Ahhh-sbestos. I completely forgot about that too. As I recall they used to lace it through the plaster back in the day. Covered by lead paint of course.
I always wondered how they preserved original plaster work, when asbestos was in it’s very fiber of being.
I’ve heard the term “encapsulate” used, but that was basically just covering the offending area up.
Not sure what they can do to remove it, and still keep any given plaster’s detail.
Maybe they could just coat it with some type of clear epoxy. That should work. Cough, cough.
Wow, 6 mil. I almost want to say they should seek a second opinion.
Sounds like an awfully high figure.
Seems like four of those things in the itemized breakdown should be included in the first figure.
The car at the curb in the 1973/1980 photo appears to be a Plymouth Volare or Dodge Aspen. Which weren’t introduced until the 1977 model year. Replacing the Valiant & Dart.
So 1980 is probably correct.
What kind of long hairs protest porn?
Must be 1980.
So if “Mystery Alaska” which came out in 1999, is pictured on the marquee in Lost Memory’s inauguaral 2005 post, when did the Allen Theater finally close?
The theater header/bio still indicates “closed in the 1970’s”.
Don Lewis' 1988 “The Dead Pool” pic also debunks that time frame.
I drove by this place today. Completely different now than in
BWChicago’s pre-renovation pic.
It now has a much brighter drivit/stucco false front over everything that is pictured. But the building’s overall length & roof line appear to be the same.
Fortunately, Ken Mc’s recent 2007 article post indicates that they were only looking for a slogan, and not a new name for the Garden Theatre.
I would hope they keep the name and classic marquee as is, and only add Performing Arts Center or whatever.
There’s also hope that the interior pics posted in 2007, where indicative of the theatre’s relatively original state at that time. The original seat frames can be sand-blasted and repainted, etc. And what little view their was of the interior appeared to have never been mordernized.
As far as a new slogan, I’d go with: “A Garden Grows In Pittsburgh”.
You’d think someone could board up the upper windows in the last three years.
And at least try and prevent further damage from the elements.
Especially if renovation is implied on the website. Even their photo shows the current condition.
You’d think someone could board up the uppers windows in the last three years.
At least try and prevent further damage from the elements. Especially if renovation is implied on the website. Even their photo shows the current condition.
The above mentioned realtor Sussex & Reilly, is listed at 2044 W. Roscoe.
I’m quite certain it’s the same building, with a newer facade at street level. Again, I’ll try and ask to see the rear portion when I’m down there next.
Wow. It would be open only 5 months as of tomorrows date. Can’t imagine what any Pritzker would need or expect of it in that amount of time. Guess the economy really is bad.
Maybe the city should have taxed the foie gras instead. And paid up the Millenium Park bills with the proceeds.
Is it me, or does that last picture in the link of Van Heflin with James MacArthur, look like George Kennedy?
Now THERE would have been a conspiracy theory.
Actors sharing names with presidents & generals on the day of the assassination? Oh the drama.
Interesting article. Not sure what good could ever come out of canceling any upcoming performances. Not really the way to go about building up a newly renovated venue.
Sounds like egos at war. No matter what the problem is, keep the doors open and people coming until it’s resolved.
What would be the point in going public with an internal turmoil? Strange. Especially with so much capitol already spent.
I believe you are correct. The Alley actually sells smaller versions of griffins, gargoyles & columns.
They just lucked out that the building’s terra cotta kind of matched their wares.
Wow. As usual, thanks again guys. Here’s another one I never knew about.
Looks like the exterior had a tough go of it for being only 30 years old.
That 3 columned, balcony like inset is reminiscent of the old Lexington/New Michigan Hotel facade. Wonder if those X panels were ones that once opened. One of our past presidents supposedly once spoke from the one at the Lexington. Another one that along with this theater, if it could have hung on, would have made an awesome renovation.
While waiting to bail a friend out of the Westmont pokey about 10 years ago, I read the history of Westmont on the station’s wall. Going from memory, it was apparently the highest point West of Chicago after the great fire in 1871. West Mountain, if you will.
With all wood construction being frowned upon after the fire, the stone & bricks that would help rebuild Chicago, were loaded onto trains in Westmont. So that gravity downward would assist in their travel Eastbound to Chicago. And now you know, the rest of the story. RIP Paul Harvey.
FYI. If you go to www.Barbra-Archives.com click on “Live” & under 1963-Mister Kelly’s, at the bottom of the page there is a B&W photo of Barbra Streisand near the old Carnegie Theatre blade.
This photo would have been 3 years prior to the 1966 fire that consumed the entire block.
The old blade was situated towards the very front of the marquee at Rush Street.
The new blade on the reconstructed theatre was situated much tighter to the building.
And is the same structure that today supports the Hugo’s Frog Bar vertical sign.
To reaffirm JohnG409’s 2005 post, an evening shot of the UA Crossbay marquee was used in the Christmas 2005 episode of “King Of Queens”. Just caught a rerun.
Interior shots were likely done in a studio. As they always seemed to utilize the same red seats in all episodes involving a theater.
Ahhh-sbestos. I completely forgot about that too. As I recall they used to lace it through the plaster back in the day. Covered by lead paint of course.
I always wondered how they preserved original plaster work, when asbestos was in it’s very fiber of being.
I’ve heard the term “encapsulate” used, but that was basically just covering the offending area up.
Not sure what they can do to remove it, and still keep any given plaster’s detail.
Maybe they could just coat it with some type of clear epoxy. That should work. Cough, cough.
Wow, 6 mil. I almost want to say they should seek a second opinion.
Sounds like an awfully high figure.
Seems like four of those things in the itemized breakdown should be included in the first figure.
Well at least it’s something.
It looked doomed in those
77 &84 pics.It’s neat that they coveted it’s history as a theater within the current lobby.
The car at the curb in the 1973/1980 photo appears to be a Plymouth Volare or Dodge Aspen. Which weren’t introduced until the 1977 model year. Replacing the Valiant & Dart.
So 1980 is probably correct.
What kind of long hairs protest porn?
Must be 1980.
So if “Mystery Alaska” which came out in 1999, is pictured on the marquee in Lost Memory’s inauguaral 2005 post, when did the Allen Theater finally close?
The theater header/bio still indicates “closed in the 1970’s”.
Don Lewis' 1988 “The Dead Pool” pic also debunks that time frame.
I drove by this place today. Completely different now than in
BWChicago’s pre-renovation pic.
It now has a much brighter drivit/stucco false front over everything that is pictured. But the building’s overall length & roof line appear to be the same.
Fortunately, Ken Mc’s recent 2007 article post indicates that they were only looking for a slogan, and not a new name for the Garden Theatre.
I would hope they keep the name and classic marquee as is, and only add Performing Arts Center or whatever.
There’s also hope that the interior pics posted in 2007, where indicative of the theatre’s relatively original state at that time. The original seat frames can be sand-blasted and repainted, etc. And what little view their was of the interior appeared to have never been mordernized.
As far as a new slogan, I’d go with: “A Garden Grows In Pittsburgh”.
You’d think someone could board up the upper windows in the last three years.
And at least try and prevent further damage from the elements.
Especially if renovation is implied on the website. Even their photo shows the current condition.
You’d think someone could board up the uppers windows in the last three years.
At least try and prevent further damage from the elements. Especially if renovation is implied on the website. Even their photo shows the current condition.
Cool. I’d say you are correct.
I’ll swing by this one when I check out the former Roscoe Theater building near Seeley.
The above mentioned realtor Sussex & Reilly, is listed at 2044 W. Roscoe.
I’m quite certain it’s the same building, with a newer facade at street level. Again, I’ll try and ask to see the rear portion when I’m down there next.
Wow. It would be open only 5 months as of tomorrows date. Can’t imagine what any Pritzker would need or expect of it in that amount of time. Guess the economy really is bad.
Maybe the city should have taxed the foie gras instead. And paid up the Millenium Park bills with the proceeds.
Is it me, or does that last picture in the link of Van Heflin with James MacArthur, look like George Kennedy?
Now THERE would have been a conspiracy theory.
Actors sharing names with presidents & generals on the day of the assassination? Oh the drama.
Interesting article. Not sure what good could ever come out of canceling any upcoming performances. Not really the way to go about building up a newly renovated venue.
Sounds like egos at war. No matter what the problem is, keep the doors open and people coming until it’s resolved.
What would be the point in going public with an internal turmoil? Strange. Especially with so much capitol already spent.
Shoot, I just drove by this today. I’ll take a look next week.
I believe you are correct. The Alley actually sells smaller versions of griffins, gargoyles & columns.
They just lucked out that the building’s terra cotta kind of matched their wares.
Wow. As usual, thanks again guys. Here’s another one I never knew about.
Looks like the exterior had a tough go of it for being only 30 years old.
That 3 columned, balcony like inset is reminiscent of the old Lexington/New Michigan Hotel facade. Wonder if those X panels were ones that once opened. One of our past presidents supposedly once spoke from the one at the Lexington. Another one that along with this theater, if it could have hung on, would have made an awesome renovation.
While waiting to bail a friend out of the Westmont pokey about 10 years ago, I read the history of Westmont on the station’s wall. Going from memory, it was apparently the highest point West of Chicago after the great fire in 1871. West Mountain, if you will.
With all wood construction being frowned upon after the fire, the stone & bricks that would help rebuild Chicago, were loaded onto trains in Westmont. So that gravity downward would assist in their travel Eastbound to Chicago. And now you know, the rest of the story. RIP Paul Harvey.
Hmmm. I wonder if this place is where that Catholic Charities Thrift Store was until just recently. Just North of Dugan’s and across from Walgreens.
The thrift store building had very high tin ceilings, and a massive freight elevator in the rear. The 2nd floor was divided up kind of strangely too.
The movie poster pictured in Ken Mc’s Feb. 4th, 2006 link, appears to be that of “Gladiator”. Dating it to be at least late 1999 or 2000.
This has to be the plainest theatre facade I’ve seen to date on CT.
Maybe some folks at SIU would have pictures and/or more history of this theatre in their archives. It’s worth a try.
FYI. If you go to www.Barbra-Archives.com click on “Live” & under 1963-Mister Kelly’s, at the bottom of the page there is a B&W photo of Barbra Streisand near the old Carnegie Theatre blade.
This photo would have been 3 years prior to the 1966 fire that consumed the entire block.
The old blade was situated towards the very front of the marquee at Rush Street.
The new blade on the reconstructed theatre was situated much tighter to the building.
And is the same structure that today supports the Hugo’s Frog Bar vertical sign.
Indeed. I’ve probably learned more from CT, than I did in school.
By chaos I meant an erronious movie time, further confused by a movie of the same name as the theater.
Maybe the newspaper ad anyway.
I guess running the remake of “3:10 to Yuma” could have caused chaos.
To reaffirm JohnG409’s 2005 post, an evening shot of the UA Crossbay marquee was used in the Christmas 2005 episode of “King Of Queens”. Just caught a rerun.
Interior shots were likely done in a studio. As they always seemed to utilize the same red seats in all episodes involving a theater.