Radio City Music Hall

1260 6th Avenue,
New York, NY 10020

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RobertEndres
RobertEndres on August 4, 2005 at 3:58 pm

Vito, I believe they took the pipe for the Golds/Silvers traveller out for our “Snow White” presentation since they needed to hang a tree leaf piece in that position. While I think of the traveller as being “the Golds” I think the control board has the switching marked as the “Silvers” so both colors must have been used at one time or other. The curtain was acoustically transparent, so for the roadshows we did with Entre'act music we didn’t bring the contour in because it acted as a high frequency filter as it came down. The traveller was motor operated from the same panel as the contour, and could travel at four speeds. I had seen “Dr. Zhivago” in 70mm at the Palace in Chicago, and was impressed that after the intermission music as the picture started (with the train carrying Zhivago going through a tunnel) a point of light appeared on the screen and got bigger as the train approached the mouth of the tunnel. The stagehand in Chicago opened the curtain just ahead of the growing spot of light up until the train exited the tunnel and you saw the curtain a moment or so before it cleared the screen. I mentioned that to our house people, and when we ran “Zhivago” the light board and stage manager and control board operator tried the various traveller speeds and timing until they were able to recreate the effect. I think they had some fun doing it, as it wasn’t just the usual open/close cycle the traveller was used for. By the way, there was also a light set in between the contour and the proscenium at the top of the arch which mirrored the footlights below. Apparently it didn’t work all that well since I never saw it used although it was there when I started at the Hall, and I saw it from the catwalk above the proscenium. It also was removed to make way to hang other pieces.

ryancm
ryancm on August 4, 2005 at 3:47 pm

Long live the curtain traveler…but like everything else in the industry, it to came to its demise. Sad. I remember a few theatres using the “waterfall” curtain, which was also nice. Also liked the appatures better then. Now it’s all projected on the same screen with the masking just going up and down rather than in and out to fit the format. I guess it must be due to the filming techiques. There was nothing more exciting sitting in a theatre seeing the cartoon or news etc. on a standard screen, the curtain closing..a small moment, then the masking, behind the curtain, would open and that terrific Fox logo appeared as the curtain opened revealing a nice wide CinemaScope (or whatever wide screen process was used) and the curtain would stop in time for the main title. Oh, yes, that was showmanship at its height.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on August 4, 2005 at 3:08 pm

But Vito you are speaking of a time when having a naked screen in front of you was as unseemly as having a completely naked individual on stage in front of you.
We have gone 180 degrees.
(yet ironically people in general are more physically prudish and uncomfortable with themselves than ever.)

Vito
Vito on August 4, 2005 at 2:45 pm

A post from REndres indicatd the removal or the traveler curtain a while back. I believe they needed the rig for scenery. They did not use it much, if at all, once the movies stopped. Rob, any comments?
The timing of the countour and travelor curtain was impecably timed to the last frame of the movie and last note of the end title score, which was blended perfectly to the start of the organist.
Ah, showmanship, an important aspect of the biz in my day, all but lost now.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on August 4, 2005 at 2:23 pm

BOB I hope you got to see Home From the Hill at the Music Hall. One of the films I most want to see. The Walter Reade was going to show it during a Minnelli festival(or was it Mitchum?) but then they canceled it. Maybe a good print no longer exists.

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on August 4, 2005 at 1:49 pm

Gustavelifting—

From the audience’s perspective, the traveler curtain was behind the contour curtain, and at the end of films was synchronized to close as the countour descended.

uncleal923
uncleal923 on August 4, 2005 at 1:22 pm

I don’t recall Radio City as ever having a draw curtain. Did they get rid of it?

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on August 4, 2005 at 12:28 pm

Here’s a Program from February 1960:

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Our hearts were broken when Kay Kendall died a few weeks before this film opened at RCMH. I shall never forget thinking, as the great contour curtain descended and the traveler curtain closed on the final frame, that we’d never see her again. Then we went to a bar, drank a lot of beer, and argued about whether a young senator from Massachusetts named “Jack” could ever be nominated for president, as so many pundits were predicting he might be. Shortly afterwards, that young senator tossed his diaper into the ring.

RobertR
RobertR on August 4, 2005 at 12:32 am

1964 Captain Newman MD with Gregory Peck and Captain Newman
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MarkA
MarkA on August 2, 2005 at 4:27 pm

Hey RichePipes,

Nice to see you here. Please read what I’ve written about Ray Bohr (all good, of course). Hope that you will be able to share more about the Music Hall with us.

Organ-ized

Vito
Vito on August 1, 2005 at 9:06 am

myrtleave, Check back to Feb 8, 2005. there is an informative thread regarding Kiss Me Kate in 3-D at the hall by REndres

spencerst
spencerst on August 1, 2005 at 2:17 am

i just saw a ad for KISS ME KATE
when it opened at raido city
it open in wide screen only
but when it open at the lows metroplitan
in brooklyn it was in 3 dimension and
wide screen

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on July 28, 2005 at 12:57 pm

You think the “Young Man With Humor” Gary Morton is the same guy who married Lucy after she broke up with Desi?

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on July 28, 2005 at 12:42 pm

What about the great casting of Capucine? One of the most beautiful women to grace the screen at the Music Hall.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on July 28, 2005 at 12:42 pm

What about the great casting of Capucine? One of the most beautiful women to grace the screen at the Music Hall.

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on July 28, 2005 at 12:30 pm

Variety is on line through LexisNexis only back to 1993. Various libraries have it on microfilm or in the original paper editions or in some combination of the two.

Here’s a Program from September, 1960:

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I truly don’t know why I went to see the movie, though the great casting of Genevieve Page, Patricia Morison, Martita Hunt, Lou Jacobi, and Marcel Dalio must have made it worthwhile. I remember joining my cynical college friends in heckling some of the grosser Hollywood lines about nineteenth-century high cultcha. Something tells me that one of us knew someone in the GW University chorus which performed in the stage show. Certainly the photo on the program’s cover could have been of any of us, except that we’d never give up our chinos or turtle necks to wear tuxes or gowns for any reason, not even to appear on RCMH’s great stage if we could.

ryancm
ryancm on July 27, 2005 at 3:21 pm

Wow. Robert R should had some great NY Times movie pages. I especially liked anything in the 40’s-50’s. My favorite era of motion pictures

Gerald A. DeLuca
Gerald A. DeLuca on July 27, 2005 at 1:45 pm

In addition to the bound volumes of Variety film reviews, the N.Y. Public Library for the Performing Arts at Lincoln Center should have Variety Magazine complete on microfilm. (Where I live, U.R.I. has it all on microfilm.)

42ndStreetMemories
42ndStreetMemories on July 27, 2005 at 1:31 pm

BoxOfficeBill & Co,

Regarding your earlier mention of a 1960s Variety. Are 1950s-1960s Variety’s available on-line or at any library system. j

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on July 27, 2005 at 12:40 pm

>> Shane has a big Latin American stage show(makes sense) and its kicked off with Gilbert and Sullivan?!!!

I guess all you can say is …That’s showbiz!

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on July 27, 2005 at 12:34 pm

Shane has a big Latin American stage show(makes sense) and its kicked off with Gilbert and Sullivan?!!!

RobertR
RobertR on July 27, 2005 at 12:11 pm

I never saw that ad for “North by Northwest” before, it was always the plane in the air running picture.

RobertR
RobertR on July 27, 2005 at 12:10 pm

Here is an advance ad for “Because Your Mine"
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Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on July 26, 2005 at 10:05 pm

Here are ads copied from microfilm in 1972, my first year of college. That explains the poor quality – microfilm readers have improved quite a lot since then – but I’m glad I still had them. The first is in two parts, from 1953:

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The next is from 1959:

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