Village East by Angelika
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For three out of the past four weeks, the highest grossing movie in the US based on per-screen average has been “2001”. If only Stanley were still alive to see this.
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in reference to moviebuff82’s May 21 post. many “classics” weren’t rated till they first came out on home video. 2001 got a G rating i thought at least a PG since there’s the scene where one ape beasts another ape to death. also how did Ben-Hur get a G rating with the scene where Messala gets pounded into a cube steak the horse’s hoofs. also the original 1968 Planet of the Apes likewise got a G rating. yet there is a scene when the American astronauts land on what they think is an uncharted planet they bath in a pool underneath a waterfall naked and you get a very quick glimpse of everything.
Nothing does justice to the Star Gate sequence as well as a curved screen. Maybe Warner Home Video is going to surprise us?
Then again, I could be wrong! That was pretty spectacular looking, NYer!!!
That was pretty great NYer!
Brothers Grimm in Smilebox … sigh. That’s my home video Holy Grail. Too bad there are no plans at all to release it. I should just be grateful I got to see it in Cinerama in 2012.
I’m not sure the smilebox presentation would work well for a regular anamorphic or spherical widescreen film. It does wonders for a true three-strip Cinerama flick like HTWWW or Brothers Grimm, where the viewing plane gets distorted and just doesn’t work in a flat screen presentation.
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to Ed S. thank you for your reply. I was fortunate to have seem 2001 twice during its roadshow run at the Capitol on the gigantic curved Cinerama screen. I suppose every viewing of the film in a theater will be judged against those two viewings.
I guess it’s too much to hope for a Smilebox curved screen simulation on the 2018 Blu-ray. How the West Was Won came out spectacularly in that format 10 years ago.
Nolan just wanted a nice analog representation of what 2001: A Space Odyssey looked like to audiences back in 1968 – albeit without the gigantic curved Cinerama screen (no doubt a huge part of the initial 2001 experience). Still, no digital overlays, no color correcting… Just a nice fresh 70mm print off the interpositive as may have been enjoyed by audiences on general release, anyway.. My understanding is that the film is being restored digitally in preparation for a 50th anniversary Blu-ray release later in the year. That will have all the digital bells and whistles applied and make for wonderful viewing at home – and maybe even at the odd cinema in 4K projection, if the powers that be are so inclined. But that end product will not look like a negative to film transfer would have looked in 1968.
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to markp. I like your witty comment. I don’t see what would have been soooooooooooooo horrible if Nolan had restored the print before making the 70MM prints for the 50th Anniversary. is Nolan saying classic films should never be restored?
See now if it was the Regal E Walk or AMC Lincoln Square and I was running it there would be no scratches. Just saying
Peter- I’ve heard from someone else who saw 2001 yesterday that there is a 2 line scratch down the middle of the screen for much of the third act. Certainly doesn’t sound like the ones from negative used to make the new prints, or what was in the first days it was showing, and that’s unfortunate (though also the risk run the longer a print has been playing).
2001 is held over at the Village East for another week.
Howard – unfortunately there were already a few minor projection scratches visible on the print at the show I saw on Saturday. Thin black tramlines on the extreme right side that should not be there on what would have been the 6th or 7th running of the print (hell, they shouldn’t be there even after the 100th running of the print). Plus some dirt/lint near the reel changes and visible splicing tape.
I don’t mind scratches. I remember going to see reissues of movies like Star Wars and countless Disney films and those had some scratches even if the film was restored. 2001 marks one of the first instances that a reissued film is being shown the way Kubrick intended it to be after the world premiere for theatrical release. Remember Kubrick cut about 20 or so minutes from the footage days after a few people saw the original version so that the pace sped up a bit. When i first saw 2001 on vhs it cut straight to Jupiter (this was from a 1980 print) and didn’t have the entrace music and intermission music. The digital HD version that i bought on Itunes includes that and also has the film in its 2:20.1 ratio. This films was one of the last pre-MPAA rating movies before the fall of 1968 when the ratings went into effect. 2001 would soon be rated G, just like the first Planet of the Apes movie, so that people of all ages could see this masterpiece. What Nolan is doing to this 50th anniversary reissue is quite unique. I wish more theatres would show this 70mm unrestored version.
bigjoe59: Please don’t let those minor flaws keep you from going to see it. What’s good and even great about the presentation far outweighs 3 or 4 scratches. If I hadn’t become so used to pristine digital prints, I probably wouldn’t have even noticed them. Seeing them reminded me of watching the movie at the Ziegfeld in 1974, a great feeling!
Personally, I would be in favor of fixing scratches on the negative, but since they are advertising this as an “unrestored” re-release, I do see how it goes against that idea. If you look at home media versions of many older films (usually not A-list titles which do get restored), you can often find dirt or small scratches from the print used for the home transfer still there.
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what would have been so horrible if Nolan had repaired the quite obvious scratches? he wouldn’t have changed the film just repaired it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/11/movies/2001-a-space-odyssey-christopher-nolan-cannes.html
The team preparing this version of 2001 decided to keep some tears from the original negative, instead of repairing them, as they felt it would be more authentic that way.
Obviously now that it’s been showing for a bit, new scratches may have appeared, but even a flawless print and showing of this release will have those issues.
I didn’t say they caused the scratches, but in the past when I was running 70MM the same time as them, there were reports of their prints being scratched a few days into the run. It just seems funny how its already reported.
Whatever projection issues of any sort here, Peter didn’t say the theater caused any scratches. Screenings here only began Friday. There are reported issues elsewhere with this version of the movie, as to the version itself having scratches & color issues, though there’s also reported good sides to it.
Scratches already? I ran Phantom Thread in 70MM for 11 weeks and never scratched the print. Why this isn’t in the Regal E Walk or Lincoln Square where me and my team would be running it is beyond me.
There are projection and print issues with 2001 at the Village East, and I think a $20 ticket is a bit much, but it’s still worth seeing.
My daughter, whom I turned on to this movie 18 years ago when she was 8 years old (courtesy of TCM New Year’s midnight showing back in 2000-2001), is going to the 7:30 tonight to see it on the big screen for the first time in her life. I think she’s in for a special treat!