National Theatre

10925 Lindbrook Drive,
Los Angeles, CA 90024

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William
William on November 20, 2007 at 3:29 pm

shatter, it costs money to remove the signage. The studio would pay for the removal and replace it with the next booking on the marquee. The Embassy 2,3,4 in Times Square had “Enemy of the State” on it’s marquee till earlier this summer.

MRY886
MRY886 on November 20, 2007 at 3:04 pm

The Cultural Heritage Commission inspected the National last Thursday. Everything except the missing sound system appears to be intact. Ronald Simms, the owner-developer told me that he has no desire to reuse the building as “my tenants need parking”. It is also my understanding that he has turned down an offer to buy the building. The Cultural Heritage Commission will be voting on November 29th at 10:00 AM in room 1010 at the Los Angeles City Hall on whether or not to recommend that the building should be declared a monument. It is very important that those who love the National Theatre be there to support this nomination. We need to pack the room. If you cannot come, please send letters of support to:

City of Los Angeles
Office of Historic Resources
200 N. Spring Street, Room 620
Los Angeles, CA 90012

Attn: Ken Bernstein

It is an uphill battle, but we can win it if the Cultural Heritage Commission knows that there is a constituency to support the preservation of this one of a kind theater!

shatter
shatter on November 20, 2007 at 2:47 pm

You know, I drive by the National every day on my way to work and you’d never guess that it is closed since the huge “Feast of Love” billboard/poster is up on the marquee and I think the one-sheets are there as well. Why wouldn’t they take down the signage if it is closed?

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exit on November 10, 2007 at 7:27 pm

There was no screening at the National. There couldn’t be, because, as reported on Cinema Sightlines, all the sound equipment has been removed.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on November 6, 2007 at 8:35 pm

Hold your angst, we were jesting.

Damon Packard
Damon Packard on November 6, 2007 at 8:20 pm

if all the chairs are stripped then it’s begun, the national is gone baby gone.
It’s over.
we….have failed (head dipped to floor)

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on November 6, 2007 at 8:15 pm

Well, if Roadshow reports that all the chairs are gone, then I guess so!

William
William on November 6, 2007 at 8:08 pm

Howard maybe it’s Standing Room Only. :)

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on November 6, 2007 at 7:56 pm

Thanks for the clarification, but since there’s a private screening, it doesn’t sound likely that the interior is being stripped away (yet).

mistertopps
mistertopps on November 6, 2007 at 7:49 pm

oh— I didn’t go upstairs, so I can only speak of the downstairs lobby.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on November 6, 2007 at 7:39 pm

“The interior hasn’t been touched….”

Roadshow, on November 1, you wrote here
http://cinematreasures.org/news/17463_0_1_20_C/
“The demolition may be temporarily halted, but the owners have already begun to strip away the interior of the theatre."
Why did you make that assertion?

mistertopps
mistertopps on November 6, 2007 at 7:30 pm

I walked by the theatre today. There was a brand new standee for “the perfect holiday” outside the open doors, next to a sign directing people to a private screening. The interior hasn’t been touched… yet, at least.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on November 1, 2007 at 11:32 pm

Well, then, you will appreciate that on October 6, 1983, the World Premiere in 70mm of “Never Say Never Again” took place at the National.

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exit on November 1, 2007 at 10:45 pm

I don’t recall recall the so-called insider stating flat out that the National was definitely going to be demolished. I recall him making many snide remarks of his own, repeatedly calling attention to himself with claims about knowing things we didn’t, but he wasn’t saying anything constructive, only shooting down everything else. His condescending tone didn’t lend him much credibility. And if he knew it all why didn’t he say anything about the closing on October 7? Some people may have dropped everything and run over there for one last movie.

I don’t claim to have all the answers, but at least I have made a constructive effort in contacting three major draftouse/grill theatre chains, and several industry and media news outlets to call attention to the National.

Let me repeat, one more time: Regardless of the outcome, I’d rather be able to say I tried something rather than just sit around and talk about how impossible and hopeless it all is.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on November 1, 2007 at 10:02 pm

There’s no mystery there, Roadshow, click on my name. I am a member of the Los Angeles Conservancy as well as the Theatre Historical Society of America, and a frequent contributor to these pages. I’ve been to almost every historic theater in Los Angeles.

Some of you actually did made snide comments at the insider who said months ago that the theater was going to be demolished. Then, some of you focussed on what classic films could be shown at midnight to the oh so few people who attended. The handwriting was on the wall months ago…but…

Doesn’t actually matter- the National wasn’t going to continue for movies. That’s not what I wish- Mark is right, it is a prefectly designed auditorium.

We all want historic theaters to survive. I agree that the National is worthwhile to consider for historic designation. If it got it though, expecting movies to resume is truly a longshot. Look at the Villa in Salt Lake City, selling rugs.
Of course, if you have a meal & drink movie exhibitor willing to make a serious bid to buy or lease, that would be interesting.

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exit on November 1, 2007 at 9:51 pm

Howard, I’m curious, where do you live? Not all of us believed the National was saved when it was reopened. It’s been written here and elsewhere some time ago that there was a great suspicion, and I believe it was said that a 26 year old manager was a good indication that the theatre’s days were numbered. I don’t think many of us actually believed it was actually saved.

No one has said the National was being gutted. Yet. Things are being removed. It is very common for a developer to try to deface or destroy a property so there is nothing left to protect. Case in point: Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha.

Declaring the National hopeless is not a constructive statement. Today four people decided it had enough merit to consider. A chance is a chance. Let’s proceed calmly and deal with the matter at hand.

markinthedark
markinthedark on November 1, 2007 at 9:11 pm

To me the interior of the National is the point. It represents (in my mind) perfect auditorium design. (Even if it has funky drapes and uncomfortable old seats).

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on November 1, 2007 at 9:03 pm

Nothing has changed in the last few years!
Regardless of what you may have heard from whoever, once designated, buildings stay protected.

Also, when a major chain departs operating a moviehouse & an indie takes over, and has a manager barely out of school, and arthouse films that can’t fill 10% of the house start to appear….and people who know make it clear that the theater is going to be demolished….why sit around believing the theater has been saved?

Well, now the wool is pulled from eyes, and the interior is being gutted? Is that correct?

Even if the exterior of the National got designated, the interior would be a retail store or restaurant or something. Does that please people?

Here’s what is realistic:
Save the South Pasadena Rialto for entertainment.
Save the exterior (and maybe cinema use) of the NuWilshire.
Save the Village & Bruin, for which you have 3 or fewer years to do.
the National for films is done.

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exit on November 1, 2007 at 8:45 pm

Howard, I am not interested in debating that with you. All I know is what I was told years ago by someone directly involved in the Dome issue. Maybe things have changed in the past few years. Right now I’m more interested in seeing what we can do to assist Charlie’s efforts, because he clearly knows what he’s doing.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on November 1, 2007 at 6:37 pm

Roadshow, let me repeat, one more time: landmark protection in LA is permanent, NOT only for one year.

The Carthay Circle, if demolished around 1970, might have been a bit early for any city to designate as historic a movie palace. Few American movie palaces were “saved” and reused for other uses before then. No LA movie palace (including the RKO Hillstreet and Metropolitan/Paramount downtown) seems missed as much as the Carthay Circle.

MRY886
MRY886 on November 1, 2007 at 5:46 pm

The Los Angeles Cultural Heritage Commission voted 4-0 to take the National Theatre under consideration as a Historic Cultural Monument for the City of Los Angeles. This first step puts a stay on any demolition plans while the application is reviewed, the site inspected by the Commission and final determination is made.

If the Cultural Heritage Commission votes to declare the National Theatre, the recommendation is forwarded to the City Council for a final vote. The building is located in the 5th council district. That is the district of Councilman Jack Weiss. Mr Weiss has not traditionally been supportive of historic preservation and this
nomination faces major challenges. I would implore anyone who has Jack Weiss' ear and wants to save this theater to work with us.

The ideal will be if a buyer with vision comes forward with a serious offer to take this wonderful venue over and make it work the way it truly can.

I will be posting support letters that have come in for the National over the next few days.

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exit on November 1, 2007 at 5:46 pm

When the Dome was in danger, I was told by the man who won a fight to save it, that landmark protection in LA would last only a year.

I suppose the theatres torn down many years ago, like the Carthay Circle perhaps, of architecture that was no older then than the National’s is now, weren’t considered old or “historic” enough, either.

People don’t learn.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on November 1, 2007 at 5:09 pm

Having spoken with the LA Conservancy and the National Trust for Historic Preservation, I must disagree with the Oct 29 statement by Roadshow that there’s no longterm legal protection of buildings designated historic in Los Angeles. In some other states, cities don’t have such protection, but they do in Los Angeles. That doesn’t mean that any legal system is perfect. It does mean that in general, buildings designated historic stay.

That said, the National hasn’t been designated as historic, so doesn’t have any protection.

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exit on October 30, 2007 at 2:51 pm

News From Cinema Sightlines:  
www.cinemasightlines.com

CULTURAL HERITAGE HEARING ON THE NATIONAL THEATRE IN WESTWOOD.

The National Theatre in Westwood is one of the 3 last big-screen, large capacity individual movie theatres still standing in greater Los Angeles. This theatre is a rare example of late 60s-early 70s modern architecture, with some historical significance regarding the motion picture events that have taken place there. Known for superior picture and sound presentation, The National Theatre has been a favorite movie showplace in Los Angeles for over 37 years.

The property owner, Simms Development corp, has definite plans to demolish this irreplaceable theatre, to build condominiums and probably some commercial space.

A group called Friends of the National Theatre is applying to the LA Cultural Heritage Commission to grant the building Historical-Cultural Monument status, which could delay demolition while the case is fully reviewed.

The National application is the final item on the agenda of a meeting scheduled for Thursday, November 1 at 10am in Room 101 of City Hall.

If there is any hope of saving the theatre, this is the opportunity for Friends of the National Theatre, and anyone wishing to speak up with reasons not to destroy it, to come forward.

What: Cultural Heritage Commission Hearing on the National Theatre

When: Thursday, Nov 1 at 10:00AM

Where: LA City Hall – 200 North Spring Street – Room 1010 – Los Angeles, CA 90012

We suggest you make the Cultural Heritage Commissioners aware of your support for the National Theatre, and help them recognize its historical & cultural significance by faxing polite letters to:

Mary Klaus-Martin – President

Richard Barron

Alma Carlisle

Glen C. Dake, ASLA

Miriam “Mia” Guttfreund Lehrer, ASLA

Cultural Heritage Commission
Fax (213) 978-0017

View link
http://cityplanning.lacity.org

Just asking to keep the theatre standing isn’t as persuasive without some practical ideas for how the theatre could be made into a profitable venture.  We are working on a proposal suggesting that the National could be commercially viable if adapted into the popular Movie Tavern/Studio Movie Grill/Alamo Drafthouse concept, which has yet to be done in this area and seems particularly suitable for an upscale college community like Westwood. 

Keeping the first-rate bigscreen picture & sound presentation, while adapting part of the audience area to accommodate several levels of food service, could broaden the theatre’s appeal by offering something for everyone in a way that is not available elsewhere. 

Anyone with other ideas is encouraged to write them up and have them ready for the hearing.  Please take this opportunity to speak up now, rather than regretting later on that the theatre was lost due to lack of support.   TAKE ACTION NOW!

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exit on October 30, 2007 at 1:40 am

Jason, two voices are better than one,so please feel free to join me in alerting all of the drafthouse/tavern/etc. operations of the National’s potential. I would hope just the mention that one of these businesses might be interested in the National could be reason enough to delay demolition while exploring the possibility. And since this is a very long message string, please re-post the link to your article and also fax it to the Cultural Heritage commissioners at (213) 978-0017.