Ziegfeld Theatre

141 W. 54th Street,
New York, NY 10019

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PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on December 15, 2006 at 7:22 am

Yes, Bill, but in those cases, the movie wasn’t opening only 10 days later on 7000 screens, including the one that’s now charging $25. The high ticket for the real roadshow days was for the exclusivity of it.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on December 15, 2006 at 6:59 am

I’m going Tuesday night. I hesitated a little when I heard about the $25 ticket, but special engagements and roadshows (even though “Dreamgirls” isn’t really a roadshow) were always higher priced than regular runs. In 1968 my dad paid $4 each for two tickets to “2001” at the Capitol, and that was probably more than double a regular ticket price, same as “Dreamgirls” is now. I recall the ad for a 1968 New Year’s Eve showing of “Funny Girl” at the Criterion charging $5 – that REALLY seemed like a lot of money to me back then.

Vito
Vito on December 15, 2006 at 6:45 am

When I commented to an industry insider, “Are they kidding with this roadshow crap?” He smiled and said, “Let’s just see what happens”

DavidM
DavidM on December 15, 2006 at 6:08 am

I believe in the maxim, “Be careful what you wish for”. Perhaps the “studio bean counters” will also come to the conclusion that a $25 ticket price warrants a theater befitting such a price.

Inflation being what it is, I’d pay the extra price if I could have a theater like the Rivoli in which to see a movie. I’m very tempted to take advantage of an American Airlines award ticket to see Dreamgirls at the Cinerama Dome.

JeffS
JeffS on December 15, 2006 at 5:01 am

“all performances for tonight, Saturday and Sunday are completely SOLD OUT even at $25 a ticket!”

“That is good news…so at $25/ticket”

Oh yea, that’s “great news”

This just means the studio bean counters will come to the conclusion that since even $25 isn’t too much to charge, why not just charge $20 for a regular performances as “people will pay”.

Be careful what you wish for folks.

ErikH
ErikH on December 15, 2006 at 4:25 am

The Times ad also states that the Monday performance is sold out. I will be going tonight—-even if the film isn’t perfect, I expect that it will be an exciting evening. The stage version was electrifying—-I saw “Dreamgirls” during its Boston tryout in 1981 and the audience response to a certain number at the end of the first act was something I have never forgotten.

I was surprised that the Times selected A.O. Scott to review “Dreamgirls.” When he slammed “The Producers” last year, he made it very clear that he wasn’t a fan of Broadway musicals in general or film adaptations of same. Dargis or Holden would have been more appropriate given Scott’s bias.

JodarMovieFan
JodarMovieFan on December 15, 2006 at 4:04 am

That is good news…so at $25/ticket X1131 seats X 5 shows; Fri night, two shows each Sat and Sun, it should gross about $141,375! I can forsee the Variety headline now..DREAMGIRLS DOES BOFFO IN GOTHAM! :)

Luis Vazquez
Luis Vazquez on December 15, 2006 at 3:30 am

I read the review in the Times this morning and I also think the critic (A.O. Scott) is a moron! Believe it or not, his only real criticism was with the music! I saw the original Dreamgirls on Broadway and the revival and the music is magnificent. When there was a special one night only benefit perfomance of Dreamgirls on Broadway a few years back there THREE standing ovations during the show when three songs were sung: One Night Only, We’re Your Dreamgirls, and I’m Telling You I’m Not Going!

I have tickets for Sunday evening the 17th. I organized a group of 20 friends to see it and it’s going to be a great night at the theater. According to the full page ad in today’s Times, all performances for tonight, Saturday and Sunday are completely SOLD OUT even at $25 a ticket!

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on December 15, 2006 at 2:56 am

I don’t know that the Times' reviewers are idiots… but they are certainly, um, finicky.

Mikeoaklandpark
Mikeoaklandpark on December 15, 2006 at 1:55 am

Dreamgirls received great reviews excpet for thr Times. What a bunch of idiots they have for reviewers. They were the onlyones who did’t like the new braodway musical Mary Poppins.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on December 14, 2006 at 4:14 pm

that’s amazing! They should bring back Gandhi at the theater next year for its 25th anniversary!!!

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on December 14, 2006 at 3:53 pm

It was an all-day-and-night storm on a Friday in February 1983. It was classified as a blizzard, with high winds and zero visibility. Which made it all the more amazing to see a sellout crowd at the Ziegfeld for “Gandhi”, which had already been playing there for more than two months.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on December 14, 2006 at 3:50 pm

Why was it the biggest snowstorm of 1983? I guess there was a lot of feet of snow that would pile up the Ziegfeld if it were a drive-in!!!!

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on December 14, 2006 at 3:15 pm

“Gandhi” did extremely well at the Ziegfeld. I saw it there 7 times and several of those were sell-out shows, including the night of the biggest snowstorm of 1983.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on December 14, 2006 at 1:26 pm

According to an earlier post, “Gandhi” played from 12/8/1982-7/15/1983, making it the second longest running movie at the theater due to its popularity following its surprise Oscar win. Too bad “E.T.” didn’t play at that theater until this year.

William
William on December 14, 2006 at 1:15 pm

The longest Roadshow at the theatre was “Ryan’s Daughter” with 33 weeks in 70MM, which opened on Nov. 10th 1970 (Premiere Nov. 9th). “Gandhi” opened at the theatre Dec. 8th. 1982 in 70MM. The next 70MM print in the theatre was “Staying Alive” on July 15th 1983. Was there anything else booked in between or did “Gandhi” play the whole time?

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on December 14, 2006 at 12:36 pm

But will it make money? There are other interesting movies coming out during Christmas that will not play at the Ziegfeld: A Night at the Museum (box office hit) is the most notable. Last year, King Kong and Narnia were big. This year, expect the box office to dip a bit even though there is only two fantasy movies (Eragon and CHarlotte’s Web) as well as one drama (The Pursuit of Happyness) that are only a few films to check out. Too bad the new James bond didn’t play longer than other films in the past at Ziegfeld. By the way, which movies were the longest-running at the theater? I’d say Gandhi and THat’s Entertainment, along with the Star Wars prequels.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on December 14, 2006 at 12:35 pm

But will it make money? There are other interesting movies coming out during Christmas that will not play at the Ziegfeld: A Night at the Museum (box office hit) is the most notable. Last year, King Kong and Narnia were big. This year, expect the box office to dip a bit even though there is only two fantasy movies (Eragon and CHarlotte’s Web) as well as one drama (The Pursuit of Happyness) that are only a few films to check out. Too bad the new James bond didn’t play longer than other films in the past at Ziegfeld. By the way, which movies were the longest-running at the theater? I’d say Gandhi and THat’s Entertainment, along with the Star Wars prequels.

Vito
Vito on December 14, 2006 at 12:12 pm

David you make a good point.I only hope IMAX lasts, it is very expensive to install and the prints are expensive to make, upwards of $20,000 and double that for 3-D.
I wanted to add a comment on my last post.
I just wanted to say that Dreamgirls is a magnificent picture
with spectacular performances and music, just not what I would consider best of the year. It will no doubt follow Chicago’s lead and win a bunch of Oscars, perhaps even best picture, but then I did not think Chicago was the best picture in the year it one either.

DavidM
DavidM on December 14, 2006 at 11:41 am

I do somewhat agree with Vito. If Dreamgirls were a true Roadshow it would premiere tomorrow at the three theaters its going to play in (and perhaps a few others), running there for a few months prior to opening in wide release. That, unfortunately is not going to happen.

I am pretty confident I am not alone in that I long for a long gone movie going experience. It doesn’t exist in too many places anymore. I must say that seeing Happy Feet on the IMAX screen really impressed me. I do know that when I sit down at the Ziegfeld on Sunday, December 17 I will not have to sit through commercials, slides and trailers. I hope the presentation will be great and the curtains will be closed upon my arrival.

Will this inspire more studios and theater owners to consider a true Roadshow rollout? I sincerely hope so and only time will tell. In the meantime, this week’s show will contain no ads, trailers, etcetera. A reserved seat and a program will have to suffice for now. I intend to go to the movies and have some great fun.

I look forward to the posts here between tomorrow and Sunday.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on December 14, 2006 at 11:10 am

Wasn’t Marooned the only roadshow to ever play at the Ziegfeld.
I believe everything else was advance tickets general seating.
And why did they roadshow that?

Vito
Vito on December 14, 2006 at 10:56 am

This is NOT a roadshow. It’s just a movie being played twice a day.
accompanied by a booklet. I saw it and thought it was very good but hardly worth $25.00 I’ve even heard some say “best of the year”, sorry, not even close. Roadshow….Please, don’t get me started.

William
William on December 14, 2006 at 7:59 am

The print that I ran looked very nice.

Mikeoaklandpark
Mikeoaklandpark on December 14, 2006 at 7:55 am

Well it will be interesting to see if the film was shot in scope since it definately was not shot in 70mm. Poor Bill Condon got a slap in the face today not getting a best director or screenplay in the Golden Globe nominations. Clint Eastwood getting two for Flags of Our Fathers and the Japaneese version was ridiculous condier neither picture got a best picture or any other nominations. At least Dreamgirls got 3 acting nods plus a Best Picure nod.

Mikeoaklandpark
Mikeoaklandpark on December 14, 2006 at 7:55 am

Well it will be interesting to see if the film was shot in scope since it definately was not shot in 70mm. Poor Bill Condon got a slap in the face today not getting a best director or screenplay in the Golden Globe nominations. Clint Eastwood getting two for Flags of Our Fathers and the Japaneese version was ridiculous condier neither picture got a best picture or any other nominations. At least Dreamgirls got 3 acting nods plus a Best Picure nod.