Guess Williamsburg was always not too desirable a neighborhood. But the Folly must have been important to be referenced in this robbery. Gotta give Mr Finkelstein a big ataboy.
JEWELER THWARTS THIEVES.; Holds One Robber, Though His Companions Fire at Him.
New York Times (1857-Current file). New York, N.Y.: Apr 7, 1912. pg. C4, 1 pgs
Abstract (Summary)
Harold Finkelstein, a jeweler at 39 Graham Avenue, Williamsburg, frustrated the attempt of three men to rob him at the point of their revolvers yesterday. Finkelstein’s shop is one block from the Folly Theatre, in the shopping district of Williamsburg. A young man entered the shop yesterday and handed the jeweler a silver watch, explaining that he wanted it repaired.
New York Times (1857-Current file). New York, N.Y.: Jan 7, 1929. pg. 1, 2 pgs
THUGS TERRIFY 2,500 IN THEATRE HOLD-UP; Eight Gunmen Raid Brooklyn Film House, Seize $2,500 and Shoot Way Out. A POLICEMAN IS WOUNDED Robber Also Believed Hit in Pistol Battle During Auto Chase—Car Is Found. Loot Safe of More Than $2,500. Six Thugs Advance on Theatre. THUGS TERRIFY 2,500 IN THEATRE HOLD-UP Six Policemen Speed to Aid. Cash Found in Riddled Auto. Car and License Tags Stolen.
Abstract (Summary)
One of the most daring hold-ups since Commissioner Whalen took command of the Police Department and declared war on gangsters and gunmen took place last night when the Fox Folly Theatre, at DeBevoise …
New York Times Nov 24, 1927:
New Moss Theatre Opens Tonight.
A new picture and vaudeville theater, BS Moss'Madison Theater in Brooklyn, will have its opening tonight. The new house will seat 3,000 persons and is at Myrtle and Wycoff Avenues, Ridgewood.
The first of the intact vaudeville programs planned by the RADIO-KEITHS-ORPHEUM Corporation is now at The Madison Theater in Brooklyn The four act unit will play a route of forty weeks to the Pacific Coast and back.
I haven’t looked yet. I’ve been trying to find an interior photo of the Ridgewood for us.
You may enjoy browsing that 11/27 page as it contains a lot of ads for other theaters. Problem with postin a jpg of this type is that you can’t magnify it much before it gets bad jaggies.
The info I’ve found is in bitmap format, and I can’t copy it or save it. Unless you have any ideas? I have to print it and then scan it. But my scanner is down.
That’s exactly what I’ve done LostMemory; ie- I have copied and pasted most of the information relevant to RT Short. It is included between “xx”, [[xx]], or <<xx>>, here or on the orher pages.
The fact that all 15 of R. Thomas Short’s theater designs were on Long Island was what made me conclude he was a local guy (albeit via Canada).
I used to pass The Suffolk when I took the ferry to Greenport on my wat to the Moriches. Last time was about 10 years ago and I can remember thinking I’d like to check it out sometime. Never realized what a great place it was.
This is a very nice page. Keep the outlanders out.
Soryy, Lostmemory. You have to be a subscriber to Proquest. That’s why I’ve included a description of the articles I’ve posted here and on the Ridgewood and Madison pages.
I included the the link to the url as a reference and for any others on the list who may be subscribers.
Warren, I wasn’t sure of that. That’s why I included a description. Two pictures in the ad: one a dory w sailors and a whale’s fluke above the boat; the other of some of the actors
The first of the intact vaudeville programs planned by the RADIO-KEITHS-ORPHEUM Corporation is now at The Madison Theater in Brooklyn The four act unit will play a route of forty weeks to the Pacific Coast and back.
Edgar Clifton’s Down to the Sea In Ships. Very nice display ad from the 5/23/1923 NYT of “The most sensational photoplay of this year which can be seen at thirty leading theaters”, including The Ridgewood.
<<Except for their three bigger, and better known, apartment houses of 1906-1909, Harde & Short otherwise made little impact on apartment-house architecture in New York — except perhaps to convince developers to stick with tried-and-true formulas. Of the architects' other buildings, only Short’s castle-like police station at 134 West 30th Street (1906-1908) goes well beyond the typical.>>
It is not clear to me what was unique about their design or what a ‘pyrotechnic facade’ referred to in your reference means.
Thanks LostMemory.I’d call him a ‘local guy’ for all intents and purposes. No reference to his theater designs.
Sounds like the NYT didn’t hold his talents in too high regard:[[Short continued in architecture after leaving Harde, but his subsequent buildings – many in Brooklyn, where he continued to live – were unexceptional. The date of his death is not known.
No contemporary critic bothered to give Harde & Short more than a passing reference – more often than not just a swipe – and so it is likely that all we will know of them is their buildings. ]]
Warren, do you agree with CT’s designation that short designed ‘classic’ theatres?
How many of the 15 listed are you responsible for documenting?
I wasn’t able to get any bio info on him, albeit very limited effort
Guess Williamsburg was always not too desirable a neighborhood. But the Folly must have been important to be referenced in this robbery. Gotta give Mr Finkelstein a big ataboy.
JEWELER THWARTS THIEVES.; Holds One Robber, Though His Companions Fire at Him.
New York Times (1857-Current file). New York, N.Y.: Apr 7, 1912. pg. C4, 1 pgs
Abstract (Summary)
Harold Finkelstein, a jeweler at 39 Graham Avenue, Williamsburg, frustrated the attempt of three men to rob him at the point of their revolvers yesterday. Finkelstein’s shop is one block from the Folly Theatre, in the shopping district of Williamsburg. A young man entered the shop yesterday and handed the jeweler a silver watch, explaining that he wanted it repaired.
The Folly made 1st page news.
New York Times (1857-Current file). New York, N.Y.: Jan 7, 1929. pg. 1, 2 pgs
THUGS TERRIFY 2,500 IN THEATRE HOLD-UP; Eight Gunmen Raid Brooklyn Film House, Seize $2,500 and Shoot Way Out. A POLICEMAN IS WOUNDED Robber Also Believed Hit in Pistol Battle During Auto Chase—Car Is Found. Loot Safe of More Than $2,500. Six Thugs Advance on Theatre. THUGS TERRIFY 2,500 IN THEATRE HOLD-UP Six Policemen Speed to Aid. Cash Found in Riddled Auto. Car and License Tags Stolen.
Abstract (Summary)
One of the most daring hold-ups since Commissioner Whalen took command of the Police Department and declared war on gangsters and gunmen took place last night when the Fox Folly Theatre, at DeBevoise …
Savoy, Jamaica, and the 3rd is Fox’s Folly theater at Graham & D…. St.
It is not the elusive Ridgewood Folly, unless that was also a Fox theater.
New York Times Nov 24, 1927:
New Moss Theatre Opens Tonight.
A new picture and vaudeville theater, BS Moss'Madison Theater in Brooklyn, will have its opening tonight. The new house will seat 3,000 persons and is at Myrtle and Wycoff Avenues, Ridgewood.
Final correction:………From the NYT 7/21/1930:
The first of the intact vaudeville programs planned by the RADIO-KEITHS-ORPHEUM Corporation is now at The Madison Theater in Brooklyn The four act unit will play a route of forty weeks to the Pacific Coast and back.
I haven’t looked yet. I’ve been trying to find an interior photo of the Ridgewood for us.
You may enjoy browsing that 11/27 page as it contains a lot of ads for other theaters. Problem with postin a jpg of this type is that you can’t magnify it much before it gets bad jaggies.
It was an ad by Fox for its 10 theaters in Manhattan and Brooklyn.
LostMemory, I’ve uploaded 2 Fox display ads as jpgs to Photobucket. Check the Ridgewood page.
Shalom, ciao, and excelsior
See as well as Hear Fox Movietone Newsreel at the Ridgewood. [NYT display ad 11/24/27]
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Display ad May 13, 1923 which I described yesterday. …………..
………Elmer Clifton’s Down to the Sea In Ships.
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Correction. the display ads and photos are bitmaps. I am able to copy and paste news articles, as stated three messages above.
The info I’ve found is in bitmap format, and I can’t copy it or save it. Unless you have any ideas? I have to print it and then scan it. But my scanner is down.
That’s exactly what I’ve done LostMemory; ie- I have copied and pasted most of the information relevant to RT Short. It is included between “xx”, [[xx]], or <<xx>>, here or on the orher pages.
The fact that all 15 of R. Thomas Short’s theater designs were on Long Island was what made me conclude he was a local guy (albeit via Canada).
I used to pass The Suffolk when I took the ferry to Greenport on my wat to the Moriches. Last time was about 10 years ago and I can remember thinking I’d like to check it out sometime. Never realized what a great place it was.
This is a very nice page. Keep the outlanders out.
Soryy, Lostmemory. You have to be a subscriber to Proquest. That’s why I’ve included a description of the articles I’ve posted here and on the Ridgewood and Madison pages.
I included the the link to the url as a reference and for any others on the list who may be subscribers.
Thanks for the lead to the Suffolk page.
Shalom, ciao, and excelsior
Do you not believe 11/24/27, ROLLO?
I posted the 5/18/23 date by accident.It referred to a post I made to the Ridgewood.
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Hey Rollo,
That was from the 11/24/27 NYT
Measure twice, cut once.
Aye.
Shalom, ciao, and excelsior
Warren, I wasn’t sure of that. That’s why I included a description. Two pictures in the ad: one a dory w sailors and a whale’s fluke above the boat; the other of some of the actors
Shalom. ciao, and excelsior
From the NYT 5/19/23:
The first of the intact vaudeville programs planned by the RADIO-KEITHS-ORPHEUM Corporation is now at The Madison Theater in Brooklyn The four act unit will play a route of forty weeks to the Pacific Coast and back.
Shalom, ciao, and esxcelsior
Hey Rollo,
That should be Elmer Clifton, NOT Edgar.
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Edgar Clifton’s Down to the Sea In Ships. Very nice display ad from the 5/23/1923 NYT of “The most sensational photoplay of this year which can be seen at thirty leading theaters”, including The Ridgewood.
The NYT of 2/8/1900 announced he won first prize for the design of model tenement houses. Harde and a colleague came in 2nd and 3rd.
Check the Ridgewood page for a few things I’ve uncovered.
Shalom, ciao, and excelsior
Neither does an earlier NYT article
<<Except for their three bigger, and better known, apartment houses of 1906-1909, Harde & Short otherwise made little impact on apartment-house architecture in New York — except perhaps to convince developers to stick with tried-and-true formulas. Of the architects' other buildings, only Short’s castle-like police station at 134 West 30th Street (1906-1908) goes well beyond the typical.>>
It is not clear to me what was unique about their design or what a ‘pyrotechnic facade’ referred to in your reference means.
Shalom, ciao, and excelsior
Thanks LostMemory.I’d call him a ‘local guy’ for all intents and purposes. No reference to his theater designs.
Sounds like the NYT didn’t hold his talents in too high regard:[[Short continued in architecture after leaving Harde, but his subsequent buildings – many in Brooklyn, where he continued to live – were unexceptional. The date of his death is not known.
No contemporary critic bothered to give Harde & Short more than a passing reference – more often than not just a swipe – and so it is likely that all we will know of them is their buildings. ]]
Warren, do you agree with CT’s designation that short designed ‘classic’ theatres?
How many of the 15 listed are you responsible for documenting?
I wasn’t able to get any bio info on him, albeit very limited effort
Shalom, ciao, and excelsior