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Saw Titanic and the Dolby 4K presentation is pretty incredible. It was a long time ago, but I don’t recall seeing nearly this level of detail back in 1997 when I saw it here. The Dolby screen is also a good deal larger than the largest screen they had back in 1997.
Lines a bit shorter though haha. They were insane in 1997 here! Week after week wrapped way around the outer mall, way back, on some days almost all the way around to the far end of the back, crazy. Nothing ever like that other than for Star Wars.
The HDR was pretty good too, I don’t think the film version had quite this ability back then. Maybe some of the dark scenes at the end had some brighter areas seeming a little too bright, but whatever. Mostly it was all spectacular presentation all-around every which way. Maybe those who saw it in 70mm back when had something beginning to be like this, but this seems way beyond what I recall seeing in the 1997 original film release or later digital re-release. It did make it almost feel a little like it was something you hadn’t seen before (although maybe for those who did manage to see it in 70mm the difference would not be quite as huge, by ‘97 70mm was already pretty rare).
I wonder if they fixed the 3D glasses here.
(oddly, the AMC that was doing super well with those re-releases, sometimes all but selling out their 300+ seat, 56' screen auditorium, way far out in the NJ suburbs, seems to have had recently had AMC pull the classic release series from them and now AMC seems to be mostly showing in the tiny theaters and ones where the series did not do half (or even, at times, 1/10th) as well, baffling and annoying decision)
@bigjoe59 – part of it is just 20th anniversary. Lots of movies have been getting a re-release for some anniversary. Just over the last year they have given semi-wide release to titles like: The Godfather, Breakfast At Tiffany’s, The Princess Bride, Dirty Dancing, Carousel, Pretty In Pink, Close Encounters Of The Third Kind, E.T., Blade Runner and so on.
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@poland626 – that is not one I’ve been too in ages and ages. Didn’t they split the big screen a long while back?
@leowtyx – Yeah it’s not on digital (other than in the indirect way in that it let some theaters get away with dumping long time experienced projectionists, well sort of let them get away with it, although as it seems, maybe not quite so much).
And it was vibrating and rattling the roof and other parts of the structure like crazy.
I think they have the volume set way wrong at the IMAX here now (or at least on the day I saw Blade Runner) since it sounded way, way louder here than at the Jersey Gardens IMAX or even the Lincoln Square laser IMAX. There is no way the deep bass should have been much louder at Rockaway than at Lincoln Square! It was the loudest I’ve ever heard for any movie ever. So I think my comments about the sound for that movie that I wrote above were based on someone at this theater going nuts and just dialing up everything to 10 and way beyond the already very loud IMAX standards or something. It mean it seemed at least twice as loud as the other IMAX theaters, probably far more. It was nuts. Even out in the exit hall screaming at the top of our lungs we could not hear each other and that was just during the music at the end which wasn’t even as loud as some other parts of the movie.
I have to say digital projection has seemed to have become more random these days. Not so sure about at this Lincoln location since I’ve only been to the IMAX (which had a serious issue with the laser 3D glasses, at least last year, never did receive an update as to what they found and whether they truly fixed that or not, the AMC manager seemed to take it seriously, the IMAX techs only sort of) and the huge balcony screen (although even speaking of that screen there was some sort of bit of odd keystoning at the corners), but for instance at AMC Rockaway some screens are bright and sharp, others bright and 2k when they could be 4k, others now so dark they must be using a way, way underspec Xenon bulb or one months beyond the date it should have been tossed. At Jersey Gardens the IMAX and a couple big screens look great, but I saw something at a tiny, high numbered screen and despite the minute screen size it was still soooooo dark, Xenon bulb must’ve been months to years over used. They did fix the problem where two screens had had huge degrees of color fringing around every pixel, but they had it messed up like that for months, even a couple years on one screen until written complaints were sent to management by some.
Paramus AMC, from what I’ve seen, seems to be using decent Xenon bulbs, although I saw one screen where the projector was mis-aimed by over 5' so at least 5' or more at top had no image and at least 5' or more was projected onto the bare wall below the screen.
OTOH at the non-AMC theater near the football stadium in NJ, crisp, well focused 4k and bright, same at the few screens I peaked at the renovated Hanover AMC.
@Al Alvarez – the least people were at Jersey Gardens, more at Rockaway and Lincoln so it doesn’t fit audience size sound pattern at all.
I guess Rockaway must just have some of HS people who run the show going all Back To The Future and turning every dial to 10, calibration be damned. I mean it was crazy that it actually pumped out way more deep bass than even Lincoln and just overall was so much louder than at any other theater. Literally felt like I was getting turned inside out at some points the deep sound pressure was so intense. Even Interstellar at Palisades IMAX didn’t hit those levels. Even at the music at the end, even screaming at top of our lungs we could not even hear a word we were saying even part way down the exit.
Did anyone by any chance see Blade Runner 2049 at the same IMAX theater more than once, once near the beginning of the release and once near the end?
I was wondering if they redid the audio and set some things lower after complaints or whether theaters turned the volume down a bit or whether my local IMAX simply has set their volume way too high.
I saw that movie at the Rockaway IMAX and it was insanely loud and the deep bass was crazy, never experienced anything like it before, my legs were literally vibrating from the inside out for 30 seconds after some scenes. But then when I saw it at both Jersey Gardens IMAX and even here with the advanced system in neither of those places was it nearly as loud as at Rockaway (although still pretty loud) and the deep bass wasn’t nearly as insane at Jersey Gardens nor even here at this premier site (although you could certainly feel the bass here at Lincoln a good bit).
So I was wondering whether at some point they tuned the volume or re-balanced things or something for Blade Runner 2049 or whether all IMAX theaters went to a new volume standard sometime recently or whether the Rockaway IMAX simply has some people there going in and resetting things to max volume even if that is louder than IMAX spec or whether their auto-calibrate system has been broken. It was simply way louder there across all frequencies even ultra deep bass, in particular, and sub ultra deep bass than even here at Lincoln. Way louder.
Screen 16 (tied for third largest after the IMAX and Dolby, perhaps around a 56'? 1.85:1 screen) had been out of focus to varying degrees (one day it was actually to the point it looked like DVD and then they got it to poor 1080 Cable detail and then to decent 1080p blu-ray level) for a little while but now seems to be 100.000% perfectly focused plus the 4k seems to be working too so it’s looking very sharp now and much sharper and more detailed than any blu-ray.
They also seem to have fixed the Fathom events screen calibration levels (which they show on this screen), for quite some time after the projector broke their the Fathom stuff had had crushed blacks and a bit strong contrast and over-saturation and then it was instead a bit gray blacks and low saturation but then they got it back to perfect again how it used to be some good while ago with dark blacks but no details crushed away and everything looking perfectly set, sadly no sooner did they do that than they seem for some horrible reason to have stopped the Fathom TCM event showings here even though they tend to get the best crowds for many of them here. I mean they literally get sometimes 3x-4x or more people than at the other regional AMC’s for these events.
Not quite sure. I did finally see one at the Dolby here (Screen 9). I haven’t seen one at the GS Dolby (Screen 3), only peaked in twice (once from way down below while something was playing and once from a more normal spot with nothing playing, not really good looks). The GS has more seats, just going by the seating chart you see a lot more. I don’t know that it felt bigger screen wise, although I’d guess it probably has to be with that many more seats across (although seating can be misleading at times, Jersey Gardens would have an 80' if you went by seating but it seems to have the same 65' or so screen as GS IMAX does). When I peaked in at the GS Dolby again I had just come out of their IMAX (Screen 2) auditorium, so that might have made the screen seem a bit smaller, since it was comparing it to tied for the largest in all of Northern and Central NJ.
As far as Blade Runner 2049, I didn’t find the seat vibration here objectional at all for the first half of the film, you could easily feel it a few times, but no big deal, even cool. The last half had some parts where if you had your head against the headrest and back firmly pressed into the seat it probably would’ve been a bit annoying or even uncomfortable at times and knocked a vertebrae or two, but simply sitting forward for those parts made it OK as what came up from the bottom part of the seat wasn’t so bad, sometimes even cool when not done too much. And actually once you did lean forward for some parts, I have to say that it actually kinda blasted you less than the IMAX (Screen 8) here did for this movie where it felt like it was reorganizing your entire innards with intense and weird bass pressure the likes of which I’m not sure I’ve felt before. The IMAX here showed the film SO incredibly loudly. The bass was pulverizing and actually hit you in some ways more uncomfortably than at the Dolby screen here (certainly so long as you just leaned a trace forward during a few bits at the Dolby and especially didn’t have your head on the headrest). When the car drove by in front of his house at the IMAX here it was deafening to kinda over the top levels. I also saw it at Jersey Gardens IMAX and the volume was really, really loud and yet not nearly as loud as Rockaway ran it and your entire brain and innards didn’t feel scrambled inside out. At Rockaway IMAX after a few parts my legs were actually sort of vibrating from the inside out for another 60 seconds after the scene ended, really weird, they had the volume and bass cranked so loud. Nothing like that weird stuff at all at Jersey Gardens (which was by no means quiet, it was IMAX loud).
Anyway despite my fears above based upon what some had said about Blade Runner 2049 and Dolby, I found that simply sitting a bit forward during a few bits made the film perfectly fine at the Dolby here (I guess if you had your back pressed way into the seat and head on the headrest some parts would’ve been out and out uncomfortable but it was easy enough to just lean a touch forward for those parts and avoid a lot of the back and virtually all of the head shaking and what remained came through the seat base and that really wasn’t any problem, probably even let them tune the audible range ultra bass down a bit lower and at times it was kinda cool, sometimes added to it all, sometimes a trace distracting and overdone but really no big deal at all, again with the bit of a lean forward). It was easily the sharpest presentation I’ve seen of Blade Runner 2049 too. I actually wish they had kept it showing on there this week as I’d have checked it out again.
On another note, Screen 10 here has become super dim, can barely make out many details. They run a lot of the big, new release Real 3D showings on that screen. I’m surprised that they have let the Xenon bulb run to such totally burned out levels or replaced it with one way too small for the screen.
cool, looks like it is the only one in the whole Tri-State area that still has Blade Runner 2049, really the only big screen of any sort that showing it (kinda of a shame, such an awesome movie)
So a good theater? what is #8 like?
It has reserved seating but I’m not sure how to judge it compared to say the standard AMC Rockaway design.
I can’t recall but is it #6 or #7 that is the one ultra tiny little shoebox theater and screen here?
What are screens #12 and #13 like here now?
“The theatre building will occupy approximately 50,000 square feet with two auditoriums of 800 seats each, two with 650 seats each and two with 500 seats each for a total seating capacity of 3,900.”
Wow, 6 screens pulling 3,900 seats! Been ages since six screens pulled more than about 1,200 seats.
does anyone knows anything about what screens #8 and #4 are like here now?
@RHETT52 –Hmm looks like Clifton is not using #12 though for the Princess Bride TCM but #7. I know #8 and #9 are the only two screens there large at all, but do you know what #7 is like? Being next to the biggest two maybe it is their second largest size at least? It’s not one of the little shoeboxes is it?
Do you think they’d get a nice crowd really into it at this theater?
Not sure any of the TCM options for this sound great in the region since the inexplicable pull from Rockaway.
@RGETT52 – ah man sorry to hear about the messed up TCM showings here. Now even more annoyed they are not showing Princess Bride 30th at Rockaway. They have a huge screen there for TCM and it’s always packed for movies of this mid to late 80s hit of this sort. The other place that also gets huge crowds for type of movie is the New Brunswick location, so go figure, the two screen AMC decides to not show it on are…. Rockaway and New Brunswick! NB area at least has a none AMC that will take over the crowds. But Rockaway area has nothing good, Wayne is old with tiny screens and few show up for the 80s stuff there. Hanover is small and they don’t get as good crowds for this stuff either. Then Paramus has it but they get lesser crowds for this stuff than Rockaway does too and they seem to have stuck in #6 which I think might the single tiny little shoebox they have there (unless #7 is the shoebox?).
I bet Rockaway would’ve pulled in something like 60+ for the 2PM and 180 for the 7PM on Sunday for that title, mayne 220+ if they just had one showing. There is no way in the world what they are using the screen for instead will do better than that. Wayne and Hanover will probably be luck to get as many as 20 for any showing. And the Rockaway TCM screen is so much better, at least 50' wide and it’s really tall so it plays 1.85:1 aspect ratio stuff at a huge scale. They also finally got the color levels right for TCM stuff again so it’s neither crushed shadows nor faded and pale and they also have the focus spot on there now at that screen and 4k going. (annoyingly looks like they also pulled Casablanca from Rockaway too). I just don’t get how AMC does their scheduling. They literally put stuff in all the screens where it does worst and don’t on the screen where it would do best.
Wow, can’t believe they pulled 30th Anniversary Princess Bride from this theater. This theater ruled for 80s films like that, always packed. Instead AMC puts it at Garden State where 80s stuff gets middling crowds, who cares if that is the flagship theater and there is a high population density there is the people there don’t for this stuff as much?, and Wayne where they get poor crowds for that sort of stuff?
Not like anything is even doing that well in the theaters and they can’t even fit in a single one of the Sunday showings at Rockaway?
I remember once before Rockaway tried to back out of one of the Fathom 80s movies of this exact sort and then they brought it back at the last second and it was practically sold out even despite getting less advertising because of that.
Whoever runs the theater doesn’t seem to get what sorts of 80s stuff this region goes nuts for and what it doesn’t.
This was one of the few of the Fathom events I had actually heard people talking about all over and they pull it.
Stinks, since the screen they run Fathom on here is so much better than at the other regional theaters too and this theater has the best, most fun crowds for 80s movies.
Blade Runner 2049 has so much sub bass that even the IMAX theater here had the seats and floor and ceiling literally vibrating and shaking. I think they kinda overdid the sub bass a touch for this movie. It was to the point that it actually took you out of the movie a bit at times. Felt like someone had speakers set to 8 across the board and then went over to the sub amp and turned it to 10, then removed the stop and dialed it to 12 and then went to the sub subwoofer and set it to 10 removed the stop and set it 18. Not sure I can recall a movie that ever set the balance that much towards subs and had things that should not have insane amounts of bass, have insane amounts of bass.
Wasn’t so fond of that and at times the score seemed to mostly just hitting a few ultra bass notes that you felt as much as heard.
Otherwise, awesome movie.
Yeah the laser projection itself is fantastic and the seats are very comfortable.
(if you didn’t try sending in a note about overly loud volume too, every bit helps)