TCL Chinese Theatre

6925 Hollywood Boulevard,
Los Angeles, CA 90028

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RogerA
RogerA on April 13, 2013 at 1:48 pm

So, they will get all the IMAX movies. If that is the solution then so be it. Clearance model what the hell is a clearance model? I Goggled clearance model. It sounds like something taught in business school. But in real life the goal is to put butts in seats. If IMAX does that then great!

As for the pixilation problem Let’s hope IMAX increases it’s resolution and frame rate, 48+fps and 8K should do it.

I saw a road show print of My Fair Lady 70mm in New York on a 100 plus foot screen and the picture was bright, sharp and clear. I could make out the fibers in the actors cloths. Certainly with today’s technology we can do as good if not better than that.

John Fink
John Fink on April 13, 2013 at 11:51 am

Installing an IMAX is one way to ensure top quality bookings for this theater and the next-door 6-plex: it’s a clearance model – when an IMAX is attached to a theatre they get whatever IMAX feature is out (which is normally a hot movie). I’m thinking this one will get laser projection as a dirty little secret I ran across in my research is the 2 X 2K D-IMAX image falls apart at 6 stories (why else wouldn’t IMAX let Bill Warren build the largest IMAX screen in the world when he wanted to). I’ve seen this first hand on a native IMAX auditorium that was converted to D-IMAX, it’s about 5-6 stories and you can see pixilation from dead center in the auditorium.

RogerA
RogerA on April 12, 2013 at 9:44 pm

Besides it is a joke that the largest screen isn’t even in California or New York. Use the 120 foot screen holder that the Chinese has install a 120 foot screen and fill a 120 foot wide screen, be the worlds largest. That would be impressive.

And the base boom channel at the Chinese is lame. At one time there were 16 16" speakers. We had some base boom. I put two 2000 watt amps on those two speaker banks and got some impressive base. I ran a reel of Jurasic Park as a test for someone at Universal and they were speachless. We used to be able to blow out a match with the base channel. Not any more. Showmanship died years ago.

Danny Baldwin
Danny Baldwin on April 12, 2013 at 9:37 pm

I actually think the IMAX brand is one of the only things that will draw current audiences to the Chinese, even though it’s vastly inferior to the theater as it is now.

Michael Furlinger
Michael Furlinger on April 12, 2013 at 9:35 pm

Yes it is the draw that can save the theatre !

RogerA
RogerA on April 12, 2013 at 9:23 pm

Longislandmovies there is nothing wrong with turning a profit they are just going about it wrong. There is nothing special about an IMAX theater. Is IMAX that big of a draw that it will get a crowd into the Chinese. I hope the IMAX picture is 1:90 at least that is better than 1:34 Last time I went to the Chinese it wasn’t worth the extra expense and trouble. At least at the El Capitan the pre show alone is worth the price of a ticket. I just paid 45 bucks for a ticket to Gatsby at the Dome but that is reserved seat and an event. They will sell out that show and at $45 a head they will make a profit even if it is an open bar. Sad to say but the Chinese isn’t that special any more.

Michael Furlinger
Michael Furlinger on April 12, 2013 at 9:13 pm

94 foot screen is amazing … I owned a 78 foot screen theatre by 42 …amazing!!

Danny Baldwin
Danny Baldwin on April 12, 2013 at 8:34 pm

I think they’re arguing it’s “LieMax” because it will be digital projection and a 1.90:1 screen rather than 1.44:1, not because of the size.

Michael Furlinger
Michael Furlinger on April 12, 2013 at 8:33 pm

Roger what wrong with trying to make money .. This is the mentality of America today !

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on April 12, 2013 at 8:26 pm

According to an article I read, the screen specs are 94 feet wide by 46 feet 2 inches tall. DEFINITELY doesn’t sound like a LieMax!

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on April 12, 2013 at 6:18 pm

I recently added the last sentence to the Intro above, as to future seating capacity. As to original seating capacity, Theatre Historical Society of America (not an online source) has it at 2,200 seats when it opened in 1927.

RogerA
RogerA on April 12, 2013 at 12:03 pm

This just looks like a desperate attempt to make the venue profitable again. The overhead is huge; electric and heat are big expenses and the reason why the large houses cost a lot to run. Also they have lost much of their audience. I saw the Hobbit and the place was empty. Back in the 90’s the theater used to fill up all the time. Time will tell but everything they are doing just smacks of desperation. Mann theaters lost their top technical person years ago when Brent Walker died suddenly and things started to go down hill from there. Mann never made full use of the venue they refused to run any revival stuff like the new owners are doing. That is the one idea that at least seems to draw a large crowd.

The Hollywood Highland project was supposed to do wonders for the whole area but still the Theater seems to be losing money year after year. The majority of people just seem to like their neighborhood mutiplex.

Cliffs
Cliffs on April 12, 2013 at 10:59 am

Zuni, the 1,162 seating capacity is what is listed right here on this page.

RogerA, I also read that they are planning to show occasional Chinese films (to tie the theater to it’s “sponsor” and also play off the Chinese name), so that suggests to me that they plan on showing not just IMAX stuff. But my jaw would drop if they didn’t show both Catching Fire AND The Hobbit in IMAX this Thanksgiving/Christmas.

RogerA
RogerA on April 12, 2013 at 9:33 am

The original seats were smaller and spaced closer together. When the theater was built the seats went a lot further back to where the snack bar is now. The newest latest large snack bar takes up the space once used by the Cinemiracle booth. The seats that are installed now are wider and have more leg room than the standard theater seat so there are a lot less seats than there were when the theater first opened.

RogerA
RogerA on April 12, 2013 at 8:30 am

The Chinese was only remodeled once to put in a larger screen and that was a major renovation for Windjammer. There is a 120 foot screen holder under the 90 foot screen holder that is used now. The IMAX screen will be limited width because of height restrictions. It will be sad to see the Curtains and masking get taken out but that is the trend. If they will only be able to run IMAX films that will limit the films they can show.

Cliffs
Cliffs on April 12, 2013 at 4:28 am

The more I’ve thought about it, the more curious I am about the potential upsides.

First off, Zubi… to be fair, the current seating in Grauman’s is actually 1,162, so a new seat count of 986 isn’t exactly a major slash in seats.

But the truth is that the Chinese is dying. They can no longer book the “A” titles and when they do, they’re stuck playing it for so long that they’re a ghost town for weeks at a time (The Hobbit is a good example). They need some way to bring in titles again and fill seats, otherwise it WILL turn into a dance club. And let’s be honest… this ISN’T the first time the Chinese has been renovated to increase the screen size. It’s just the first time most of us can remember and instead of going horizontal, this time it’s going vertical. I would love to see them use some top/bottom masking so that when they aren’t showing in full IMAX, they can return to the screen shape they’ve always had. Don’t know if that’s possible.

BUT…

The real question is going to be whether or not the studios are going to consider “The IMAX Experience” films to be different than the standard DCP/3D/35mm engagements. If they do (and I don’t see a reason they can’t) that would mean that the Chinese can book films simultaneously with the Arclight and even the El Capitan. Just imagine the Dome playing something like Man of Steel in standard 4k and (god help us) their patented god-awful 3D, while a few blocks away the Chinese is playing Man of Steel: An IMAX 3D Experience (even though I know the new Chinese won’t be re-opened by June for MOS). Will the studios allow the IMAX version to play at the Chinese at the same time as the standard version at the Dome? Technically it’s not a movie the Dome can play, so you’re not double booking in the same territory. Now Pacific is absolutely not going to want this to happen and is going to fight it, but it could make things interesting and Arclight might actually have to step it up again in the presentation department. I feel they’ve gotten waaaaayyy too complacent, especially after losing what competition the Chinese used to offer when still a Mann theater.

Add in some reserved seating and I’m certainly game to check it out. Would probably beat going to Universal City or The Rave.

CTCrouch
CTCrouch on April 12, 2013 at 3:26 am

“I am told that the new laser light source delivers a picture as bright as carbon arc used to give.”

Laser projection will be able to play 3D at brightness levels of 14 foot lamberts on the IMAX screen. So, that is a huge improvement from what one normally finds with 3D image brightness on screens of any size. Perhaps, more importantly, the laser technology allows for a uniform picture on large screens (3D and 2D). The demonstration conducted at last year’s CinemaCon was very impressive.

While I’m not fully sold on the proposed alterations either, I do hold out hope that these new deals and changes might place the Chinese back in to the realm of being a competitive cinema once again. Perhaps, the “latest and greatest” technology or the IMAX deal will finally result in better bookings.

Michael Furlinger
Michael Furlinger on April 11, 2013 at 9:23 pm

Bravo , sounds like a plan that might actually save this theatre.

RogerA
RogerA on April 11, 2013 at 8:17 pm

IMAX at the Chinese, well that will make the minions who don’t know any better happy. I will not go see a movie shot in 1:85 or 2:35 projected in an aspect ratio of 1:34 besides IMAX is mostly hype. Blowing up a low resolution original only makes it easy to see how bad it really looks. Besides the resolution of video projected IMAX is only 4K at best (they were using two 2K projectors). Looks like they will never be able to match the picture size and quality of Windjammer in Cinemiracle or even Todd-AO. I am told that the new laser light source delivers a picture as bright as carbon arc used to give. So finally the Dome will be the big screen leader in Southern California. If these people were really smart they would install a custom system like the major chains are doing.

RobertAlex
RobertAlex on April 11, 2013 at 3:53 pm

Hey guys, the LATHF is working with them to ensure they do it right. They are also holding an event here on 4/20.

Check out http://www.lahtf.org/2013-movie-making-movies.html

Cliffs
Cliffs on April 11, 2013 at 3:45 pm

The big question is… HOW? They’re saying the 3rd largest screen IMAX has. How is that possible unless they dig and go underground? What kind of destruction will that cause? Most of me is mortified, but part of me is very curious.

BRADE48
BRADE48 on April 11, 2013 at 3:42 pm

Sad News. It was bad enough they were changing to stadium seating NOW IMAX is the final nail in the coffin. Film exhibition is really going down the toilet.

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on April 11, 2013 at 2:44 pm

So…they’re turning the most famous movie theatre in the world into…AHEM…an IMAX!

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-chinese-theatre-goes-imax-20130411,0,2203702.story

hillsmanwright
hillsmanwright on February 21, 2013 at 9:38 am

The pool at the base of the fountain on the right side was removed when that fussy, fussy fire department and the Dept of Building and Safety decided that more clearance was needed at a major entrance portal. Why stop at a wading pool? Maybe add a water slide to the stairs/escalators that ascend from the portal? Next time you go, don’t miss the musical stairs and Sweet – a candy shop for the gods at the top of the stairs.

terrywade
terrywade on January 22, 2013 at 11:46 pm

Thanks CTC with news about the right side fountain. Maybe the new people at TCL can put in a small plastic wading pool at the bottom and sell tickets and make some extra money for the tourists little kids on a hot day to put their feet and splash around in while the parents look at the prints in the forcourt. The strong adults can pay a rock climbing fee to TCL Grauman’s Chinese Theatre to climb what was left of the nice fountain that gurgles no more. They can make extra money If they want their photo taken on the top. Why did they take out the base pool on the right side?