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yes they were. motion pictures or flickers
to use a term from the early years made their
debut in theaters in April 1896. the showing
at Koster and Bail’s Music Hall in NYC on the night
of April 23, 1896 was the 1st time films had
been projected on a screen in a theater
before a paying audience.
did this theater show movies from the day it
opened? or did it become a movie theater later.
the original name The Graham Opera House would
imply it did not open as a picture house as
they were called.
true porn produced 1968-1975 was on film so that
shouldn’t knock the Roxy out of the running for the
title of the oldest in continual operation movie
theater in the U.S.. many small movie theaters
around NYC about the same time for lack of a better term resorted to showing porn because that was all
they could get. so the title of the oldest in
continual operation movie theater since the day it
opened i think would be more meaningful if it didn’t
need to resort to showing porn to pay the rent.
just out of curiosity as the Roxie ever shown
“adult” films? if so that would knock it out
of the running. i don’t care if it was a 2nd
run neighborhood house or a a first run venue
i am looking for the oldest theater that opened
as a movie house and has been in continual
operation as such ever since.
just in case you were wondering the oldest in
continual operation movie theater in NYC is
the Alpine in Brooklyn which opened in 1921 and
has been in continual operation ever since.
were the Roxie and Victoria which are certainly
older than the 4 Star opened as movie theaters?
if opened as theaters showcasing something else
they don’t count. for instance the Victoria has
had many interesting lives in its 109 years but
has not opened continually as a movie theater
since the day it opened.
also the theater in Pryor,OK. is out of the
running as the oldest movie theater in the
U.S. in continual operation since the day it
opened since according to the info at top it
didn’t open till 1917, 4 years after the 4 Star.
i know we can’t preserve every old building
but if i am correct in stating that the 4 Star
is the oldest in continual operation movie
theater in the U.S. it should be preserved
as a landmark.
the last thing we need is another condo tower
for spoiled Silicon Valley yuppies. so since the
4 Star is I believe the oldest in continual
operation movie theater in the U.S. it should at
least be preserved as a revival house.
i thank stevenj and walterk for the info. i am going
under the assumption that one had to have a building
license to operate a movie theater. so i find it
bizarre that the only notice i have found of this
theater is the one on this page. i even contacted
the Bronx County Historical Society even they can’t
offer an additional info then what’s on this page.
from the fact it was in operation in July of 1910
i assumed it was in the Hub area as its known or
just out out curiosity what do you consider“walking distance”?
is this theater really in any eminent danger
of closing any time soon? people had been talking
about the eminent closing of the Ziegfeld
yearsssssssssssss before it actually happened.
people had been talking about the approaching
demise of the Ziegfeld countless years before it
actually happened. so i bet it will be the same
with this theater.
also i would hardly call the Cinema Village andthe Quad without “walking distance” of theSunshine.
Hello From NYC-
i was reading about early sound film and the
book stated the 1st feature length sound western
was In Old Arizona starring Warner Baxter. it
said the film opened at the Criterion Theater.
i can find no theater on the L.A. page that was
called the Criterion.
the last time i was in the IMAX auditorium was to
see The Jungle Book this past April. i thought the
projection and sound were A+ so why were renovations
i’m sure it was what we refer to in NYC asas “business fire”.
to patryan6019 i thank for your replies to
my posts. in fact your reply prompts another
question. i live in NYC and after a film’s
roadshow run it moved to another first run
theater and was made shorter by simply cutting
out the overture, intermission and exit music.
it was at the point a film moved to
neighborhood theaters around NYC that they
actually tweaked the film. which is where my
question comes in. if a film opened on a 2
performance a day roadshow run what was the
rationale behind cutting it so early. it was
still going to be shown only twice a day.
i apologize if i have already asked this question.
of all the films the Dome played on a roadshow
engagement were there any that did not have a
movie tickets in Manhattan are already too frigging
expensive. who in God’s name would want to spend $29
on a movie?
to patryan6019 thanks for the info. as i said
i saw TGSET twice during its 42 week roadshow run
at this theater but have no idea when. i might have
seen the 3hr. 19min. cut. both times. so if i
understand your info correctly the original
3hr. 45min. cut was used for a short period of
which prompts another question. the film was still
going to be on a 2 performance a day roadshow run
so what was the point of tweaking it? i wonder
what was in the approx. 26 mins. that was cut.
the cut of Cleopatra that opened at the Rivoli
June of 1963 was 4hrs. 5 mins. it was tweaked
while still in its roadshow run. but at least Fox
kept the trims from the premiere 4hr. 5min. cut
which looks !WOW! on blu-ray disc. i don’t suppose
United Artists kept the approx. 26 mins. of trims
i saw The Greatest Story ever Told twice during
its 42 week roadshow engagement “in Cinerama” at
the Warner Cinerama(Bway & 47). now though i
enjoyed the film I have no idea which cut I saw.
the cut on the blu-ray disc is 3hrs. 19mins..
so what cut did the Dome show? did it ever showthe longer i think it was 3 hr. 45min. cut? or didit only show the 3hr. 19min. cut?
i saw The Greatest Story Ever Told twice duringits 42 week roadshow engagement “in Cinerama” atthis theater. now while I enjoyed the film Ihave no recollection of what cut i saw. so wasthe only cut this theater ever used the 3hr. 19min. one used for the blu-ray disc? or was the longer3hr. 45min? cut ever shown during the 42 run?
what was the last 1st run engagement thistheater had?
to vindanpar- in answer to your pointed “why does
it matter in 2016” question the answer is simple.
i have a decent sized movie memorabilia
collection a big part of which are movie souvenir
programs. to which there are a number of the big
roadshow films which played the 7 Times Square
theaters i mentioned in my original post that i
have never come across a souvenir program for.
so though ever roadshow film i went to had a
souvenir program i wondered if some for whatever
to patryan6019- thanks for the info about Patton.
that was a big highly promoted roadshow film so i
am quite surprised it did not have a souvenir
program. i wonder what Fox’s reasoning was. also
for this theater i have never come across a
souvenir program for Cheyenne Autumn which opened
here Dec. of 1964 on a roadshow engagement.
i find it fascinating that this theater has been
in continual operation since it opened making it
the oldest movie theater in NYC. if it hadn’t closed
the Fall of 2012 or 2013 the Coliseum in upper
Manhattan would be the winner. it opened the in
Hello to All-
I thank everyone for their replies but the central
question I asked in my original post still hasn’t been answered. of the 7 theaters in the Times Square
area the studios used for most of their roadshow
engagements(Criterion,Loews State, RKO Palace,
Demille, Warner, Rivoli and Loews Capitol)does
anyone know of a roadshow engagement at one of those
7 theaters that did not have a souvenir program?
thanks in advance for any info.
to patryan6019- i have souvenir programs for
all the films you listed except Last Tango In
Paris, Young Winston, The Last Valley or Ryan’s
Daughter. in fact i don’t think LTIP had one.
and eventhough i saw TLV in its first run
engagement at the Rivoli twice i never remember
seeing one for sale. also i saw RD at the
Ziegfeld twice and again don’t remember a program
i am aware several other theaters in Manhattan
hosted roadshow engagements. in fact i went to
all the ones you listed. what i am trying to
find out is if any of the roadshow engagements
that played the 7 big theaters in the Times Square
area i listed in my original post did not have a souvenir program.