Ziegfeld Theatre

141 W. 54th Street,
New York, NY 10019

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MarkNYLA
MarkNYLA on October 5, 2007 at 4:56 pm

Can’t say. I came in during the pre-show. They did not close after the credit roll, and were not closed for full house lights.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on October 5, 2007 at 4:41 pm

Thanks. Did the Ziegfeld use the curtain before the pre-show today or not used at all?

In 2002, I saw a movie at the Toronto Uptown balcony screen. Lamb designed movie palace, but sadly demolished.

MarkNYLA
MarkNYLA on October 5, 2007 at 4:33 pm

Interesting. It was plenty loud at the 1:00pm show, almost too loud, I thought. I was seated about one-half way back in the center.

Both pre-show material and the feature are being shown from the same NEC digital projector. The 1:00 presentation was very clean and bright, with excellent sound. It seems clear that the soundtrack has been remixed for this, the backround effects are much more foward that I remember them.

There was no curtain close between the pre-show and the feature, I assume the projectionist is busy calling up the correct video files from the server or otherwise has his hands full.

I left the theatre thinking back on the last time I saw this film (the last theatrical release, the so-called “Director’s Cut”) on a big sheet, it was on the upstairs screen at the old Uptown Theatre on Bloor Street in Toronto, one of the nicest balcony conversions I’d ever been in. Rick Long was the projectionist. Long gone, sadly.

William
William on October 5, 2007 at 4:01 pm

We never had that problem in the First Run houses in Hollywood and Westwood, CA.. We told them that was the way the film was mixed and the level the director wanted it tobe played at. Just think if it was a full 70MM print, who’s going to turn that down. Management needs to take a stand and say that’s the way the director mixed and wants it presented. Just turndown the trailers.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on October 5, 2007 at 3:23 pm

Can somebody please point out tonight to the Ziegfeld staff that Blade Runner isn’t a musical (let’s forget for a second whatever they were thinking about that), but a MACHO SCIENCE FICTION FLICK and the audience wants it reasonably loud?

I’d like to know, because I’m not going to travel from Philly this weekend if low volume so people are walking out.

Or perhaps people attending disagree and are finding it loud enough?

Movieguy718
Movieguy718 on October 5, 2007 at 3:17 pm

4PM showing on Friday. Good sized audience… 300 or so. Treated to a blank screen for a minute or so as the digital projector fired up. The Ziegfeld’s digital picture is quite nice – clear and bright. Unfortunately, as is often the case here, it was NOT loud enough. The volume was clearly adjusted for the peak sound FX so as not to offend anybody’s ears.
This happened during their run of Hairspray as well. One of the very nice managers told me that they got so many complaints about Hairspray being too loud on opening day that they ran it between 5.0 and 5.5 for the duration of the run – which is the way I saw it there. Much of the dialog was unintelligible.
Today, rather than complain, I just requested a pass and left about 15 minutes into the movie when I realized that I did not want to see Blade Runner at a low volume. Ah well. So it goes.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on October 5, 2007 at 2:07 pm

Bill, Thanks! Love the text.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on October 5, 2007 at 1:59 pm

Ok, report on how the digital presentation looks on the huge Ziegfeld screen.

William
William on October 5, 2007 at 1:51 pm

Remember it’s a Digital Cinema Presentation. So no 35mm print.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on October 5, 2007 at 1:32 pm

Scan & link the ad?
More people will buy as a result of the ad. However, in my experience only nationally advertized classics tend draw huge sold out gatherings in movie theaters as large as the Ziegfeld.
Can somebody TONIGHT report on the print, including picture & sound (and that curtain used before movie), how many attend, and whether any long line? I’m considering this for perhaps tommorrow.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on October 5, 2007 at 1:32 pm

Scan & link the ad?
More people will buy as a result of the ad. However, in my experience only nationally advertized classics tend draw huge sold out gatherings in movie theaters as large as the Ziegfeld.
Can somebody TONIGHT report on the print, including picture & sound (and that curtain used before movie), how many attend, and whether any long line? I’m considering this for perhaps tommorrow.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on October 5, 2007 at 10:26 am

There’s a nice big ad for “Blade Runner” at the Ziegfeld in today’s New York Times, the first time I’ve seen an ad in there for any of the Classics showings. I hope that translates into lots of tickets sold tonight.

SwankyJohn
SwankyJohn on October 4, 2007 at 8:08 am

I’m taking 8 people to see BLADE RUNNER tomorrow evening. Any idea when one should arrive to insure a decent seat?

Also, if anyone’s interested, this weekend the Jersey Loew’s will be showing several films I’ve always wanted to see on the big screen with an audience. http://www.loewsjersey.org/ (Take the PATH to Journal Square – just across the street from the station)

Thanks,
SwankyJohn

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on October 4, 2007 at 4:25 am

Tickets are $11 for adults, $7.50 for seniors and children. “Blade Runner” shows are at 1 PM, 4 PM, 7 PM and 10 PM Friday thru Sunday, and 2 PM, 5:30 PM and 8:30 PM Monday thru Thursday.

JodarMovieFan
JodarMovieFan on October 3, 2007 at 4:50 pm

$2 off! Wow, that will help offset the cost of gas from DC :) Hey, every little bit helps. I’m looking forward to a screening Monday.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on October 3, 2007 at 3:40 pm

Cool! Thanks so much, Bill. Will admission be set at Ziegfeld standard $11 for adults?

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on October 3, 2007 at 7:22 am

Thanks to Clearview, $2.00 off all “Blade Runner” tickets with this coupon:

http://www.bladezone.com/ticket.jpg

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on October 3, 2007 at 4:27 am

You’re welcome, Roadshow. I hadn’t really decided to go to
“Blade Runner” but now, thanks to Mr. Endres' recommendation, I’ll definitely check it out.

exit
exit on October 2, 2007 at 7:39 pm

Thanks very much, BH, for posting the text of that article. Makes me miss the Ziegfeld even more, and increases the interest in interviewing Robert Endres for a feature on Showmanship.

celboy
celboy on October 2, 2007 at 10:25 am

Those hdcam settings refer to the downconverter board.So you’re projecting ntsc?
Where do you work?
I work @ a NY Post House in NYC so feel free to contact me off list to respond.

RobertEndres
RobertEndres on October 2, 2007 at 9:37 am

Our D-5 and HDCam tapes are standard HD with a 1:79 output some are letterboxed, some squeezed. It does vary. I have an HDCam deck that offers “Edge Crop”, “LetterBoxed” or “Squeeze” functions. The latter actually unsqueezes the output of a squeezed tape for 1.79 (or 1.85 with slight top and bottom cropping). We also use a 2K server for file based material which arrives on USB drives from Technicolor or on Dolby drives. I can take a 1.79 tape with a letterboxed 2.35/2.40 image and format it in our NEC IS8 projector to fit the panels widthwise which squeezes the image and fills more of the chip, then use the anamorphic lens to unsqueeze it. The projector chips are 2048 x 1089 native res.

Our NTSC DigiBeta tapes are upconverted to 1080 in the HDCAm deck. Other NTSC material is upconverted by a Folsom scaler. Oddly enough, a couple of years ago all the producers wanted 2K digital cinema projectors with anamorphic lenses installed in screening rooms, which makes running standard def NTSC material a lot more difficult. We’re still discovering the best way to do so, but digital cinema projectors really are designed for that, and I know of one post house here in N.Y. that doesn’t even want to touch 30 frame NTSC stuff in their screening room anymore. Fortunately, I’m surrounded by a knowledgable tech staff who know lots more about this than I do.(Sorry to use up the space with tech stuff — but celboy did ask.)

celboy
celboy on October 2, 2007 at 8:48 am

REndres: So that I correctly understand you—You’ve got films that are file based with stretched images and also HD transfers from D-5 HD decks. Or is the D5 got 2k data on it (via an add on data box by Panasonic).

RobertEndres
RobertEndres on October 2, 2007 at 6:53 am

Cellboy: You’ve got it — the files are squeezed to fit the chip, and then the anamorphic lens unsqueezes the image to 2.35/2.40. I think the squeeze is around 1.25, much less than the 2x squeeze used for anamorphic 35mm. The result, at least as far as I’m concerned, is the same as with 35mm. You’re gaining much more resolution. The height of both formats stays the same. It’s actually easier going between 1.85 and 2.40 here on the digital projector here. Most of the D-5 transfers I’ve been getting are actually 2.4 rather than 2.35, but I can just slide the anamorphnic into place and I’m set. (I do have to increase the light from about 19% to 38% to compensate for the light loss in the anamorphic, but that’s not a problem).

I don’t know how many digital projectors the Ziegfeld has had. They had a prototype Texas Instrument unit in for the premiere showings of the last “Star Wars”. They’ve had the NEC which they own in for a while. They may change with the requirements of the production company. Warners screened “Blade Runner” at the Rose Theatre in the Time-Warner Center for the NYFF over the weekend and used a Christie with an anamorphic lens. I talked to a tech who was there and said it was really impressive as the Rose has a very big screen. There was a studio post-production rep there as well, so hopefully the Ziegfeld’s presentation will match that one.

celboy
celboy on October 2, 2007 at 6:38 am

Also does anyone know how many digital projectors, the theater has had? I remember seeing a grey Barco once and I thought a Blue Christie but maybe that was a NEC.