AMC Loews Paramus Route 4 Tenplex

260 E. Highway 4,
Paramus, NJ 07652

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Christophersepp
Christophersepp on May 29, 2007 at 11:47 pm

A lot of the above posters have some really good ideas in relation to what the Tenplex could become. Now, if only the borough would step in to foster those kinds of cultural investments, instead of more retail. Remember, even though AMC owns the property, it’s still ruled over by Paramus. In other words, if they don’t want it zoned for retail, they can step in and say it’s not happening. I still don’t know how the Bergen Mall would extend across the road, but that’s what I’ve heard. I’m not sure how true that is. The Tenplex might not be as nice as it once once, but it’s still far from a dump. In relation to the above comment about families frequenting the GSP theater, most won’t. Everyone I’ve spoken to who has children has said they will probably go to the Secaucus 6 or 8 instead of the mall due to the ease of parking and lack of traffic. I’m sure the GSP theater will do best with the teens who frequent the mall, as spoken about above, with their neverending cell phone conversations and talking through the movies. I know the Willowbrook AMC, while not actually connected to the mall, doesn’t get the amount of families as the older theaters, like Cinema 46 did. It’s all teens and preteens there, which is why I avoid it like the plague. Peter, thanks for the link to AMC investor relations.

JeffS
JeffS on May 29, 2007 at 8:40 pm

I sent a message to the administrators to change it to “Closed”

JeffS
JeffS on May 29, 2007 at 8:34 pm

I said that last week. It appears to be an administrative function.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on May 29, 2007 at 8:27 pm

Someone should change the status of this theater to closed…it’s not open anymore.

Michael Furlinger
Michael Furlinger on May 29, 2007 at 8:24 pm

This is a dead issue..this will never reopen…

JeffS
JeffS on May 29, 2007 at 8:16 pm

Pete said: “…and lose a fortune :)”

And he’s correct. Sorry, but it IS all about the money, and good money isn’t going to be thrown out for bad. Not by a company like AMC.

Folks, the building’s 40 years old! You can be sure it has infrastructure problems by this point in time. It would cost a million+ dollars to tear away the other sections and refurbish it to a single screen house. And for what? Art films? Where is that money going to come from? You had “Cinema 35” (Rt 4 west, just before Rt 17) on the other side of the highway for years, it didn’t survive. It showed films like this.

I’m sorry to sound so negative, but that’s the realities of the economics.

And how is this expansion of the Bergen mall going to stretch around the back of the Shop Rite, and go down a hill to connect with the old Texplex property? There is a significant change of grade between those two lots. Don’t forget the auto dealer there too, and Toys R Us.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on May 29, 2007 at 7:52 pm

John J. Fink said:

With that said, I think Paramus could support an art theater.

The Mall Theater in the Bergen Mall was a top quality art house for many years. I remember seeing “To Sir, With Love” there in 1967 and having to sit separately from the rest of my family because the place was so crowded.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on May 29, 2007 at 7:35 pm

You’re right, Mr. Fink. What about a cinema/museum hybrid? That would be really cool.

John Fink
John Fink on May 29, 2007 at 7:30 pm

AMC will never reopen the tenplex – it will just never happen, unless this thing becomes part of a larger project (such as the redevolopment of the Bergen Mall). Secondly, as much as I liked the Tenplex back in the Cineplex Oden days (I never visted in the RKO days) – the new theater is pretty good – one of the best multiplexes around in terms of screen size and comfort. It’s an improvement over the current state of the Tenplex. Although I think it’s location will bring in more kids with “nothing better to do” which is never good (look at the morons walking around GSP with their cell phones and imagine them in a cinema)

With that said, I think Paramus could support an art theater. 10 screens is maybe about 5 or 6 too many for an art theater (given these large theaters) so I think if the original 5 were some how saved, including Theater 1 and the remander of the building featured a bar, a cafe, or some additional venue with live performance, and maybe an art gallery – that would be the way to go. In fact thats something Paramus should look in to, aquiring the building as an art theater/alternative space – almost like SOPAC in South Orange or Real Art Ways in Hartford, CT. AMC has no interest in this kind of thing, as nice as the new 16-plex is they lack the inovation to offer these kinds of ammenities. Someone like National Amusements (which has the best theater in the county – Edgewater Multiplex, which has a decent track record of showing indie films – I saw Y Tu Mama Tombien, The Host, Notes on a Scandal, Waitress, and several other indies there) might collaberate with a non for profit on this type of center. But look at the new upscale plexes that AMC has opened, none of have lounges with full kitchens in them like National’s Cinema De Lux sites do. Regal and AMC aren’t interested in this sort of business model whereas National, Marcus Theaters, Landmark, Mann Theaters, and Muvico are looking on ways to drag people out of the house by making movie going a high end experience. That’s the way to save the tenplex, completly set it apart from the sixteen at GSP.

PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on May 29, 2007 at 7:25 pm

…and lose a fortune :)

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on May 29, 2007 at 7:12 pm

I agree with you. It would be interesting if I would go to the Route 4 theater when it gets restored to its single screen glory. Sell all the other equipment except the 70mm/35mm projector, then play films in all sound and film formats known to man. Keep the tickets cheap (at opening day prices when the theater was first introduced in 1965), make the seats stadium seating rather than the old-style seating, and show nothing but classic trailers and films, not that AMC moviewatcher crap!!! For concessions, they should bring out the goodies: popcorn, candy, and soda as opposed to the massive food menu that AMC provides. And no Moviewatcher rewards, that takes up a lot of time and money!!! Online ticketing is a must as shows might get sold out. Rename it AMC Route 4 Palace.

photoman1001
photoman1001 on May 29, 2007 at 6:12 pm

Sorry I over reacted. What AMC should do is: take down theaters 6-10, remove the center divider down 4 and 5 and make it one theater again. It would have true stadium seating, remember it was a balcony! Remove 2 and 3 and make theater one big again like you said. That would be a partial circle of life. That would be a true “Showplace”. We have an old theater up here where I live and they play OLD movies there every now and again, they sell out every time.

JeffS
JeffS on May 29, 2007 at 6:10 pm

I did forget to say that the Stanley Warner Rt 4 SINGLE SCREEN Theater WAS a showplace in every sense of the word. Even when it was a triplex it was still a showplace. For me it lost it when the other theaters started being added on.

JeffS
JeffS on May 29, 2007 at 6:06 pm

Yes, Pete, you are partially correct. AMC is going for the “showplace” appeal. Look at the Loews’s Jersey. That’s “showplace appeal”. No different then as it is today. AMC I’m sure feels the old stand-alone location isn’t worth putting any money into. It is after all a 40 year old building that has seen it’s glory days, and served everyone well. The mall has more traffic, and coupled with the new food wing, will attract families. I can understand their logic. Money people, it’s all about the money.

JeffS
JeffS on May 29, 2007 at 6:02 pm

No, the words were properly chosen from the AMC point of view (not mine). I’ve been going to the Tenplex since 1968. I remember the single Cinerama screen. I sat in row 1 to be given the headache of my life from watching 2001. I saw lots of movies there, and enjoyed them all. I saw Star Wars there on day one, show one. I have the same memories you do.

To AMC the place is a stand-alone, old, dump.

And yes, AMC is ONLY interested in the money. I keep wondering why people forget that EVERYTHING is only about the money. AMC feels they will more than recoup their investment in the new location, and you know what? They probably will.

We no longer live in a world where a film plays exclusive in one theater for 3 months or more before going into general release. Todays it’s break it out on 5,000 screens all at once and make it all back in two weekends. Sad, but true. Let’s not also forget the quality and kind of movies being made either.

PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on May 29, 2007 at 5:58 pm

I’m pretty sure JeffS was being sarcastic about the “newer = better” mentality. If they fixed up the Tenplex (mostly by restoring Theatre One to its original size), it would be a “showplace”.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on May 29, 2007 at 5:55 pm

On days when the mall closes, the only place hopping will be the AMC and the restaurants. ‘Nuff said.

photoman1001
photoman1001 on May 29, 2007 at 5:49 pm

I prefer Schneider lenses myself. You should watch your choice of words. The old ‘dump’ was a showplace. I remember it was good enough for special screenings of movies. When it was ran by real movie companys, it had curtains over the screens, colored lights, intermissions etc.. It wasnt run like a fast food Restaurant that played movies on the side. So is AMC’s new theater a ‘showplace’ or just a ‘cash cow’. Oh thats right… its attached to a mall.. hum.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on May 29, 2007 at 5:46 pm

my bad, ticket prices at the GS16 are a bit more pricey than Rockaway and the old tenplex.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on May 29, 2007 at 5:43 pm

Amen to that, Jeff S. Same goes for the Rockaway 16, which brough movies back to Rockaway after a five year absence during which Clearview dominated the box office in that area with Parsippany. I hope AMC makes better multiplexes to replace those that don’t have the amenities of AMC’s newer theaters, and match the prices up with AMC’s standards. When I checked out the pricing for the AMC in Paramus, the ticket prices remain the same for regular films, but digital 3-D pricing has come in, which is a bit more expensive but cheaper and better than IMAX 3-D. My dad went to see Star Wars the weekend it opened at the Tenplex since there was no other theater playing it. Back then, the film played on a giant screen before it was chopped up in the early 80’s to what it was today. I hope they sanitize the building years after it’s closed down just in case if they want to renovate the theater into a cheap theater. I think Clearview should buy that theater like they did with the Ziegfeld and show classic movies. It should be called Clearview Bijou Route 4 10. ‘Nuff said.

JeffS
JeffS on May 29, 2007 at 5:31 pm

I’ll tell ya, if you go to the link Pete listed, and click on the press release for the Paramus 16, it does sound like a nice place. Mind you, I’m not about to go there anytime soon, but it does sound very nice. Sounds too like they made an effort to keep one auditorium with a large (42 feet) wide 20 foot high curved screen. In fact they claim curved screens in all rooms.

Personally I disagree on the ICSO lenses, I think Schneider lenses are better. But that’s just me.

It becomes obvious what AMC was shooting for. A “showplace” vs. a 40 year old “dump”. I’m sure they achieved it. Time marches on People…

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on May 29, 2007 at 5:29 pm

So is “Silence is Golden®”, another popular AMC trademark used to quiet down those teens with cell phones and crying babies with that annoying trailer played before the feature presentation one at most AMC theaters. I prefer the original one with the flying eagle cartoon over the soundwave preview. I still miss the classic Cineplex galaxy trailer with the coliseum-like logo before each movie at the tenplex. Was this theater one of Cineplex’s highest grossing theaters (along with the Ziegfeld and the CityWalk in CA)? I guess it was and was also a top grosser for the RKO and Stanley Warner chains and still survived to its Loews Cineplex and AMC days.

JeffS
JeffS on May 29, 2007 at 5:21 pm

“Experience the Difference®”

Don’t ever say those words… They’re trademarked by AMC! :)

PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on May 29, 2007 at 2:40 pm

Christopher:

Go to this page: http://www.investor.amctheatres.com/releases.cfm and you’ll see a couple of corporate phone numbers in the communications department. I’m sure that if your potential tenant calls, they will direct his call to the appropriate department. If they haven’t yet removed any of the equipment or seats, he could be in good shape. If they have removed them, it will be much more costly to re-equip (figure a half million for used equipment and used seats).

As for knowing it was closing, I’m not sure where I first heard of it. We in the theater business heard about it as soon as they began negotiating years agao to construct the new facility, since that affects the ability to book films in the area. I can’t imagine that it was never discussed at any of the planning board meetings and reported on.