I went to see the first of the Christopher Reeve ‘Superman’ films at the Warner, and was very disappointed with the picture and sound quality by comparison with the Dominion Tottenham Court Road and the Odeon Marble Arch.
There are, surely, two issues here which ‘begger’ belief, especially as we’re supposedly a world-leading power. First of all that we have laws in place in this country which enable its usage as a cinema to be blocked by the operators of a multiplex 8 MILES away, and secondly that the council of a town with INTERNATIONAL significance can allow ANY building to get into this state. In Richmond, Surrey, Odeon themselves re-opened a derelict cinema just around the corner from their main screens, with great success.
I attended a summer show at the ABC on one occasion, featuring Bruce Forsyth and Millicent Martin. My opinion of both of them increased dramatically as a result.
I visited this cinema on business in 1976, when it was still a single screen. The thing I remember most was the massive projection suite, which extended cross the entire back wall of the theatre. There was also a toilet in one corner, if I remember correctly.
Looking at the first of the pictures posted on Oct 3, I thought I remembered going to a small cinema located above the bingo hall in THIS building, rather than the one next door. I’m sure it was accessed via one of the blue doors to the lower left front of the facade. Does anybody ELSE remember this, or have I had a COMPLETE brainstorm for the last 20 years or so?
The Embassy closed for a few days in the mid 1970’s to enable ‘Sensurround Sound’ to be installed. It re-opened with ‘Earthquake’, which I was lucky enough to see on opening day. This also represented an early instance of ‘separate performances’ in an out-of-town venue. Following all the hype, I well remember queueing outside, as well as feeling the rumble through all the closed doors, with a certain amount of trepidation. Don’t forget that, at this time, sound quality often wasn’t great, and the employment of subwoofers in local cinemas was unheard of.
The extreme LF content of the soundtrack was certainly impressive as a part of THIS movie’s experience, as it was for ‘Battle of Midway’ – for obvious reasons. ‘Rollercoaster’ also employed a sensurround track, but this wasn’t so effective. Also, by the time that movie was released, ‘Star Wars’ and ‘Close Encounters’ were on the scene, and audio quality in local screens was improving rapidly.
Whilst trawling through the ealing council website on another matter, I found the following link which refers to the planning consent for the new 16 screen cinema. Most interestingly, it shows exactly how big the new development is going to be.
It would be interesting to know what the building looked like INSIDE during the final years, considering what it looked like OUTSIDE. It’s amazing to think that a building in that state could still be open.
Saw ‘G-Force 3D’ in screen 8 this week – stunning! Picture quality was fantastic, and sound was the best I’ve heard in this multiplex. It was certainly a wonderful advert for digital projection.
Looking at the two pictures re-posted on Jan 5th, it’s not obvious from the front that the auditorium was actually quite a distance from the road/entrance, and was reached via a lengthy corridor. This entered the cinema at the base of the raked seats.
When I worked there for a short while, as a projection assistant, I seem to remember being told the throw was around 100 feet. The screen was quite narrow, and was not widened when ‘scope came along – presumably to be able to leave the two marble pillars that flanked it intact. This meant that, rather than the VERTICAL masking moving in and out to change to 'scope, the HORIZONTAL masking moved up and down instead. Another bi-product of this, was that a longer focal length standard lens was required when the anamorph was swung in front than was used for 'flat’ ratio films. The ads and trailers were always ‘flat’, so were assembled on a reel by themselves. As soon as the ‘scope feature started, the lenses and gates would be swapped over, ready for the first changeover. During the last reel, the lenses and gate had to be swapped again, ready for the next – continuous in those days – showing. The carbon rods also had to be checked, and changed every couple of reels per projector, so MAJOR problems ensued if the first or last reel of the feature was a bit short. For obvious reasons, focus could be a bit 'iffy’ at the first changeover after the lenses had been changed, but a bit of judicious marking of the lens mount, and a lot of practise, kept this to a minimum.
Somebody has commented on Flickr – ref the above link – that they saw ‘Star Wars’ in this cinema, which surely wasn’t released until 1977, or even 1978 by the time it got out of London/Birmingham/Manchester?
It was the best quality periscope projection I’ve ever seen, as it happens, but the nature of the conversion enabled everything to be pretty ‘square-on’, so the geometry was correct right from the start. Also, unlike a lot of periscope projected screens, the distance between the two mirrors was not great, since ABC1 was the former circle, rather than the former stalls. As an aside, Studios 1 & 2 in Guildford – now demolished – used the original projection area, and both had periscopes, even though you could see screen 2 from the box. The bottom mirror of Studio 1’s periscope was immense, with the resultant loss of quality.
At one time, the shopping arcade was also known as ‘Oxford Walk’.
I went to see the first of the Christopher Reeve ‘Superman’ films at the Warner, and was very disappointed with the picture and sound quality by comparison with the Dominion Tottenham Court Road and the Odeon Marble Arch.
The next building to the right was actually part of Hanwell tram/bus garage, so the car showroom is probably the most likely candidate!
If this is where I THINK it is, it was actually in Cherington Road, NOT the Broadway.
I believe the place was finally closed following complaints about noise pollution, which might well have some bearing on possible future uses.
http://www.cinephoto.co.uk/
Follow this link for some behind the scenes views of the Odeon Richmond
There are, surely, two issues here which ‘begger’ belief, especially as we’re supposedly a world-leading power. First of all that we have laws in place in this country which enable its usage as a cinema to be blocked by the operators of a multiplex 8 MILES away, and secondly that the council of a town with INTERNATIONAL significance can allow ANY building to get into this state. In Richmond, Surrey, Odeon themselves re-opened a derelict cinema just around the corner from their main screens, with great success.
Thanks very much. When you went up the stairs to the classic, you had no idea it was actually in the building next door – fiendishly clever…..
I attended a summer show at the ABC on one occasion, featuring Bruce Forsyth and Millicent Martin. My opinion of both of them increased dramatically as a result.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLsqhNnMMO4
Take a look at this, to see the technology in place during 2000. A film by Fred J.Fullerton, which will be of interest to ‘techies’ everywhere.
I visited this cinema on business in 1976, when it was still a single screen. The thing I remember most was the massive projection suite, which extended cross the entire back wall of the theatre. There was also a toilet in one corner, if I remember correctly.
Looking at the first of the pictures posted on Oct 3, I thought I remembered going to a small cinema located above the bingo hall in THIS building, rather than the one next door. I’m sure it was accessed via one of the blue doors to the lower left front of the facade. Does anybody ELSE remember this, or have I had a COMPLETE brainstorm for the last 20 years or so?
The Embassy closed for a few days in the mid 1970’s to enable ‘Sensurround Sound’ to be installed. It re-opened with ‘Earthquake’, which I was lucky enough to see on opening day. This also represented an early instance of ‘separate performances’ in an out-of-town venue. Following all the hype, I well remember queueing outside, as well as feeling the rumble through all the closed doors, with a certain amount of trepidation. Don’t forget that, at this time, sound quality often wasn’t great, and the employment of subwoofers in local cinemas was unheard of.
The extreme LF content of the soundtrack was certainly impressive as a part of THIS movie’s experience, as it was for ‘Battle of Midway’ – for obvious reasons. ‘Rollercoaster’ also employed a sensurround track, but this wasn’t so effective. Also, by the time that movie was released, ‘Star Wars’ and ‘Close Encounters’ were on the scene, and audio quality in local screens was improving rapidly.
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If the previous link doesn’t work, follow this one and enter ‘cinema uxbridge road’ into the search area at the top of the page
Whilst trawling through the ealing council website on another matter, I found the following link which refers to the planning consent for the new 16 screen cinema. Most interestingly, it shows exactly how big the new development is going to be.
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It would be interesting to know what the building looked like INSIDE during the final years, considering what it looked like OUTSIDE. It’s amazing to think that a building in that state could still be open.
Saw ‘G-Force 3D’ in screen 8 this week – stunning! Picture quality was fantastic, and sound was the best I’ve heard in this multiplex. It was certainly a wonderful advert for digital projection.
Looking at the two pictures re-posted on Jan 5th, it’s not obvious from the front that the auditorium was actually quite a distance from the road/entrance, and was reached via a lengthy corridor. This entered the cinema at the base of the raked seats.
When I worked there for a short while, as a projection assistant, I seem to remember being told the throw was around 100 feet. The screen was quite narrow, and was not widened when ‘scope came along – presumably to be able to leave the two marble pillars that flanked it intact. This meant that, rather than the VERTICAL masking moving in and out to change to 'scope, the HORIZONTAL masking moved up and down instead. Another bi-product of this, was that a longer focal length standard lens was required when the anamorph was swung in front than was used for 'flat’ ratio films. The ads and trailers were always ‘flat’, so were assembled on a reel by themselves. As soon as the ‘scope feature started, the lenses and gates would be swapped over, ready for the first changeover. During the last reel, the lenses and gate had to be swapped again, ready for the next – continuous in those days – showing. The carbon rods also had to be checked, and changed every couple of reels per projector, so MAJOR problems ensued if the first or last reel of the feature was a bit short. For obvious reasons, focus could be a bit 'iffy’ at the first changeover after the lenses had been changed, but a bit of judicious marking of the lens mount, and a lot of practise, kept this to a minimum.
This strikes me as to what cinema should be all about.
Somebody has commented on Flickr – ref the above link – that they saw ‘Star Wars’ in this cinema, which surely wasn’t released until 1977, or even 1978 by the time it got out of London/Birmingham/Manchester?
These ‘swallow-ups’ by department stores/council offices etc aren’t a new thing then?
And here’s a version of it you might be able to see without a magnifying glass!
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Here is a 1990’s view of the foyer
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It was the best quality periscope projection I’ve ever seen, as it happens, but the nature of the conversion enabled everything to be pretty ‘square-on’, so the geometry was correct right from the start. Also, unlike a lot of periscope projected screens, the distance between the two mirrors was not great, since ABC1 was the former circle, rather than the former stalls. As an aside, Studios 1 & 2 in Guildford – now demolished – used the original projection area, and both had periscopes, even though you could see screen 2 from the box. The bottom mirror of Studio 1’s periscope was immense, with the resultant loss of quality.
Looking at the photo, the place doesn’t look big enough to have housed a 45' deep stage and 600 seats.