Cinerama Hollywood

6360 Sunset Boulevard,
Los Angeles, CA 90028

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CSWalczak
CSWalczak on June 17, 2010 at 4:23 pm

That is what we were told during the introduction to HTWWW during the showings during the Cinerama revival in the 1990s in Dayton. If memory serves, we were told that there were basically four noticeable 70mm sequences so we could look for them and note the difference in color intensity and graininess: 1) the whitewater sequence when the Prescott raft takes the wrong fork in the river; 2) two short segments during the Civil War section (which were outtakes from “Raintree County” which was filmed in 70mm), and 3) a brief segment from “The Alamo” during one of Spencer Tracy’s narrative sequences. There may have been a few others, but the film is clearly over 95% three-lens, and although the print that was shown was that owned by John Harvey, pieced carefully together from several other prints, there’s no question that it was a Techinicolor IB print.

The Harvey print of “This is Cinerama,” also pieced together from other prints, did seem to have some Eastman-printed stock in it, notably a brief center-panel portion with German subtitling that was pinkish, though the vast majority was clearly a Technicolor IB print. It would not surprise me if the first print runs of “This is Cinerama” were IB prints, and that later print runs and subtitled prints used Eastman stock.

delta
delta on June 17, 2010 at 2:44 pm

Most of HTWWW was filmed with 3 lenses. Only a small portion in 70mm for practical reasons. The print of HTWWW at Bradford is superb.

GFeret
GFeret on June 17, 2010 at 12:46 pm

ok, but i’m a little surprised re. HTWWW in IB 3-strip, since so much of it was lensed 70mm and then optically divided

as for this’s cinerama i’d seen a faded eastman panel in the past but that film had re-releases back then

CSWalczak
CSWalczak on June 16, 2010 at 5:35 pm

IB Technicolor prints were struck for both “This Cinerama” and “How the West Was Won” in 3-strip;
John Harvey showed both of his during the Cinerama revival in Dayton.

GFeret
GFeret on June 16, 2010 at 3:12 pm

spectacular house if there but once, 1984, saw Ron Howards' SPLASH!

i can only imagine seeing a 3-strip cinerama print there of WONDERFUL WORLD OF THE BROS. GRIMM if one from the original release remain, since unlike the other 3-strips that one was print dye-transfer IB Technicolor

William
William on June 3, 2010 at 5:51 pm

The only D-150 screens installed in the Los Angeles area were the one in the former UA Egyptian Theatre and the test theatre in Santa Monica the former Fox Rosemary. The Dome’s screen is not a D-150 screen.

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on June 3, 2010 at 5:22 pm

The “replacement” screen at Seattle Cinerama is not flat. It is curved. I saw the screen for myself back in Christmas 2005 during a visit out there.

CSWalczak
CSWalczak on May 26, 2010 at 1:43 am

I meant to add that, had Pacific been really serious about preserving the heritage of Cinerama at the Dome, it would have engineered a solution comparable to what was done at the Seattle Cinerama and the National Media Museum/Pictureville Cinema in Bradford, England: place a high quality flat screen that could be masked appropriately in front of genuine Cinerama screen that could be moved up or away for Cinerama or special showings. I am sure though that this would not have been deemed to be “cost effective.”

CSWalczak
CSWalczak on May 26, 2010 at 1:23 am

I don’t think the screen at the Cinerama Dome is an actual D-150 screen although it is obviously very similar to one as it is a single sheet and not as deeply curved as the original louvered Cinerama screens. The D-150 company was pretty much defunct by the 1980s and only two films were produced (“The Bible..In the Beginning” and “Patton”). I don’t know what company made the screen currently installed at the Dome; the original D-150 screens were made by the Harkness Corporation in London, which still exists, but I’d bet they haven’t made a true D-150 screen in decades. Most of the louvered Cinerama screens were made by Hurley in Maryland (and they apparently still can make them, as they created one for the New Neon theater in Dayton, OH for the Cinerama revival there during the later 1990s). When the Dome was remodeled, Pacific would not install a louvered screen which would have at least reduced the cross reflection (against the protests of Hollywood Heritage and other preservationists), claiming that there would not be any noticeable difference to the viewer. Not so.

There was, briefly a flat screen installed in the Dome prior to the remodel (for the run of “Evita”) in front of the original curved screen. It looked awful.

segask
segask on May 26, 2010 at 12:24 am

That D-150 screen also reflects on itself and causes a washed out image.

The domed ceiling still causes sound to bounce around and mess up the stereo/surround sound imaging. Depending on where you sit dialog that’s supposed to be coming from the screen can sound like its floating in the air.

I don’t get it. I don’t get why people are actually fans of the Dome. The picture is distorted and washed out. The surround sound field is also distorted.

I believe Pacific wanted to convert the Dome to a stadium seating auditorium with a flat screen and flat ceiling when they built the Arclight auditoriums didn’t they?

LawMann
LawMann on May 24, 2010 at 12:22 pm

Of course the Chinese is always the best theatre to see movies because the picture and sound are always up to presentation standards. The Dome’s pitfall is the D-150 screen that distorts the image and blurs it on the sides. Other than that the sound is great and the seating comfy.

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on May 9, 2010 at 8:03 pm

Iron Man 2 kicked butt in the Dome for its maiden midnight show. Robert Downey Jr. & Jon Favreau introduced the screening. Needless to say, we all had a geekgasm!

Picture/sound were up to the usual high standards.

William
William on April 1, 2010 at 3:37 pm

Yes Mission Control we have video.

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on February 23, 2010 at 5:54 pm

Full house on Saturday 2/20 for “Shutter Island.” I didn’t like the movie but everyone else did. I have no idea what projectors they used but picture/sound were awesome.

Danny Baldwin
Danny Baldwin on February 14, 2010 at 7:27 pm

I wonder if they’ll continue to use both projectors for 2D presentations like “Shutter Island” to provide a brighter image? That’d be great.

Cliffs
Cliffs on December 22, 2009 at 4:09 pm

Hit the Thursday midnight and Avatar looked amazing. The screen was bright and colorful and the movie was beautiful to look at. They were using high tech electronic glasses, not the polarized plastic jobs you get at the El Capitan and everywhere else (I want to say they were ‘XtenD 3D’ but I don’t think that is right). The 3D was extremely effective, even near the back of the auditorium. The geometry of the screen doesn’t really change and there was one line of subtitles that was slightly cut off at the bottom of the screen (literally the word ‘no’), but I can’t say I ever found it distracting. It was a great presentation and Arclight really went out of their way to make it a great show. I was a little hesitant about how the 3D would look on that curved screen, but it looked great.

socal09
socal09 on December 21, 2009 at 6:36 pm

THE best place to see a movie in LA.

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on December 21, 2009 at 6:33 pm

Any reports from the Avatar 3D Dome screenings?

KramSacul
KramSacul on December 16, 2009 at 10:21 pm

And for you to complain about me complaining. Nice to see you venture out of the usual forums. ;–)

Cliffs
Cliffs on December 16, 2009 at 9:32 am

Don’t worry, I’m sure if they fix the cross reflections and geometry distortions, you’ll have no problem finding something else to complain out,

KramSacul
KramSacul on December 16, 2009 at 6:05 am

Apparently the screen has also been upgraded for optimal brightness. Now if only they could fix the cross reflections and geometry distortions I would consider watching a movie in there again.

Danny Baldwin
Danny Baldwin on December 16, 2009 at 1:51 am

The Dome has been outfitted with a second 2k projector to increase brightness for 3D. It’ll probably still look dim, though…

Here’s a bit of a promotional video, posted to ArcLight’s Facebook, on the update: View link

KramSacul
KramSacul on December 5, 2009 at 7:38 am

Apparently Avatar will be showing in 3-D in the Dome. I’m not sure how this could be close to being satisfactory as even regular 2-D projection is dim.

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on November 11, 2009 at 6:54 pm

OOPS…that’s “loud enough for you to HEAR!”

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on November 11, 2009 at 6:53 pm

Mark: I must not have said “Damn!” or “Go on, Mike!” loud enough for you to here. Cause I know I was among the catcallers! :)