Ralph Daniel…MSC77…polyparkie…The opening was on the date cited in the overview…with Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner? 2001 played a year and half later (for 12 weeks) followed by Zebra, Java and in 71, Norway…the last 4 “Cinerama” pictures ever.
bigjoe59…The rationale beyond the director observing audience reaction (which couldn’t really be done until it was actually in the theatre) was the evening showing(especially during the work week) pushing closer and closer to midnight and even beyond.
dallasmovietheaters,StanMalone,rivest266,Scott Neff,Coate…Has no one noticed that the grand opening ad shows 4 screens and 3 pictures with Benji showing 7 times, Jaws 6 but Wind and the Lion only 3 times and not before 705? That means a second screen is unaccounted for an additional 7 hours, at least on opening day.
NYer…Outstanding. Thank you. Do you know if the 4 closed at the same time or which one ran the longest? (I’m not asking you to do a search for me, only if you already know).
NYer…Thanks for the fast response. Are you certain the year is 57. I was not expecting that because it was the 44th week in release and had opened in not quite 50 cities, 9 of which were 35mm — all single city and theatre and strictly reserved seats.
NYer…You know of runs in 35mm during the Syosset engagement (which itself was during the last 12 weeks of the 103 week Rivoli run)? Would it be possible for you to post any of that information here? It would be greatly appreciated.
Al Alvarez…I acknowledge your earlier info, but bigjoe apparently wanted more than the month, which I had. With our info it’s now known here that the original length played for 8 weeks.
Howard…No I am not a projectionist, AR would be 2.2 and at 2.76 the image on a screen with a height of 30 feet would need to be 7.5 feet wider on each side.
Ryans was a very limited roadshow because most engagements were not using 70mm prints, a sign of the impending end of the real processes being replaced by blown up 35mm that in no way could compare to those images and actual 6 channels of sound.
bigjoe59…what programs do you have of the last roadshows (working backwards): Paris, Mancha, Winston, Nicholas, Fiddler, Norway, Tora. And non roadshown Valley and Ryans.
Fiddler played between DZ (not 70mm) and WSS. The others ran as you listed, but were also not in 70. Prior to Boys in 70 was 1st run Black Robe for 3 weeks.
Java only played one reserved seat engagement — in Hollywood. All others, including NY, played as many as 4 performances a day at reduced prices. This was both the first and last time this occurred, as there were no more pictures released in the process. And why wouldn’t they sell the program in any theatre to make money, since the first credit is “Cinerama Presents”. There were no “truth in souvenir program” laws that I know of.
Not on the Russian Adventure list is an engagement totally unique in that this never happened in any other city or theatre. The picture ran for 5 weeks. The theatre then closed for 46 days so that it could be upgraded from a temporary installation into permanent Super Cinerama (You all know the difference,don’t you). RA then resumed for an additional 17 days. Anyone know the city and theatre?
Ralph Daniel…MSC77…polyparkie…The opening was on the date cited in the overview…with Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner? 2001 played a year and half later (for 12 weeks) followed by Zebra, Java and in 71, Norway…the last 4 “Cinerama” pictures ever.
bigjoe59…If the main title sequence is missing the Cinerama credit (which I expect it is) the transfer was made from the 35 mm printdown.
bigjoe59…The rationale beyond the director observing audience reaction (which couldn’t really be done until it was actually in the theatre) was the evening showing(especially during the work week) pushing closer and closer to midnight and even beyond.
dallasmovietheaters,StanMalone,rivest266,Scott Neff,Coate…Has no one noticed that the grand opening ad shows 4 screens and 3 pictures with Benji showing 7 times, Jaws 6 but Wind and the Lion only 3 times and not before 705? That means a second screen is unaccounted for an additional 7 hours, at least on opening day.
bigjoe59 and vindanpar…They all had programs and Lawrence was cut by 20 mins after opening in 6 cities.
NYer…Again outstanding. Thank you.
NYer…Outstanding. Thank you. Do you know if the 4 closed at the same time or which one ran the longest? (I’m not asking you to do a search for me, only if you already know).
NYer…Do you have ads for the Syosset opening, the 4 theatre engagement and perhaps the Skouras ad showing the 70 and 35mm runs together?
NYer…Thanks for the fast response. Are you certain the year is 57. I was not expecting that because it was the 44th week in release and had opened in not quite 50 cities, 9 of which were 35mm — all single city and theatre and strictly reserved seats.
NYer…You know of runs in 35mm during the Syosset engagement (which itself was during the last 12 weeks of the 103 week Rivoli run)? Would it be possible for you to post any of that information here? It would be greatly appreciated.
No…it did start at that point, referenced by Cue magazine and newspaper ads.
Al Alvarez…I acknowledge your earlier info, but bigjoe apparently wanted more than the month, which I had. With our info it’s now known here that the original length played for 8 weeks.
bigjoe59…If you saw it Palm Sunday or before it was the uncut version.
bigjoe59…There were no programs sold in the US for Patton.
Howard…No I am not a projectionist, AR would be 2.2 and at 2.76 the image on a screen with a height of 30 feet would need to be 7.5 feet wider on each side.
Ryans was a very limited roadshow because most engagements were not using 70mm prints, a sign of the impending end of the real processes being replaced by blown up 35mm that in no way could compare to those images and actual 6 channels of sound.
Howard…Of those 6 films, only Fiddler and Ben-Hur were in 70mm, the latter using the 69 reissue that did not have the original extra wide image.
bigjoe59…what programs do you have of the last roadshows (working backwards): Paris, Mancha, Winston, Nicholas, Fiddler, Norway, Tora. And non roadshown Valley and Ryans.
Fiddler played between DZ (not 70mm) and WSS. The others ran as you listed, but were also not in 70. Prior to Boys in 70 was 1st run Black Robe for 3 weeks.
Coate…The year was 87. The transition began the week of September 14. The reopening was 10/23.
Coate…9/29/76.
So if you remember them you should be able to answer your own question. Maybe that friend you mentioned days ago can help or is he only tv curious.
The last exclusive run was “Nine” for one week.
Java only played one reserved seat engagement — in Hollywood. All others, including NY, played as many as 4 performances a day at reduced prices. This was both the first and last time this occurred, as there were no more pictures released in the process. And why wouldn’t they sell the program in any theatre to make money, since the first credit is “Cinerama Presents”. There were no “truth in souvenir program” laws that I know of.
Not on the Russian Adventure list is an engagement totally unique in that this never happened in any other city or theatre. The picture ran for 5 weeks. The theatre then closed for 46 days so that it could be upgraded from a temporary installation into permanent Super Cinerama (You all know the difference,don’t you). RA then resumed for an additional 17 days. Anyone know the city and theatre?