Loew's State Theatre

1540 Broadway,
New York, NY 10036

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Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 4, 2006 at 5:38 pm

On that we can heartily agree, Vincent. “Gladiator” certainly deserved a proper palace for its premier presentation, rather than the unceremonious standard-issue wide release it was given. Even that granddaddy of the modern Hollywood blockbuster imperative, “Jaws” had the magnificent Rivoli for its gala premier back in ‘75.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on January 4, 2006 at 11:54 am

To Ed Solero,
Thank you for that thoughtful response to my sometimes heated words. But you are right about me vastly prefering the old studio performers to those of the Hollywood begun in the 70’s. I just think that many of the older stars were more nuanced actors than they are given credit for. I think that Gable in Mutiny for instance more than holds his own against a giant like Laughton. And as good as some contemporary and recent actors can be like De Niro and Streep I miss the passion and energy of a Cagney, the astonishing charm of a Grant and even the cool beauty of a Kim Novak and I think Heston is great in those big fat roadshow epics(don’t throw bricks!)
By the way I liked Crowe very much Gladiator. How nice that would have been at the State.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 4, 2006 at 10:43 am

Thanks for pointing that out, Mike… I meant to say that those theaters had no lengthy history showing films (as opposed to the Lunt-Fontanne, Mark Hellinger, Broadway, Palace, 42nd Street grinders, etc). The “Gigi” engagement was more like a one shot deal, wasn’t it? Or were there other runs like this at the Royale and/or other erstwhile legitimate houses?

Anyway… I agree with TJ in principal. At least corporations have paid their way onto the marquees of theaters by contributing money towards restoration, renovations and maintenance. The Shubert situation smacks a bit of vanity.

Hibi
Hibi on January 4, 2006 at 10:30 am

Yes, you’re right about that. A few have shown movies (Lunt-Fontanne/Globe; Warner/Mark Hellinger etc.)

Mikeoaklandpark
Mikeoaklandpark on January 4, 2006 at 10:10 am

Ed Solero
Actually the Royal now the Jacobs had the roadshow engagement of Gigi. I have a clipping of it in a book of NYTimes movie reviews that I bought in 1978. Interesting that the book At This Theater which is all about the broadway theaters history doesn’t show Gigi as being at the Royal. If I can ever figure out how to scan a pic and put it in here I will.

Hibi
Hibi on January 4, 2006 at 10:05 am

I still think it stinks.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 4, 2006 at 9:21 am

The Shuberts have recently renamed a couple of their legitimate theaters after board members… therefore the Royale is now named after deceased and former long time President of the Shubert Organization, Bernard Jacobs; and the Plymouth is named after the current (and therefore very much alive) chairman, Gerald Schoenfeld. At least the Jujamcyn group continue to honor the artistic history of Broadway by renaming thier Martin Beck and Virginia theaters after famed caricaturist Al Hirschfeld and playwrite August Wilson, respectively. Anyway… none of these theaters have ever had a history of exhibiting films, so this is probably a topic better explored elsewhere than on Cinema Treasures.

Hibi
Hibi on January 4, 2006 at 8:49 am

Why are they naming theaters after lawyers now? What happened to playrights, composers or actors? No Ethel Merman, Tennessee Williams, Harold Arlen, Cole Porter. We get Bernard Jacobs? Something is wrong here.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 4, 2006 at 8:38 am

How about “Paint Your Wagon” or “Song of Norway”, Vincent? You have to draw the line somewhere, right? Seriously, I’m with you on that point… I’d take any of those turkey’s (plus “Hello Dolly!”) just to see an old fashioned road-show engagement at The Rivoli, Capitol or Strand as well.

As for your other point… not every actor is cut out for every role. I wouldn’t want to see Pacino, Costner or Reeves in an old time biblical epic. That’s no reason to denigrate the fine work he has done in his own idiom. Pacino is a wonderful stage and screen actor. While he has certainly chosen to ham it up and become caricature in much of his recent work – “Scarface”, “Heat”, “Scent of a Woman” and “Devil’s Advocate” leap immediately to mind – he is also capable of beautifully nuanced, even sublime performances such as those in the first two “Godfather” movies, “Scarecrow”, “Panic in Needle Park” and, more recently, “Donnie Brasco” and “Insomnia.” But I sure wouldn’t want to have seen him as Judah Ben-Hur. Costner has his charms when confined to his limited range (playing washed up jocks seems to be work for him). Reeves… OK, you have me there.

My problem with Heston is that he always played Heston. I guess that can be said of most iconic movie stars from the golden age of the studios, but Heston’s emotional range is rather limited and his personality as square as his jaw. Compare him to a current star like Russell Crowe who has great range and can command the screen for a costume epic like “Gladiator” or “Master and Commander” – he’s probably one of the few contemporary actors who can pull off those sort of Heston-like roles and lend to them an emotional core that was missing with Heston. Anyway… I seem to recall from other comments on this site that your cinematic preferences don’t particularly favor the sort of European-influenced filmmaking and acting styles that were ushered in during the ‘70’s. To each his own. I respectfully bow to your opinion.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on January 4, 2006 at 7:40 am

I saw it recently for the first time(no tv viewings for me) at the Loews Jersey and found it terrific. Better than the silent even though the sea battle in that one is far superior and the chariot race is its equal.
And if you think Heston is wooden would you prefer Pacino eating up every square inch of scenery rolling his eyes and smacking his lips or Kevin Costner or Keenu Reeves practically comatose from self absorption?
Warren I’m pretty surprised that you would say thank god to never seeing roadshow presentation at the Loew’s State again.
At this point I’d love to see Fiddler again at the Rivoli and boy is that one a real stinker.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 3, 2006 at 11:29 am

I rather like the ‘59 “Ben-Hur,” though I’d have to agree that too much praise has been heaped upon it over the years. I’ve only ever seen it on the small screen (though, via a nice widescreen DVD on a 60 inch LCD projection monitor) and would salivate at the opportunity to see a proper big-screen presentation. Having said that, Heston is pretty wooden and the film occasionally suffers from the usual lumbering weight that all 1950’s Hollywood biblical epics carried around with them – not to mention that it lacks a certain poetry that the original silent version was able to achieve. Still, I find it a stirring entertainment all-around.

RobertR
RobertR on January 2, 2006 at 2:39 pm

Great days we will never see again
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uncleal923
uncleal923 on December 26, 2005 at 6:18 pm

EdSolero;
There is information about the Lane on another section of this site. I don’t know the theater’s number, but I thought I should tell you. I never went to the Lane, but we had a bagel store near there, and it was closed at the time we had it. At that time and presently I lived on Long Island. We are now looking for a home on Staten Island and I sometimes pass the Lane. It had a nice exterior and I hope it does reopen, but not as a nightclub. Anyone want to bring legitimate theater to it?

RobertR
RobertR on December 17, 2005 at 3:32 am

Sadly the Lane is empty and slowly falling apart too. I have been to Europe and seen theatres hundreds of years old and in this country, mainly NY we cant keep something for more then 40 years. I am very bitter since the Beekman was destroyed, there was no reason it could not have been built around like the Palace. I went to the Keith’s in Flushing many times before and after the tri-plexing. At this point I say tear every inch of it down. To keep some disjointed features of the lobby within a “glass wall” is disgusting. That area long ago gave up any remaining shards of culture and is dead in my book. I was just telling someone about being a kid in the 60’s and seeing “The Christmas That Almost Wasn’t” at the Ridgewood with Paul Tripp making a personal appearance at the theatre. Many other fond holiday shows, remember when banks would give free tickets to Saturday morning Christmas shows? That’s how I got to see “Santa Clause Conquers the Martians”, also at the Ridgewood. Actually when I was manager of the Haven, Columbia Savings kept the tradition going until the late 1980’s. Sadly all the kids now don’t have this.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on December 16, 2005 at 6:57 am

Very sad, RobertR. I saw this version of Kong at the Astoria, which has been gutted to it’s bare walls for retail/commercial use. But, on the bright side, at least the Paradise, Metropolitan, Elmwood and Valencia are still standing and being well preserved (or in the process) as houses of worship. Better still, they are all more or less open to the public. I dare say that for the most part these theaters are in better shape now than when they last saw a feature film presentation, with all traces of multiplexing having been elmininated. One might argue against the current garish color scheme of the former Valencia (which was never twinned or triplexed), but at least it retains it’s original configuration, unlike the partitioned American.

Is the Lane in Staten Island still open as a nightclub? I thought I read on this site that the interior is landmarked.

RobertR
RobertR on December 16, 2005 at 6:05 am

History repeats itself……..sort of. 29 years ago “King Kong” was a Christmas attraction like it is this year. Look at the theatres in the 5 boros every one is gone except the American in the Bronx.
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RichHamel
RichHamel on December 16, 2005 at 4:00 am

Yes, it’s the combination Apollo/Lyric on 42nd. It was recently called the Ford Theater.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on December 16, 2005 at 3:55 am

Isn’t Hilton Theater the new name of the former Ford Center for the Performing Arts, the “new” theater that was cobbled together in the combined shells of the Lyric and Apollo on 42nd Street? I believe that is where the show “Chitty Chitty Bang Bang” is playing. And I did mean to write that the “site of the original Loew’s State” and the Hilton are within a few blocks… my error made it seem as if the old State was still standing, which, as you correctly point out, is not so.

Anyway… it’s hard to keep up with the name changes in the New York theatrical community. Several legitimate theaters have recently been re-christened – including a pair of Shubert theaters that were named after a couple of the Organization’s Board members: the Royale is now the Bernard Jacobs and the Plymouth now the Gerald Schoenfeld.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on December 15, 2005 at 5:11 pm

Gustavelifting… the Loew’s State and the Hilton Theater are within a few blocks of each other, never mind a mile. Haven’t seen the “Chitty” show yet, though my ex did take the kiddies to see it. I saw the movie in theaters as well when I was a very young boy, but it was in a neighborhood theater in Queens, not Times Square. I loved the Loew’s State all the same, even though I never knew it as a single screen theater. Both theaters were spacious, but I remember the upstairs theater being the better of the two because of the original high ceiling. This and the Rivoli were the nicest and most ornate of the theaters on the Square as I can recall, although, I must admit I never made it into either the Criterion or Movieland during the years I frequented the area in the ‘80’s.

uncleal923
uncleal923 on December 15, 2005 at 4:46 pm

I recently went to see the Broadway Show Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. That was when I remembered where I first saw it. I told my companion that it was in a movie house on Broadway. That was the newly twinned Loew’s State Theater. Funny, the first time I saw both the stage and movie versions of that show were within a mile of each other. I remember the marquis as they were twinning it. It was Chitty and Oliver. I think I also saw Oliver for the first time there, and then I saw the play on Broadway about twenty years later. It’s strange what can happen in New York.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on December 5, 2005 at 10:06 am

Life… It was the so called “bow tie” building on the next block down from the old Loew’s State that was gutted rather than being completely demolished. This would be between 45th and 44th street and used to house the Criterion Theater as well as Bond’s Clothing Store and Bond’s International Casino. Toys ‘R’ Us now occupies. Some folks have posted on the Criterion Theater site that remnants of the old theater can be found on the 2nd level of the store.

Jes
Jes on December 5, 2005 at 9:50 am

When I visited in summer 1988 there was only a big hole in the ground.

Life's Too Short
Life's Too Short on December 4, 2005 at 6:15 am

The description at top says that the Loews State was gutted in the 90’s. I was under the impression that the theatre and adjoining office building were completely demolished and replaced by new development. Does some part of the old building still exist?

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on November 15, 2005 at 8:21 pm

Thanks for that thrilling photo, Warren. You think that’s “On the Beach” playing across the street from “Ben-Hur”?

Gerald A. DeLuca
Gerald A. DeLuca on October 23, 2005 at 3:22 am

This is a repeat of an earlier posting of mine, but with an added photo. Loew’s State did not normally play foreign-language films, but they did run the Italian Tomorrow is Too Late in 1952 in a subtitled print to enormous business (Variety: ‘Tomorrow’ Smash 45G). It was a lovely but now forgotten movie featuring Pier Angeli and Vittorio De Sica and dealt with the sexual awakening of adolescents. The movie went on to play art houses around the country, and in a dubbed version was even shown at drive-ins. Click here for a photo of patrons in line for Tomorrow is Too Late.