Loew's 46th Street Theatre

4515 New Utrecht Avenue,
Brooklyn, NY 11219

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Theaterat
Theaterat on January 18, 2006 at 8:18 am

sorry… typos above.

Theaterat
Theaterat on January 18, 2006 at 8:08 am

Zacherley- the “Cool Ghoul” did host a horror show in the early 60s. It was probably on channel 9, but I did remember it was on a Saturday night. The horror films he showed were absolutely terrible, but he somehow made them worth watching.One film he showed- I cant remember the title contained a scene Ill never rforget. When the detective investigating the case goes to the coroner`s morgue, he looks at the corpse. Then the coroner takes his lunch out of the case with the corpse and starts to eat it! Creepy, to say the least. Also remember Zacherley playinmg classic rock and roll on the old WPLJ in the late 70s and early 80s before that station went pop- top 40. Of course, Zacherley ALWAYS did the Halloween show on the old pre top 40 WPLJ.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 12, 2006 at 11:58 am

Like I said, PKoch… ABC might have picked up Rock Concert after that first season. You’re probably right about Creature Features' time slot, but I think that show bumped around a lot. I clearly remember watching a Creature Feature presentation of Christopher Lee in “Dracula Has Risen From the Grave” one Saturday afternoon when I was about 10 or 11. As for Chiller Theater, I mostly remember that after Zacherle’s departure when the intro was only the 6-fingered hand and that creepy music in the background – then that eerie voice saying “Chil-ler” – man, that really set the mood for one of those old fright flicks. WOR channel 9 had something called Fright Night which featured a skull with smoke coming out of its eyes and WABC channel 7 had the voice of John Carradine introducing their late night horror movies under the title Haunted Hollywood. Now I’m thinking that Vincent Price might have had a voice over on one of these kind of shows… but I can’t quite nail it down.

Sheesh… quite an addictive thing, this digression stuff!!! Can’t seem to stop it…

PKoch
PKoch on January 12, 2006 at 11:10 am

I still remember Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert being on WNEW Channel 5, 1973-1974, in NYC, and will need to see pages from the TV Guides of those years to convince me otherwise. I also remember “Creature Features” on Saturday night, 8:30 – 10:00, on WNEW Channel 5, 1969-1970, and Zacherle hosting the six-fingered hand Chiller Theater on WPIX Saturdays 7:30-9:00 PM, sort of a pre MST 3000, for example, showing the audience a piece of paper with “2 + 2 = 5” written on it, at the point in “Killers From Space” in which the bug-eyed zombies from space are showing the Peter Graves character their advanced equations.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 12, 2006 at 4:41 am

I have vague memories of Zacherly’s radio and TV hosting chores. While I was too young to have attended any of those shows, I have a Grateful Dead CD from the Fillmore East where the band is introduced by Zacherly – apparently in full macabre regalia as Phil Lesh is heard in the background saying “Nice to see you, Count Dracula” in an exaggerated Lugosi-like accent!

EcRocker
EcRocker on January 10, 2006 at 5:48 pm

LOL Ed sometimes the threads tend to drift when you think about old memories. Speaking of Chiller Theater i was looking at a web site the other day from Zackely. Remember him from WNEW FM and a few other stations as well as Ch 9, 11 and Discoteen on Ch 47 before it went spanish

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 10, 2006 at 5:14 pm

And so it is finally settled. So what was on channel 5 Saturday nights? Anyone remember “Creature Features” with its host “The Creep”? I think that may have been on Saturday mornings or early afternoon. I remember loving it as a kid but in retrospect, the movies were never really that scary (“The Crawling Eye” with Forrest Tucker? I mean come on…) and “The Creep” was just some middle age guy in a black turtleneck and big dark sunglasses with a monotone delivery. I preferred the six-fingered claymation hand that rose out of the swamp in those WPIX channel 11 “Chiller Theater” openers to set the mood for a good ole bad horror movie! “Frankenstein’s Bloody Terror!”

But.. what does this have to do with the Loew’s 46th Street? No more digression from me…

EcRocker
EcRocker on January 10, 2006 at 1:25 pm

Of all the places I looked up for info who would have thought i would have found it on www.humptheshark.com
Where it says slot really meant late Saturday night

Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert

First Show 1973
Last Show 1981
Genre Music
Network ABC
Slot Day Sunday
Slot Time 1 am

http://www.jumptheshark.com/d/donkirshner.htm

Ron Newman
Ron Newman on January 10, 2006 at 11:30 am

If I recall properly, “In Concert” was an ABC show. When it went off the air, “Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert” started up as a replacement, but was syndicated rather than network.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 10, 2006 at 11:07 am

Ouch… here’s the working link: http://imdb.com/title/tt0252784/combined

One more thought… Could ABC have picked this up after it aired on WNEW the first year?

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 10, 2006 at 11:05 am

Just to digress even further… I don’t know if there is a website that details history of local TV listings, but the imdb.com site lists ABC as distributor in the production credits for Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert. That would support East Coast’s assertion that the show was on WABC-TV channel 7 in New York. It’s possible, but doubtful, that the New York affiliate – which is owned by the network – wouldn’t carry its own production and allow it to compete on an independent station like Metromedia’s WNEW-TV channel 5.

Here’s the {url=http://imdb.com/title/tt0252784/combined]imdb page[/url].

jw10ec
jw10ec on January 10, 2006 at 9:35 am

but you guys do digress.

PKoch
PKoch on January 10, 2006 at 9:22 am

Just to make sure we are not arguing at cross purposes mis-informed, I remember Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert being broadcast on WNEW Channel 5 in New York City, starting mid-September 1973.

A few memories of “In Concert” :

Focus, performing their Top Twenty hit, “Hocus Pocus”, Friday April 13, 1973. In retrospect, the lead vocalist reminded me of Robert “Waddy” Wachtel, but I don’t know if it was him.

Chuck Berry, about two weeks later. He performed “Carol” and “My Ding-A-Ling”, referring to the audience as “all my children”.

“The Midnight Special”, 1-2:30 AM, Saturday November 17, 1973 with David Bowie, Marianne Faithfull, and the 1980 “floor” show. A high point of slapstick was Bowie wearing false breasts with hands reaching around from behind.

PKoch
PKoch on January 10, 2006 at 4:47 am

No, East Coast Rocker, I distinctly remember Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert as being on WNEW Channel 5 from its inception. Go check a TV website if you don’t believe me, or to produce evidence to refute me.

EcRocker
EcRocker on January 9, 2006 at 11:15 am

Pkoch you are wrong. Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert was on ABC back then. It was a NETWORK show and back then Ch 5 was still an independant channel showing syndicated reruns.

I doubt that any network could produce a show with that kind of quality music that was out back when Rock Concert was taped.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 9, 2006 at 9:01 am

Yes… PKoch… I’m getting my shows mixed up. It was Sanborn’s show that I’m thinking of on NBC late nights. Jools Holland was part of the show… was it called “Night Music”? I think it started on Sunday nights but was then moved to weeknights. One show had the band Bongwater, Screaming Jay Hawkins, the Modern Jazz Quartet and Bob Weir in acoustic duet with bassist Rob Wasserman. At the end, all these musicians (or folks from each band) got together and jammed. Quite a bunch. And a great house band that included, if I recall, Omar Hakim on drums and Hiram Bullock on guitar (both of whom had been in Letterman’s original band when his late night talk show debuted on NBC in ‘82).

Anyway… I’m confusing that show with the show that Jools Holland did on his own in the ‘90’s. I think when I saw it recently on cable, it reminded me of the Sanborn show and resulted in my mistaking it for an offshoot or updating.

Not sure about the “In Concert” from ‘72 and '73, but there was definitely an identically named show in the '90’s on ABC. One episode featured footage from Grateful Dead concerts at Giants Stadium in NJ with a theme centered around the Dead’s efforts to conserve the Rainforest.

PKoch
PKoch on January 9, 2006 at 7:03 am

“In Concert” was on ABC Fridays at 11:30 PM starting in 1972 or 1973.
“The Midnight Special” was on NBC Saturdays from 1 to 2:30 a.m., “Friday Night”. Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert was on WNEW Channel 5 Saturdays starting 11:30 PM in mid-September 1973. The debut show featured Earth, Wind and Fire, The Doobie Brothers, Cross Country, and special guest stars …. THE ROLLING STONES !!!! (dubbed promotion videos for “Angie”, two of them, the first one, by itself, the second, with Jagger in a Little Lord Fauntleroy outfit, following dubbed videos of “Silver Train” and “Dancing With Mr. D”.)

The “Angie” videos had Mick Taylor sitting at the piano, with the string backing deleted from the soundtrack. All the videos had different vocals, and slightly different lead guitar, than the original backing tracks from “Goats Head Soup”, their then-latest album.

David Sanborn had a late-night talk show in 1989. I taped it on Sept. 3rd when he had Lou Reed and Mike Rathke with him and the holuse band doing “Dirty Blvd.” and “the national anthem”, “Walk On The Wild Side”, also Lou Reed and John Cale doing two “Songs For Drella” : “You’ve Got The Style It Takes” and “Nobody But You”, about the late Andy Warhol.

I subsequently saw Reed and Cale do “Nobody But You” on David Letterman’s show, but the performance was better on Sanborn’s.

I also saw Sanborn’s show when he had bassist and James Brown band alumnus Bootsie Collins as a guest, urging, “Dave, get ready to roll, Dave get ready to roll !”

Sanborn also played sax on the track “Pretty Beat Up” from the Stones' fall 1983 album “Under Cover”.

Theaterat
Theaterat on January 9, 2006 at 5:26 am

Wow!…I cant believe it was 40 years ago- almost to this day- that I went with my mother to see "Doctor Zhivago" at the 46Th. ST.A great film at an equally great theater. For some reason, I remember it like it was only a few weeks ago.Flashback to today, and Im hard pressed to find even one movie that is worth seeing.Bring back the old days and the great theaters!

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 9, 2006 at 5:13 am

East Coast… a history of hostility towards theater buffs on the part of the furniture store owner/manager has been noted in comments above. Thanks for the info. Yeah, I thought that Kirschner was on ABC, but I wasn’t 100% sure. I thought that maybe David Susskind’s interview show was on Channel 5 during that time slot, but I think Susskind’s show was on Sunday nights at 11:30. I’m still fuzzy on which show ran on which night. I’m thinking “Midnight Special” was Friday nights on NBC and “Rock Concert” was Saturdays on ABC.

ABC tried a show called “In Concert” for a while during the ‘90’s. I think they might have even had it on prime time at some point. And NBC used to carry an excellent and eclectic series on late nights called “Later” that was hosted by the former Squeeze keyboardist Jooles Holland. I recall that show mostly in the '80’s with David Sanborn as a co-host, but I have recently seen more recent episodes (featuring bands like Foo Fighters, Wilco and Coldplay) airing on the cable station Ovation. I think the show has been running in Britain for some time and only breifly made it on American network TV.

EcRocker
EcRocker on January 6, 2006 at 12:35 pm

Hi Ed. No. DK’s “Rock Concert” did about 8 or so shows at the 46th street in a period of 4 weeks. They would tape 2 shows a week with different acts. PKoch “Rock Concert” was shown in NYC on Ch 7 WABC not WNEW Ch5 as it was known back then. Also the last time i was near the place it called Rosenbergs Furnature and when i asked if I could have a look around I was also given the brush off even after i told them I used to do work there.

Last night while i was getting nastalgic looking up places I used to go to as a kid or saw boarded up made me realize that the day of the “Super Theatre” is long gone and just about over with certain exceptions. The mentality these days is that if they have that kind of space they will turn it in to a multiplex. It is sad for i love old theatres and most should be declared landmarks and preserved.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on January 6, 2006 at 8:01 am

Kirshner was also the man behind The Monkees! I remember the Rock Concert show. I recall it from the late ‘70’s mostly. If I’m not mistaken, it competed with a show called “Midnight Special” on WNBC channel 4 that featured Wolfman Jack as announcer and a variety of rotating guest hosts (I recall folks as diverse as Helen Reddy and Todd Rundgren taking turns). Both of these shows lasted until the very early '80’s – when the rising popularity of MTV probably took whatever remained of the wind out of their sails.

I forget which show it was, but one of them advertised that it would have the Grateful Dead on the following week – I was a burgeoning young Dead-Head at the time – and when I tuned in, it was merely some clips from the upcoming Grateful Dead movie that were shown. I’m trying to remember what the time slots were… I’m thinking Saturday nights, but then… channel 4 would have had Saturday Night Live on from 11:30 to 1am. Did they run on Friday night? I don’t think so…

Anyway… did Kirshner’s “Rock Concerts” always originate from the Loew’s 46th Street?

PKoch
PKoch on January 6, 2006 at 6:46 am

Thank you, East Coast Rocker ! I, too, remember Allison Steele The Night bird from WNEW FM 102.7. I saw her at a Janis Ian concert at the Wollman Rink in Central Park in July 1976.

I liked Don Kirshner’s “Rock Concert” on Channel 5, starting with its debut in mid-September 1973, however much I thought Kirshner himself, Mr. “I Dream Of Jeannie” music, being touted as a “rock impresario”, was ridiculous.

I think I saw Billy Crystal for the first time on Kirshner’s show in January 1977. Either that or SNL. He was really up, saying, “I feel great, my nipples are hard”, jogging in place, then he did his parody of high school drug scare movies, “Johnny : IT HAPPENED TO HIM ! IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU !”, starting with the kid jogging around the track, saying “Scholarship” to himself over and over.

EcRocker
EcRocker on January 5, 2006 at 6:57 pm

I used to go to movies at the 46th st in the 60’s and then later on in the early 70’s i got to see the Gratful Dead along with the New Riders of the Purple Sage with Jerry Garcia playing pedal steel for NRPS. I m et Micky Hearts grandmother who had baked a batch of Alice B Tokeless brownies and also met Allison Steele The Night bird from WNEW FM 102.7. I have fund memories of that show. I also wound up doing some stage work at the time Don Kirshners “Rock Concert” was being taped there.

Theaterat
Theaterat on October 28, 2005 at 6:39 am

Bway and EDR… It`s REALLY too bad that this did not happen. It would have been nice though.I guess it is good to dream, but reality is quite another subject. I have never been to the Ridgewood, but I quess that it is a miracle that it still can survive. Prehaps some day I will get there.

ERD
ERD on October 28, 2005 at 4:24 am

The manager (who is religous)of the now furniture-warehouse of former Loew’s 46th theatre is extremely negative and insulting when it has anything to do with the history of the building. He said, (See Theatrerat’s post of April 28th,2005)
“I am tired of wierdos and cultists trying to see what is left of the theatre. It is closed, and that is that!”