainly NOT what this name change is all about. It’s about consistency, which is the hallmark of any database.
I’d like to think that since the building is no longer known as Loew’s 175th Street, then The United Palace is the more historically accurate name in 2008. I’m sorry this issue has caused so much debate. It won’t be the last disagreement, unfortunately. I wish these decisions could come without name calling and such upset feelings, but I know it’s based on deep love and affection for these theaters. Thanks for your input everyone. See you on another thread. :)
You are correct that there are aberrations here and there. How Ken and Bryan keep track of over 20,000 theaters boggles my mind. Sometimes, if users haven’t submitted updates to them, the names aren’t changed. I’ve just corrected the State in Los Angeles to reflect its last name (before becoming a church).
Okay — here’s the situation and how I am choosing to deal with it. I have looked back in our database and I cannot find the comments that have been deleted or allegedly deleted. I am coming to this situation late so please forgive my ignorance of whether comments were posted or not posted. If they were posted and deleted, please accept my apology. As stated, Patrick and I did not delete them and would not have. I will remind our editors that we should make sure to keep the discussion on topic, but not to delete comments, if that is in fact what happened.
Since many of you have not met Patrick, Ken, Bryan, Michael, and myself, please let me assure you that we are working as hard as we can to produce a new website and make Cinema Treasures a place for EVERYONE to talk. All of us spend countless hours each day working on this site and it’s a shame that these issues sometimes cloud all of the wonderful information that is added daily and the amazing discussions going on in the other 23,000 pages. These kinds of situations also frustrate me to no end because they run counter to the spirit of the site. Yes, we have a comments policy and a user policy, but it is there to protect users, not to discourage free expression and debate. I am sorry if anyone has been upset by the issues discussed hereâ€"this is my first time trying to deal with it this morning.
If anyone would like to discuss this situation further, please email me. Your comments and concerns are deeply appreciated. In the meantime, I hope you will continue posting your comments about theaters, moviegoing, and, yes, even the films and the print quality and presentation of those films. While this is not a site to discuss movies per se, a small discussion about the merits of a film playing at a specific theater is not necessarily off topic. Like any community, we hope users will police themselves, keeping off topic conversations away, but understanding that a brief aside is not a criminal act. As for the Ridgewood, etc., we are trying to get a handle on what to do there. Adding message boards to the site certainly will help when we are able to do so.
Thank you all for your patience and understanding. This situation is not likely to be repeated anytime soon and if it is, I am only an email away. I also want to reiterate what a wonderful and knowledgeable group we have assembled here and it would be a calamitous shame to lose any of you.
Have a great weekend and thanks again for all of your contributions.
Ross
Dear All,
For the record, Patrick Crowley and I did NOT remove any comments from this page. We are investigating the situation, but we did not authorize any such deletions. I am investigating and will get back to you shortly. Please hold any comments, boycotts, etc. for a few minutes while I pour over the last few days and try to figure out what happened.
Ross
Okay folks, wrap up the squabbling. I’m in a comment deletion mood today and will start doing that for any and all antagonistic comments. This is a page for the Stamford Theatre — not for conflict.
If you posted a comment over the past few days and it’s gone now, that’s why. Have a good weekend …
Ross
All,
I have already removed several comments posted over the past month and may revisit removing others. Unless you have court-sanctioned proof of malice, theft, etc., please DO NOT post innuendo or accusations about particular individuals. If you have a grievance, please take it to a court room.
Thank you,
Cinema Treasures
Please note that a number of comments and responses to those comments have been removed from this page. The next person who attacks or antagonizes another user on this page will have their account suspended. Period.
Yes — our add-a-photo feature is currently offline, but we look forward to adding this capability in the near future. Users routinely post images on flickr or other sites and link them to theater pages and/or find other images and post links to them here.
More images and a 360 VR tour can be found at this link.
Thanks for that impressive list of screenings Michael. I can only drool at the idea of seeing these films all in one month at the Southtown and on that screen:
12.02.1977 … 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY
12.09.1977 … LAWRENCE OF ARABIA
12.16.1977 … CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND
Sign me up.
Please keep your comments focused on the subject at hand.
I want to also warn those of you who make unsubstantiated accusations about an organization that you are subject to our comments policy (which will be strictly enforced). Please remember as well that the relative anonymity of the Internet does not protect you from issues of libel.
As we note in our comments policy: “Unless you have court-documented proof of malice, bankruptcy, theft, vandalism, misappropriation of funds, drug use, violence, etc., do not submit any such accusations on this site. This site is not a venue for your private or public grievances against other people. If you wish to make such accusations, do it somewhere else. If you libel another user here, your account will be deleted.”
This will be enfored.
Keep the sniping off these pages. Thank you.
Neither article noted a screen count, but I’m sure the Sunday morning recaps will have a near final total.
Peter — No, it’s not the same Patrick Crowley. Warren — thanks for letting me know about the Halsey. Off I go to check it out …
Thanks Peter — Patrick and I are still very much here and very active (largely behind the scenes). We do our best not to interfere on the theater pages, but we’ve gotten some complaints about this thread. We’re delighted to have you all here as well. :)
Hi Everyone,
I’m Ross Melnick, co-founder of Cinema Treasures. I just wanted to thank you for sharing all of these memories with our users, but did want to remind you of our comments policy which is to stay on topic about the theater and not crowd the thread with a lot of non-theater related discussions. I hate to be a downer, but it’s getting harder to find information about the theater in here.
Thanks for your understanding.
Best,
Ross
CyNdi — let it go …
Time to wrap it up people.
This is exactly the sort of bickering and endless nonsense that has required us to restate our comments policy. We value all of your contributions, but if this chiding and nastiness continues everyone involved will have their account suspended.
Seriously. It’s just not that funny anymore.
I would like to remind everyone of our user policy which you can read in our Terms of Use: “You are prohibited from posting or transmitting to or from this Site any unlawful, threatening, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, or other materials that would violate any civil or criminal law or the rights of others, including without limitation, laws against copyright infringement. Violation of these restrictions may result in limitations on your access to this Site.”
You are welcome to comment that one group is not preserving a theater properly or mishandling their responsibility, but when you cross over the line into insinuations of fraud, you are putting yourself at risk. Comments asserting such a charge were deleted because they violated our Terms of Use as they were made without proving any merit of the claim. We are saddened that we had to delete the comment, close this thread, and issue this statement. While political and philosophical disagreements are healthy and completely supported by Cinema Treasures, we will not let personal attacks on Mr. Haas and some of our other users continue. We tried our best to leave this page unaltered and let the conversation go on, but our users do not deserve this treatment and neither should this site become a place for personal attacks.
It is worth noting that the attacks on the Friends of the Boyd seem wholly out of balance with that group’s recent success in raising awareness about the theater’s plight and are part of the organization’s tireless effort to save the theater. In recent weeks, Friends of the Boyd has helped the theater receive important recognition from the National Trust for Historic Preservation and the support of many public officials.
Running Cinema Treasures is a pleasure and an honor for all of us and we support everyone’s right to free speech. But we have a user policy in place to protect our users and your ability to enjoy this site without specific pages being hijacked by arguments and personal attacks. Please, for the love of these venues, please try and keep the level of discussion civil, courteous, factual, and productive.
Thank you for your understanding.
Mayor Nutter’s support is extremely valuable and appreciated. Saving a theater as large and important as the Boyd requires a mix of private and public capital, a devoted group of volunteers, and political will. Let’s hope Mayor Nutter’s support makes a crucial difference in saving this theater.
Make sure to read the comments about this article on page three of the LA Times website. Readers are incensed that the Vista and Mann Village aren’t included in this list. (Others were skipped over as well.)
Images of the theater can be found at the M Park 4 website.
Yikes — this is the first I’m hearing about it. We’ll look into it. Thanks for letting me know.
Just to throw my two cents in here: anything related to the Cinerama Dome and/or Arclight Cinemas, past or present, is fair game. I love hearing about its past as well as its present and future. As someone who enjoys the Dome (and will be attending two shows in the Dome this month), I love hearing about what’s going on. Thanks Rizzo and everyone for keeping these theaters alive through your hard work, your wallets, and your memories.
Let’s put it this way (again): In my mind, it will always be the Loew’s 175th Street as well, but in 2008 it is The United Palace (I am making yet another change per Warren’s suggestion). As for the “Screw history” remark — as a historian, I’m uncomfortable with that as well. That is certainly NOT what this name change is all about. It’s about consistency, which is the hallmark of any database.
I’d like to think that since the building is no longer known as Loew’s 175th Street, then The United Palace is the more historically accurate name in 2008. I’m sorry this issue has caused so much debate. It won’t be the last disagreement, unfortunately. I wish these decisions could come without name calling and such upset feelings, but I know it’s based on deep love and affection for these theaters. Thanks for your input everyone. See you on another thread. :)
The name Loew’s has been dropped from the downtown LA State Theater. It is, of course, now listed as a previous or aka name.
You are correct that there are aberrations here and there. How Ken and Bryan keep track of over 20,000 theaters boggles my mind. Sometimes, if users haven’t submitted updates to them, the names aren’t changed. I’ve just corrected the State in Los Angeles to reflect its last name (before becoming a church).