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The Alamo Drafthouse has been talking about a NYC theatre for years – not sure what neighborhood they were looking but Williamsburg would seem ideal. The dine-in model has taken two forms: upscale and draft house – AMC has figured out a way to screw up both and I’m a little surprised they aren’t looking at exporting the model to a level at the Empire 25 (as far as I know anyway). Seeing how well the Alamo experience worked during its peak time (SXSW) I have to say it efficient, the food is pretty good (not great but good), the service is fast and not very distracting verses AMC which has over complicated a simple model. This project sounds pretty cool though.
Worth noting is the theatre closed with the RKO Century name. Cineplex Odeon had never put their logo/name on the place. I suspect this was due to the fact the theatre had been considered in renderings of the plaza circa it’s 1996 expansion. I had first come here in the 1990’s. I believe Cineplex also had run a theatre at the then Bergen Mall in the late 80’s/very early 90’s. There was also a drive in next to the GSP (which is now a parking lot off Route 4 – on the far right near Nordstrom).
Congrads – that’s a really great and ambitious plan at Reston Town Center – I hope somebody snaps some pics for Cinema Treasures – a National Amusements / Cineplex hybrid is something worth documenting!
Mike – the Hartford International Film Fest is in November – that’d be an awesome way to open a new plex.
I was a patron of the Colonial Twin and I never really found the employees to be a problem (I take these videos as dicking around when there wasn’t customers around – in between shows, ect). Truth is they could have provided perfect customer service but the place was falling apart, it was so musty I really stand seeing a movie there so we’d go elsewhere. Although my biggest regret is at least not seeing In & Out there (filmed right across the street, this and The Game were the last attractions – my guess is it was victim of the recently, enlarged Loews Wayne, which went from 8-14 screens, and Kinnelon – even though that theatre is truly an awful experience).
I can’t say Pompton’s downtown helped – it still isn’t a large draw. The place now seems to be working out okay – the top theatre is the home of the Smiling Rhino Theatre company and the rest of the building is used by Windsor School and as a youth center. If they ever get their plans going to revamp downtown Pompton Lakes, I hope a 4-8 screen boutique theater would come into town, it has potential. As for these videos – it nice to see the theatre back, I’m sure you guys sold my grandma and I popcorn at some point, probably during that summer where all you were showing was In The Line of Fire and Last Action Hero (we saw them 3 times!).
What’s the rest of the project look like? Downtown Hartford could certainly use a movie theatre and more shopping (granted there’s a few fun bars downtown, theatre and restaurants – there’s little else). I would be great somehow if Real Art Ways could have a presence downtown.
I’m surprised there’s out of market interest in Hartford downtown. Perhaps if there was larger retail commitment they could have attract a more national chain (AMC/Rave/Regal). A cinema grill would work – – an Alamo Drafthouse franchise + Hartford – – that’d be an amazing contribution to the cinema scene. (Full disclosure: the Hartford International Film Festival has been kind enough to support/show my work for the past three years, so I think very highly of the Hartford movie-going scene).
True but it sounds like they had either wildly successful builds like Skokie or really bad losers like Neonopolis and Abacoa.
Crown Theaters built a theatre out of their core market of CT that was a loser?! Shocking.
I’m not so sure it’s hurt sales in New York City – unless they provide data otherwise. But I laugh in one article about them not being in the restaurant industry – they’re experimenting with it with Fork & Screen / Cinema Suites / AMC Grill and Cinebarre (Regal’s co-venture).
The thing is several cities require this – the bigger chains have this information – why not disclose it? As for the smaller chains and independents I’m sure they could provide a reasonable estimation based on the size of the product they are selling if they had to, but I’m sure an uber-indie chain would be exempt.
I understand the conservatives thoughts about “government intrusion in the free market” but come on – you should have the right to have access to known information if you ask for it. Putting it on the menu will insure some moron at the snack bar, (or in management if your at Clearview Cinemas) – can’t say “I don’t know, they haven’t told me”. Other chain restaurants will provide estimates of their products in a separate guide from their menu.
Now if only Alamo would take over the AMC Fork & Screens, their concept is so much simpler and better (although I’m tired of eating their breakfast, lunch and dinner during South By)
In the 90’s I believe it was run by a national chain of mostly dollar theaters called Reel Theatres.
I’m also going to speculate some of the seats from here ended up at Dipson’s Bativia Mall (GCC style seats with the Pepsi logo scraped off – from when GCC switched over to coke right before AMC took them over).
I believe this closed as an unbranded National Amusements theatre.
Recently added Technocolor film-based 3D
Of coarse this is a shame, I remember a NFP trying to run the site and they couldn’t make a go of it. While I hate to see a theatre close, Frank Theaters is the only chain that I know of that have seasonal operations – mostly because aside from very few boardwalk attractions most Jersey shore towns close-up after mid-September till May (with the exception being Atlantic City which does steady convention business all year long) – although I’m sure the theaters do excellent business during the summer.
I’ve asked this before on another thread (apologies in advance) – are there any other theaters in other parts of the country, likely resort areas that close for months at a time?
Here’s some pics – View link – It looks like there are at least two bars – one on the first floor next to the “new” concession stand by Theaters 1 and 2 and one on the mezzine level for Theaters 1 & 2 (where they had a short lived cafe I believe for a few years). The Concession Stand of the Future looks like it has an impressive selection including flavored popcorn (the large is $9.75!) and includes the new Coke Freestyle machines.
The theater predates “Downtown Disney” – it’s original 10-screen configuration was an entertainment anchor of Pleasure Island, along with Planet Hollywood (both were off Pleasure Island proper, ie: allowing access to those 21 and under after 6PM without an adult). The theatre expanded to 24 screens with the opening of Downtown Disney West Side and got a second box office and entrance adjacent to the now defunct Virgin Megastore.
The theater is also getting a Fork & Screen “upgrade” (my guess is the original concession stand adjacent to Hyperon Wharf (a re-envisioning of Pleasure Island and open in 2013) will become McGuffins and the 5 right side theaters will become the Fork & Screen auditoriums). Perhaps other upgrades (as suggested by cgimovieman) will occur in the transition as AMC has opened a “Concession Stand of the future” (http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID513430.asp) – which sounds similar but more extensive version of what Drive-Ins have and the “express” concession General Cinema tried and abandoned in their newer plexes a few years before AMC bought them. AMC is doing weird stuff lately.
Can we name any other seasonal multiplexes? The Jersey shore is unique in towns really do shut down (except Atlantic City) for the winter – your lucky if a few arcades and maybe a restaurant or two are open at some beaches during the winter.
Here’s an interesting description of one of their theaters – which sounds like a work in progress never finished: /theaters/12337/
I’ve only ever been to their Towne 16 which I found odd because the aisle stairs of the stadium seating weren’t carpeted but the whole Handicap row at the median was. The stairs/aisle portion was just tiled.
They also were going to co-operate (with Muvico) the Fredricksville, VA theater Paragon opened with the Muvico brand. Several other sites they pitch never seem to pan out/open – and oddly they claim to have a development they’re working on in Syracuse, NY – an odd out of market expansion.
That and perhaps they want to operate theaters with a full running season, although Moorlyn had been upgraded to stadium seating years back. Perhaps here’s the place to ask this question: Franks seems to be (correct me if I’m wrong) a real estate investment company – there was a relationship with Hoyts who I believe used to run the Frank’s flagship the Towne 16 and the Strand. What was the deal with Hoyts/Frank Theaters? (they also interestingly enough finished a Hoyts in Bayonne – the South Cove Cinema 12 which seems to really only be a 10-plex). Hopefully we can pool our collective knowledge here and try to figure out what the deal is with Frank Theaters….
To the best of my knowledge the XD format was created in response to IMAX’s once strict policy of granting exclusive zone licenses to an exhibitor, this is why AMC runs all the IMAX theaters in Manhattan and Regal built converted an auditorium to RPX across from an AMC IMAX. AMC couldn’t get an IMAX at Younge & Dundas and thus they launched ETX. IMAX has since relaxed restrictions, if they are unable to get an exhibitor to agree to their terms they allow another exhibitor to build an IMAX (in Canada they couldn’t agree with Cineplex, who has its own Ultra AVX and had inherited IMAX sites from Famous Players – so they let AMC build an IMAX at Younge & Dundas after all).
Virtually all, I think except Carmike had IMAX installs or agreements with IMAX, rather telling is Cinemark had only film prints, which explained why their IMAX in Rochester was unable to get new bookings on break (I think Toy Story 3 came late, or not at all). My favorite description I remember reading was that a Rave Motion Pictures Fallen Timbers they kept saying they were building an “IMAX like screen” – an article then cited that negotiations with IMAX kept them from revealing if it was going to be IMAX branded or not, this became one of their first Rave Revue screens.
I suppose this goes to the core of what Cinema Treasures is – I like to think it’s mission extends from the excellent Cinema Treasures book by Ross Melnick and Andreas Fuchs and supplements the material there. With that said there are other sites appealing to theater operators (Film-Tech is a more appropriate venue, they have a classifieds thread). I’m all for the news feed displaying items, perhaps even memorabilia for classic theaters and information on how to purchase this – but the idea of randomly posting here and having it appear on the front page reflects poorly on the site, and perhaps they should solicit more members for moderator roles – even to chime in and get the conversation on some threads on topic.
I have written to the moderators using the proper form here about one hopeless thread for a multiplex that has over 1000+ entries most of which is off topic/tangental babel and banter amongst members, the theater is less than 4 years old! These conversations should be housed somewhere else. I would just hate to see the value of the site – which is at its core is a hobby (although I think someone could do a doctoral dissertation on exhibition, I would only take what’s here with a certain amount of other fact checking), be devalued by a lack of direction as much as I value its openness.
Cinema Treasures really needs some sort of editorial control – the same poster has made identical comments across several pages here.
I have no doubt AMC does it wrong based on two experiences at Essex Green (the first it took an hour to get popcorn – which was then cold, the second time, 40 minutes to get a drink and my glass of wine came before my friend’s coke). I’m not sold on the idea yet but if Gold Class or National Amusements' Lux Level were an option – I might give them a try.
I don’t mind expanded food concessions (the Scotibank Theatre in Toronto is wonderful during the film festival – you could survive for days with their multiple concession stands – when they’re open – another complaint I have). Perhaps AMC just has some kinks to work out but I found the whole thing to be a bit distracting, they need more compelling finger foods.
Another stat I like is in the corner of the page – since 2008 the price of a large popcorn at the AMC Jersey Gardens has gone up 48%?!?!