I think I first saw ‘Attack of the Crab Monsters’ in 1962 or 63 on Channel 9.
Stephen King, in his 1980 book “Danse Macabre”, his non-fiction overview of the horror genre from 1950 to 1980, identifies “Crab Monsters” as one of Corman’s “meatloaf” movies, and says that Corman came out of his cocoon, and started producing quality films, with his 1963 film “The Man With The X-Ray Eyes”, which I saw with my parents at the RKO Madison Theater in early 1964.
But I think that moment in Corman’s career may have come earlier with his film “Not Of This Earth”, starring Paul Birch, a year or two after “Crab Monsters”.
Corman went on to direct visually beautiful, but loosely based, film versions of Edgar Allan Poe horror short stories like “Ligeia”, “The Masque Of The Ed Death”, “The Premature Burial” (which I saw at the RKO Madison in spring 1962)“The Fall Of The House Of Usher”, “The Raven” and “The Pit And The Pendulum”, their screenplays written mostly by horror, sci fi and fantasy master Richard Matheson.
I’m not worried, Lost Memory. I refuse to be manipulated into a defensive position, because, once there, one is a sitting duck for even more manipulation. Let Warren defend HIS position, and produce our school records on this page to prove his point. Needless to say, he can’t, because 1) he could not possibly have access to them and 2)I think it’s against NY state law to reproduce them here.
I just commented to Bway in a private e-mail that there was probably a “Warren” out for my arrest. Not that I owe him any explanation, due to his wrong, arrogant and presumptuous attack on my character (please keep it up; the more you continue to reveal your true colors, the better), but I always received an “A” in conduct in school.
BklynJim, I agree with you on all points about “The Dead Zone”. The Martin Sheen character, Greg Stillson’s, suicide, was similar to that of the self-righteous prison warden (or is it Warren ?) in “The Shawshank Redemption”.
As to Election Day, I leave you and everyone else with the words of Robin Williams from the current film “Man Of The Year” :
“Politicians are like diapers : they should be changed frequently, and for the same reason.”
“Bilge Squared”, a place on this site for “OT” discussion, could be called “Bilge Square”, similar to “Hangover Square” (great film noir with a great Bernard Herrmann score).
Last recent movie I saw at home on DVD was 2004’s “I, Robot”. The last film I saw in the cinema was the original “Psycho” at the BAM Rose Cinema this past Saturday July 15th. I could discuss the latter film endlessly, but Halloween was six days ago, and I don’t want to beat it to death.
frankie, I know what you mean, but I think it will take more than our collective patronage and talking to the staff to keep the Ridgewood open, let alone landmark and preserve it.
I agree with the sentiments and idead that EdSolero, ‘Tonino, Bway and Lost Memory have expressed. I couldn’t have said them better myself. I also think it’s signigicant that this debate is taking place on the Ridgewood Theater page, and that said page is one of the longest, if not THE longest, on the Cinema Treasures site.
Both facts seem to echo the long and illustrious history of the Ridgewood Theater itself, and appropriately so.
I’m also glad we have the attention of two members of CT management : Mile Zoldessy and Patrick Crowley. Thank you, gentlemen, for your attention, assistance, and interest in these important matters.
As to the Ridgewood Theater itself : what is the current status of the effort(s) to landmark and preserve it, or to at least help it stay in business ? How is it doing right now ?
How about Bufferin, if it’s still made ? It might be easier on the stomach than some of the posts on this thread.
To keep this on the topic, earlier this week, the Stones were supposed to play the Beacon Theater, at 74th and Bway in Manhattan, and didn’t, because Jagger lost his voice, and were sued as a result, so forget about them playing at the Ridgewood Theater, however good and enjoyable that would be.
Thanks, Warren. I suppose the Halsey Theater was the one on Halsey Street, near Saratoga Avenue, between Broadway and Fulton Street, for which a page exists on this site, and at which the young Jackie Gleason got his start in show biz about seventy years ago.
Yes, mikemovies, I agree. In the interview I heard on WNYC in October 1994, Faithfull said that late 1969-early 1970, when “Sister Morphine” was composed and recorded, was a very unhappy period in her life when she wanted seriously to kill herself.
Yes, the hit song “Brown Sugar” starts off the album “Sticky Fingers”. It was recorded during the Stones' November-December 1969 USA tour and premiered at Altamont, December 6, 1969, at Mick Taylor’s suggestion, the infamous gig that ended that tour.
We hear an alternate mix (more lead guitar from Taylor)in the film “Gimme Shelter”, in the motel room scene (Keith : “Is anybody in ? Is my local groupie in ? Hello, darling, how are you ?”)in which the Stones, Ronnie Schneider and Jo Bergmann listen to a tape of it, after Keith puts it on and then mumbles something indistinct. Jagger asks, “When are the bags coming up, Ronnie ?” and someone says “Stu [ian Stewart]’s bringing up forty six pieces.”
Thanks, mikemovies. The Stones also had their own version of “As Tears Go By”, which was critically blasted as the Stones blatant copying of Paul McCartney’s “Yesterday”, because of the string backing.
“Sister Morphine”, another Jagger-Richards-Faithfull collaboration, appeared on “Sticky Fingers” in April or May 1971. I first heard Faithfull’s version on WNYC 93.9 FM’s superb interview show “Fresh Air” in October 1994.
Yes, Keith was not only still alive when Marianne had sex with him, in the mid-1960’s, but he may also still have had all his natural adult teeth, before he started losing them to drug use. In the film, “Gimme Shelter”, when he’s shown in closeup, smiling, at Muscle Shoals, he looks like he has pyorrhea. Ditto the inner sleeve photo of “Sticky Fingers”.
Keith will be 63 years of age this coming December 18th, but, yes, he looks more like 163. A friend of mine once said something similar in a newsletter of his.
Translator thingy ? Like the “Universal translator” of Star Trek ? Make people sound talking backwards like Master Yoda ?
If Warren complains about this off-topic Stones-related discussion, it will be analagous to Detective Sergeant Norman Pilcher busting Mick, Keith and Marianne at Keith’s Redlands home for drug use in February 1967.
Who’s the naked girl wrapped up in the fur rug ?
BTW, I never saw “Stoned”, the Brian Jones bio pic starring Leo Gregory as same, at the Sunshine Cinema in SoHo, in late February of this year.
That’s EXACTLY what it looks like, Lost Memory. Thanks for doing this research.
African north, eh ? Morocco, Tangier, where in 1967 Anita Pallenberg switched from Brian Jones to the relative security of life with Keith Richards.
Just an idea and never filmed, unlike “Performance”, another Jagger-Richards-Pallenberg collaboration, which was filmed, in which Jagger played a retired rock star named Turner, supposedly a combination of Brian and Keith.
Faithfull had sex with Jagger, Richards and Jones, before deciding Jagger was her best bet.
To be followed by “Battle Of The Bilious Bilge Boobies” !
Thanks, Lost Memory. I think we can combine meat loaf and seafood here as “surf ‘n turf”.
You’re right, Corman’s low-budget films now on DVD shouldn’t break the budget of your average 50’s B movie fan.
Now, who’s taking bets on how long this conversation can go on before we suffer another “Attack Of The Self-Appointed Censor” ?
Thanks, JKane. I wasn’t sure about the year of ‘Not of This Earth’s release.
What was “Teenage Doll” about ? Anything like “Dr. Cyclops” or “Attack Of The Pupper People” ?
I know what you mean about the idea outweighing the execution in “Crab Monsters”. I feel the same way about “Star Trek V : The Final Frontier”.
I think I first saw ‘Attack of the Crab Monsters’ in 1962 or 63 on Channel 9.
Stephen King, in his 1980 book “Danse Macabre”, his non-fiction overview of the horror genre from 1950 to 1980, identifies “Crab Monsters” as one of Corman’s “meatloaf” movies, and says that Corman came out of his cocoon, and started producing quality films, with his 1963 film “The Man With The X-Ray Eyes”, which I saw with my parents at the RKO Madison Theater in early 1964.
But I think that moment in Corman’s career may have come earlier with his film “Not Of This Earth”, starring Paul Birch, a year or two after “Crab Monsters”.
Corman went on to direct visually beautiful, but loosely based, film versions of Edgar Allan Poe horror short stories like “Ligeia”, “The Masque Of The Ed Death”, “The Premature Burial” (which I saw at the RKO Madison in spring 1962)“The Fall Of The House Of Usher”, “The Raven” and “The Pit And The Pendulum”, their screenplays written mostly by horror, sci fi and fantasy master Richard Matheson.
Chances are …. Johnny Mathis
Good points, Theaterat and Bway, and so, so apropos to Election Day !
As we approach Veterans Day, let’s stop running both the “bad movie”, as Bway called it, and end the war within Cinema Treasures.
“Someone else could come up with the Ridgewood photos and that person would get all of the accolades. Wouldn’t that be a heartbreaker ?”
Monica ? KenRoe ? Bway ?
Yes, mikemovies, pass me the tissues while I cry my eyes out over not seeing the 1930 photos, which I won’t believe until I see through my tears.
I’m not worried, Lost Memory. I refuse to be manipulated into a defensive position, because, once there, one is a sitting duck for even more manipulation. Let Warren defend HIS position, and produce our school records on this page to prove his point. Needless to say, he can’t, because 1) he could not possibly have access to them and 2)I think it’s against NY state law to reproduce them here.
I just commented to Bway in a private e-mail that there was probably a “Warren” out for my arrest. Not that I owe him any explanation, due to his wrong, arrogant and presumptuous attack on my character (please keep it up; the more you continue to reveal your true colors, the better), but I always received an “A” in conduct in school.
BklynJim, I agree with you on all points about “The Dead Zone”. The Martin Sheen character, Greg Stillson’s, suicide, was similar to that of the self-righteous prison warden (or is it Warren ?) in “The Shawshank Redemption”.
As to Election Day, I leave you and everyone else with the words of Robin Williams from the current film “Man Of The Year” :
“Politicians are like diapers : they should be changed frequently, and for the same reason.”
“Bilge Squared”, a place on this site for “OT” discussion, could be called “Bilge Square”, similar to “Hangover Square” (great film noir with a great Bernard Herrmann score).
Last recent movie I saw at home on DVD was 2004’s “I, Robot”. The last film I saw in the cinema was the original “Psycho” at the BAM Rose Cinema this past Saturday July 15th. I could discuss the latter film endlessly, but Halloween was six days ago, and I don’t want to beat it to death.
frankie, I know what you mean, but I think it will take more than our collective patronage and talking to the staff to keep the Ridgewood open, let alone landmark and preserve it.
Like you, no one else is me but me.
Good point, EdSolero, about “bilge squared” (the bilge about the bilge).
I agree, mikemovies. Thanks.
I agree with the sentiments and idead that EdSolero, ‘Tonino, Bway and Lost Memory have expressed. I couldn’t have said them better myself. I also think it’s signigicant that this debate is taking place on the Ridgewood Theater page, and that said page is one of the longest, if not THE longest, on the Cinema Treasures site.
Both facts seem to echo the long and illustrious history of the Ridgewood Theater itself, and appropriately so.
I’m also glad we have the attention of two members of CT management : Mile Zoldessy and Patrick Crowley. Thank you, gentlemen, for your attention, assistance, and interest in these important matters.
As to the Ridgewood Theater itself : what is the current status of the effort(s) to landmark and preserve it, or to at least help it stay in business ? How is it doing right now ?
How about Bufferin, if it’s still made ? It might be easier on the stomach than some of the posts on this thread.
To keep this on the topic, earlier this week, the Stones were supposed to play the Beacon Theater, at 74th and Bway in Manhattan, and didn’t, because Jagger lost his voice, and were sued as a result, so forget about them playing at the Ridgewood Theater, however good and enjoyable that would be.
Yes, let’s remove the photo from the page; it messes it up like Bway posted.
Oh hi Warren, maybe YOU can tell me what Keith Richard(s) was mumbling when he put on that tape of the then-newly recorded “Brown Sugar”.
Thanks, Warren, for also posting this on the Halsey Theater page.
I see Jackie Gleason got started in show biz here in 1931, not 1936.
Thanks, Warren. I suppose the Halsey Theater was the one on Halsey Street, near Saratoga Avenue, between Broadway and Fulton Street, for which a page exists on this site, and at which the young Jackie Gleason got his start in show biz about seventy years ago.
Yes, mikemovies, I agree. In the interview I heard on WNYC in October 1994, Faithfull said that late 1969-early 1970, when “Sister Morphine” was composed and recorded, was a very unhappy period in her life when she wanted seriously to kill herself.
Yes, the hit song “Brown Sugar” starts off the album “Sticky Fingers”. It was recorded during the Stones' November-December 1969 USA tour and premiered at Altamont, December 6, 1969, at Mick Taylor’s suggestion, the infamous gig that ended that tour.
We hear an alternate mix (more lead guitar from Taylor)in the film “Gimme Shelter”, in the motel room scene (Keith : “Is anybody in ? Is my local groupie in ? Hello, darling, how are you ?”)in which the Stones, Ronnie Schneider and Jo Bergmann listen to a tape of it, after Keith puts it on and then mumbles something indistinct. Jagger asks, “When are the bags coming up, Ronnie ?” and someone says “Stu [ian Stewart]’s bringing up forty six pieces.”
Thanks, mikemovies. The Stones also had their own version of “As Tears Go By”, which was critically blasted as the Stones blatant copying of Paul McCartney’s “Yesterday”, because of the string backing.
“Sister Morphine”, another Jagger-Richards-Faithfull collaboration, appeared on “Sticky Fingers” in April or May 1971. I first heard Faithfull’s version on WNYC 93.9 FM’s superb interview show “Fresh Air” in October 1994.
Yes, Keith was not only still alive when Marianne had sex with him, in the mid-1960’s, but he may also still have had all his natural adult teeth, before he started losing them to drug use. In the film, “Gimme Shelter”, when he’s shown in closeup, smiling, at Muscle Shoals, he looks like he has pyorrhea. Ditto the inner sleeve photo of “Sticky Fingers”.
Keith will be 63 years of age this coming December 18th, but, yes, he looks more like 163. A friend of mine once said something similar in a newsletter of his.
Translator thingy ? Like the “Universal translator” of Star Trek ? Make people sound talking backwards like Master Yoda ?
If Warren complains about this off-topic Stones-related discussion, it will be analagous to Detective Sergeant Norman Pilcher busting Mick, Keith and Marianne at Keith’s Redlands home for drug use in February 1967.
Who’s the naked girl wrapped up in the fur rug ?
BTW, I never saw “Stoned”, the Brian Jones bio pic starring Leo Gregory as same, at the Sunshine Cinema in SoHo, in late February of this year.
That’s EXACTLY what it looks like, Lost Memory. Thanks for doing this research.
African north, eh ? Morocco, Tangier, where in 1967 Anita Pallenberg switched from Brian Jones to the relative security of life with Keith Richards.
Just an idea and never filmed, unlike “Performance”, another Jagger-Richards-Pallenberg collaboration, which was filmed, in which Jagger played a retired rock star named Turner, supposedly a combination of Brian and Keith.
Faithfull had sex with Jagger, Richards and Jones, before deciding Jagger was her best bet.
Perhaps only released in Europe, Lost Memory. You’re a few years older than me and hence perhaps better able to track this.
Or maybe, like “Robot Monster”, it was never released, but merely escaped, only, unlike “Robot Monster”, it escaped in the form of bootleg copies.