Yes Fiscal, have the city accept the grants. Then demolish the theater. Do you want to see this get really ugly? Get the state and federal government invovled because the city used that grant money for a project it was not intended for. Fiscal, I must say that you are an idiot.
Challenger will you give up on the $1200 thing? You have been proven wrong about that every time you say it. Another question, has the city ever put the theater up for sale?
Challenger, have you personally talked to all 40,000 people in Lombard to find out there views on this theater? Have you even talked to 1000? If you haven’t, how do you know that most people feel the way you do?
Challenger, the signs are there to show support. Maybe those people where planning to give money once renovation started. Ask any group that has done a renovation and they will tell you that they got more money once the renovation started than they had managed to collect before.
Why does it matter if some of the signatures collected are not from Lombard? If they where collected in the city, don’t you think that that means these people would be willing to come see a show or something in the theater? And why do those people need to be registered voters? Those people that aren’t still pay taxes.
I also do not support the “Freinds” idea of “all or nothing”. I believe that they have helped to destroy the theater by not pushing for adaptive reuse when their plan failed. I hate to see a piece of history lost, and yes this is a historic theater. It was designed by the firm of Rapp and Rapp in an atmospheric style, a style the rarely used.
If the building is in good condition, I believe it should be preserved, in some form or another. I don’t think that the preservation of this building must be as a theater, it could be a library, store, etc. If the interior is destroyed, then keep the facade and marquee. It just seems to me that people in this town has something against this theater.
Challenger and DebDupe, I never mentioned a Wal-Mart. I know that Wal-Mart requires a large site, and they prefer to build on the outskirts of town. I was think that most likely a pharmacy like CVS or Walgreens would move on the site. I would have considered visiting Lombard, but what would be there for me to visit without the Dupage?
Also much of the actual movie equipment, such as projectors and sound systems, was probably removed by Kerasotas. The company has a history of doing such things, so it wouldn’t suprise me if they did it here.
Paul, if you are looking for a theater company to help, try The Stage Company. They where recently kicked out of Carbondale’s old opera house, because the bank that owns it didn’t want to pay for repairs and decided to demolish it. I think they breifly considered the Varsity, but decided that it would be best if they built there own theater. Perhaps if they could find a partner to share the renovation costs, they would be interested in the Varsity.
As you all know, I support this theater. Though I would love to see this theater saved, I hope that if they are tearing it down that it happens soon. I want to see what happens to the site. Most likely, a big box store will move in. I am not saying this as a “scare tactic” I am saying this as the truth. Those companies wait for something like this to happen and pounce as soon as the lot is clear. I have seen it happen.
I understand the reasons people opposed the condos, and I don’t have a problem with that. It seemed to me though, that she opposed the condos because she wanted the building for the library. If that is the case, then I have a problem with that. Those that wanted the building for a library should have stayed out of the debate until the “Friends” lost. Then they should have gone after the building. I think that since both sides tried to sabatoge the others plans, they both have now lost.
Robert I must agree. It is sad that this theater will now meet with the wrecking ball. I just hope that they do keep something from the theater so future citizens can see what a big mistake they are making. It is too bad that both sides couldn’t agree and where so set on seeing there side win that this theater will be destroyed. And a question for Ms. Schoff, Why did you opposed the condo plan?
Why is this on this site? It has nothing to do with this theater. Why doesn’t “goaway” take his own advise and GO AWAY! I am glad someone has actually taken interest in this theater, since no one else has. And if Mr. Warshauer can convince Kerasotas to sell this theater before it falls to pieces, he will be my hero!
Unfortunely this theater is now closed. Mr. Ivy had a stroke, probably not too many days after Mr. Bodkin attended. Since the theater is run my Mr. Ivy and a couple employees, his family decided to close the theater until he is well again. They are currently unaware of when the theater will open again, but they hope is does soon.
They “Friends” should take part of the blame, as should the city. While I do not agree with the “Friends” tactics I still must support there goal. As for their inaccuracies, I’m sure there are some, but I don’t believe I can trust you to tell me every one of them. As to not having a fundraiser, how can you have one when the city is going to tear the building down anyway? No one wants to donate to a project that isn’t going to happen.
I have donated nothing. I live about 6 hours away. I felt that since this website is a NATIONAL website for theater FANS, that I could make comments that I felt where positive. I only planned on making one comment, but after Fiscal Insanity decided to attack what I said, I made more. I can’t get my facts straight because no one on this site is willing to give credible facts. I might not be a “preservationist” in your terms, and you are definenly not one in my terms. I have also stated many times that I have no problem with the city not paying for the renovation. Maybe YOU should get the facts straight as to what I have said.
You are one of these anti-preservation people Challenger. No they are not an organized group. As to them meeting, I don’t really know. I find it funny that you seem to think I know so much about the “anti-preservation” people, when you claim to know every little detail about the “Freinds”.
I have stated several times that I am not from Lombard. I am a lover of old theater and also am very interested in historic preservation. The only reason I even started posting comments was that the details of this theater’s demolition where similiar to some events that are happening around my hometown.
I think both sides are telling lies. Both sides are so intent on their side being the side that wins that they will say anything to get attention. Take for instance the “Friends” calling council memebers names! And the other side seems stuck on the theater raising taxes no matter who renovates. I think both sides have lost site of what is at stake. It is sad that neither side is willing to corporate and save the theater.
They have a plan, but don’t want the citizens to know. I saw this same thing where I live. The mayor wanted to tear down the old city hall, because it was dangerous. In reality he just wanted a parking lot for the business he owned next door. Fortunely the council changed their demolition order and sold the building.
It still seems that if someone was willing to cut a check, the anti-theater side would still question if they could pay for it all. I still firmly believe this is an anti-theater issue.
I know that the Dupe was not to be a movie theater, but it seemed to me that it was going to still be a theater. Why incorporate pieces of the theater if you do not save the facade? It also seems to me that the city is not interested in the site for the library either. What bothers me about this is it seems that there is some kind of deal going on behind the scenes. If someone was going to give the money to seal the theater for six months, why not take it? And I want someone to tell me what kind of plan had to be developed in order to save it. It seemed that every plan from various groups and developers was rejected because “it might raise taxes”. It seems to me that this is not really a anti-tax issue, but an anti-theater issue.
Yes Fiscal, have the city accept the grants. Then demolish the theater. Do you want to see this get really ugly? Get the state and federal government invovled because the city used that grant money for a project it was not intended for. Fiscal, I must say that you are an idiot.
Challenger will you give up on the $1200 thing? You have been proven wrong about that every time you say it. Another question, has the city ever put the theater up for sale?
Challenger, have you personally talked to all 40,000 people in Lombard to find out there views on this theater? Have you even talked to 1000? If you haven’t, how do you know that most people feel the way you do?
Challenger, the signs are there to show support. Maybe those people where planning to give money once renovation started. Ask any group that has done a renovation and they will tell you that they got more money once the renovation started than they had managed to collect before.
Why does it matter if some of the signatures collected are not from Lombard? If they where collected in the city, don’t you think that that means these people would be willing to come see a show or something in the theater? And why do those people need to be registered voters? Those people that aren’t still pay taxes.
I also do not support the “Freinds” idea of “all or nothing”. I believe that they have helped to destroy the theater by not pushing for adaptive reuse when their plan failed. I hate to see a piece of history lost, and yes this is a historic theater. It was designed by the firm of Rapp and Rapp in an atmospheric style, a style the rarely used.
If the building is in good condition, I believe it should be preserved, in some form or another. I don’t think that the preservation of this building must be as a theater, it could be a library, store, etc. If the interior is destroyed, then keep the facade and marquee. It just seems to me that people in this town has something against this theater.
Challenger and DebDupe, I never mentioned a Wal-Mart. I know that Wal-Mart requires a large site, and they prefer to build on the outskirts of town. I was think that most likely a pharmacy like CVS or Walgreens would move on the site. I would have considered visiting Lombard, but what would be there for me to visit without the Dupage?
Also much of the actual movie equipment, such as projectors and sound systems, was probably removed by Kerasotas. The company has a history of doing such things, so it wouldn’t suprise me if they did it here.
Paul, if you are looking for a theater company to help, try The Stage Company. They where recently kicked out of Carbondale’s old opera house, because the bank that owns it didn’t want to pay for repairs and decided to demolish it. I think they breifly considered the Varsity, but decided that it would be best if they built there own theater. Perhaps if they could find a partner to share the renovation costs, they would be interested in the Varsity.
As you all know, I support this theater. Though I would love to see this theater saved, I hope that if they are tearing it down that it happens soon. I want to see what happens to the site. Most likely, a big box store will move in. I am not saying this as a “scare tactic” I am saying this as the truth. Those companies wait for something like this to happen and pounce as soon as the lot is clear. I have seen it happen.
I understand the reasons people opposed the condos, and I don’t have a problem with that. It seemed to me though, that she opposed the condos because she wanted the building for the library. If that is the case, then I have a problem with that. Those that wanted the building for a library should have stayed out of the debate until the “Friends” lost. Then they should have gone after the building. I think that since both sides tried to sabatoge the others plans, they both have now lost.
I should have written “their side winning” in my previous comment.
No, the whole interior was destroyed because of a leaky roof. The only thing that could be preserved is the marquee out front.
Robert I must agree. It is sad that this theater will now meet with the wrecking ball. I just hope that they do keep something from the theater so future citizens can see what a big mistake they are making. It is too bad that both sides couldn’t agree and where so set on seeing there side win that this theater will be destroyed. And a question for Ms. Schoff, Why did you opposed the condo plan?
Why is this on this site? It has nothing to do with this theater. Why doesn’t “goaway” take his own advise and GO AWAY! I am glad someone has actually taken interest in this theater, since no one else has. And if Mr. Warshauer can convince Kerasotas to sell this theater before it falls to pieces, he will be my hero!
Unfortunely this theater is now closed. Mr. Ivy had a stroke, probably not too many days after Mr. Bodkin attended. Since the theater is run my Mr. Ivy and a couple employees, his family decided to close the theater until he is well again. They are currently unaware of when the theater will open again, but they hope is does soon.
They “Friends” should take part of the blame, as should the city. While I do not agree with the “Friends” tactics I still must support there goal. As for their inaccuracies, I’m sure there are some, but I don’t believe I can trust you to tell me every one of them. As to not having a fundraiser, how can you have one when the city is going to tear the building down anyway? No one wants to donate to a project that isn’t going to happen.
I have donated nothing. I live about 6 hours away. I felt that since this website is a NATIONAL website for theater FANS, that I could make comments that I felt where positive. I only planned on making one comment, but after Fiscal Insanity decided to attack what I said, I made more. I can’t get my facts straight because no one on this site is willing to give credible facts. I might not be a “preservationist” in your terms, and you are definenly not one in my terms. I have also stated many times that I have no problem with the city not paying for the renovation. Maybe YOU should get the facts straight as to what I have said.
You are one of these anti-preservation people Challenger. No they are not an organized group. As to them meeting, I don’t really know. I find it funny that you seem to think I know so much about the “anti-preservation” people, when you claim to know every little detail about the “Freinds”.
I have stated several times that I am not from Lombard. I am a lover of old theater and also am very interested in historic preservation. The only reason I even started posting comments was that the details of this theater’s demolition where similiar to some events that are happening around my hometown.
It also seems to me that the anti-preservation people are hell-bent on dividing the town. After all, it takes two sides in order to divide something!
I think both sides are telling lies. Both sides are so intent on their side being the side that wins that they will say anything to get attention. Take for instance the “Friends” calling council memebers names! And the other side seems stuck on the theater raising taxes no matter who renovates. I think both sides have lost site of what is at stake. It is sad that neither side is willing to corporate and save the theater.
Well they must not have done a good job if bricks are falling off.
They have a plan, but don’t want the citizens to know. I saw this same thing where I live. The mayor wanted to tear down the old city hall, because it was dangerous. In reality he just wanted a parking lot for the business he owned next door. Fortunely the council changed their demolition order and sold the building.
It still seems that if someone was willing to cut a check, the anti-theater side would still question if they could pay for it all. I still firmly believe this is an anti-theater issue.
I know that the Dupe was not to be a movie theater, but it seemed to me that it was going to still be a theater. Why incorporate pieces of the theater if you do not save the facade? It also seems to me that the city is not interested in the site for the library either. What bothers me about this is it seems that there is some kind of deal going on behind the scenes. If someone was going to give the money to seal the theater for six months, why not take it? And I want someone to tell me what kind of plan had to be developed in order to save it. It seemed that every plan from various groups and developers was rejected because “it might raise taxes”. It seems to me that this is not really a anti-tax issue, but an anti-theater issue.