Cinerama Hollywood

6360 Sunset Boulevard,
Los Angeles, CA 90028

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haineshisway
haineshisway on May 21, 2008 at 8:10 pm

If 35mm scope was blown up to 70mm, yes, as far as I know there would be some cropping involved.

CSWalczak
CSWalczak on May 21, 2008 at 8:08 pm

You can find an excellent summary and comparison of the various aspect ratios using both 35mm anamorphic and 70mm processes at this page of the Widescreen Museum website:

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Damon Packard
Damon Packard on May 21, 2008 at 8:06 pm

yea i was there for that Khartoom screening. But let’s take the two common ratio’s for most hollywood studio films, 1:85 and 2:35, is there a difference in ratio presentation whether it’s shown in 35 or 70? Most films are shot in 35, so most were blow-ups, so i would guess not. I mean for example the big difference between seeing Raiders or Temple of Doom in 70 was a brighter, sharper, more stable image and of course the sound, right?

haineshisway
haineshisway on May 21, 2008 at 7:39 pm

Of course there are different ratios for different types of 70mm. The most common is 2:20 – there have been a handful of 1:85 ratio films in 70mm, and then, of course, there’s Ultra Panavision 70, whose negative ratio is 2:76 (I just saw Khartoum at the Egyptian and they did their best to preserve the 2:76 ratio, but their screen is just too small to have that work).

Damon Packard
Damon Packard on May 21, 2008 at 7:31 pm

I agree with that, these big screens were meant for 70..no doubt about it! Though someone correct me if i’m wrong, is there any difference in the actual ratio of the presentation, whether it be 1:85, 2:35 or 2:40 whether it’s in 35 or 70? Cause i don’t think there is, 70 mainly gives you a higher resolution, sharper, brighter image, and of course mag sound in the old days. Though i’m not sure about this, especially for some of the old fashioned mega-wide scopes ala Vistavision, Ultra or Super Panavision 65mm, Todd AO, etc someone with better knowledge fill me in

haineshisway
haineshisway on May 21, 2008 at 7:16 pm

In my opinion, there is no point in showing a 35mm scope print on a screen designed for huge 70mm presentation. It’s what’s wrong with every movie theater today – there is almost no difference in screen sizes. The height of 1:85 is not the height of 2:35, so just opening the masking doesn’t quite do it. There is no showmanship anymore. I’ll take curtains, the DGA, the Chinese, the El Capitan, any of those places where they have some idea of what the moviegoing experience should be like. The one thing it should NOT be like is sitting in your living room watching your big screen TV.

DonSolosan
DonSolosan on May 21, 2008 at 6:29 pm

I think only the front rows get the advantage of the curved screen, as the image fills more of their field of vision. As you move farther back, the effect is lost. The last feature I saw at the Dome was Iron Man, and the image was neither dark nor soft. I noticed that the AMPAS logo on the trailers was warped, but I didn’t notice any distortion during the feature. I was sitting in about the middle of the house.

Damon Packard
Damon Packard on May 21, 2008 at 3:39 pm

i’ve been reading some of the above posts about design flaws of the dome, the warped screen distorting the image, i guess it’s always been that way though i don’t recall it being a huge problem or distraction, I probably haven’t seen anough scope films there to pay enough attention. Though i do vagely recall someone commenting on how warped the german plane in Raiders of the Lost Ark was when it played there in ‘81. (whats the advantage of a curved screen anyway?) And then there is the dark and soft image issue on the screen, yea I seem to recall this was a problem in recent years, have they fixed or improved that? Haven’t seen anything there in quite some time. I thought the arclight was all about bringing picture brightness up to the highest standards, but it sounds like the main dome has posed a problem with this, mostly because of bad corporate (save money) decisions. This is really unfortunate, and all too typical

DonSolosan
DonSolosan on May 19, 2008 at 6:29 pm

Moviefone also has the Dome feature indicated.

markinthedark
markinthedark on May 19, 2008 at 5:53 pm

The Arclight tells you which film is playing in the Dome in their LA Times ad and on their website (Dome showtimes are in bold).

Damon Packard
Damon Packard on May 19, 2008 at 9:18 am

ahh, the guy who’d rather see digital presentation than 35mm? Well, hey as a film purist i’m with you there, I endlessly complain about the loss of 70mm, audiences these days don’t realize just how much better 70 was but the cost differences just couldn’t justify “progress” in the name of technology and mindless automation. Don’t worry, we’re still a few years away from seeing everything as a pixilated i-pod flash clip but it ain’t that far off. It’s all over anyway, so i pretty much stopped caring accepting the end of the world, the days when films were actually good and genuine cinemas & movie palaces existed, when films were an event, when things had more character, and the experience was gratifying, meaningful, before over-inflated ticket prices & parking enforcement drones, before everything became a target audience market niche, a comic book/videogame, when there was real life and possibilities, when everyone didn’t have that glazed empty dead look in their eyes, and, oh well you get the idea, those days are gone.

haineshisway
haineshisway on May 19, 2008 at 8:54 am

I have no anger. My comment was directed at a post I don’t consider trivial at all – some guy saying something that I consider completely ignorant and typical of what goes on in the world today.

I have no love for much of anything the Arclight does these days.

Damon Packard
Damon Packard on May 19, 2008 at 8:51 am

Instead of directing your anger at some trivial post, you should direct it at the fact that the Arclight doesn’t advertise what’s specifically playing in the Dome ! That would make much more sense, oh and at that silly assigned seating business!

haineshisway
haineshisway on May 19, 2008 at 8:47 am

Wasn’t talking about sound, and wasn’t referring to your post, obviously. A simple scroll upwards to kram sacul’s post will show you what I WAS referring to. Why you would think I was referring to your post when you hadn’t said the line I quoted is anyone’s guess. :)

Damon Packard
Damon Packard on May 19, 2008 at 8:38 am

who said that? it wasn’t me, what post are you referring to?
Btw, just about all the screens have excellent sound and good picture, and as a sound designer/mixer i can tell you the best equipped screens at this theatre have the best sound i’ve heard anywhere, at least since the old days at the Plitt in Century City with their Klipsch speaker system

haineshisway
haineshisway on May 19, 2008 at 8:29 am

I just don’t know what to do with a comment like “I dreaded seeing it on film.” It just makes me want to vomit on the ground, and perhaps the poster who said it will some day realize how inane that statement is.

Damon Packard
Damon Packard on May 19, 2008 at 8:25 am

One question I’d really like to know is…why doesn’t the Arclight advertise what’s playing specifically in the dome opposed to bunching all the show-times together? Now, as far as multiplexes go I like the arclight, and I can live with the fact the the old beloved cineramadome (with it’s more attractive marquee and sign display in the old days when the entrance was in the front, like the Chinese,..which naturally made more sense) became the pricey Arclight, that’s life. But the two things that really bother me are; the assigned seating, which just doesn’t work far as i’m concerned, they should have eliminated that long ago, and bunching the showtimes together with no idea what’s playing in what theater.

DonSolosan
DonSolosan on May 18, 2008 at 5:07 am

Lakeman, there is no entry for the OS Cinerama in Osaka. Maybe you could make one?

lakeman
lakeman on May 18, 2008 at 2:15 am

Currently, I am visiting LA after 7 years of absence. (I am from Japan, and I used to live here for 11 years.) I just saw ‘Iron Man" at the Dome, and I am very happy to know that the the theater is back with much better pic & sound quality. (When I left L.A., the Dome was still in renovation.) I live in a city called Osaka in Japan, and we used have a Cinerama theater called OS Cinerama. It was actually a sister theater to Cinerama Dome, and the interior was exactly same. Everytime I visit the Dome, it reminds me of the days I enjoyed many of 70mm films at OS Cinerama. I am really glad that Cinerama Dome still exists and gives us the most ideal presentation of the movies. By the way, I have tried to get a ticket for the very first show of Indy 4 online, however the the particular show had been sold-out instantly. But when I bitched about it to a box office lady in person yesterday, she said there are still some tickets left. Then she helped me to get a great seat for the very first midnight show of Indy 4. Thanks to the friendly lady at the box office! On the other hand, I was not happy at all that the gift shop doesn’t carry any Cinerama-related souvenirs any more. There used to be key-chains, photo-frames, baseball caps, stickers, and all. I really wish that they will start selling those again. I would like to take something from the Dome home.

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on May 14, 2008 at 4:38 am

You must have caught them on a bad night, Mark. I’ve seen plenty of stuff in the regular Arclight theatres and the bass was excellent – most notablym the score in “There Will Be Blood” was PUMPIN in there!

RogerA
RogerA on May 13, 2008 at 6:14 pm

Re-premiere of It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World at the Cinerama Dome twenty years ago. Lots of familiar faces.

Part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FSY47UEvOuc

Part 2
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Part 3
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KramSacul
KramSacul on May 12, 2008 at 3:09 am

Went to a showing of Iron Man in theater 10. Was dreading seeing it on film but it ended up being digital. Bravo for getting that sorted out. The bad part is that the picture quality throughout was unnaturally soft, like the image was purposely unfocused. I hope it’s not stuck like that. I rather see a sharp detailed picture with occasional jaggies than a mushy image.

Besides the Dome none of the Arclight theaters have decent bass do they? Sounded pretty weak.

Steve2
Steve2 on May 7, 2008 at 10:44 am

I absolutely loved the 70MM curved screen format of the 1960’s. You people in L.A. are sooooooo lucky. I’m jealous!!

Ross Melnick
Ross Melnick on May 5, 2008 at 4:17 pm

Yikes — this is the first I’m hearing about it. We’ll look into it. Thanks for letting me know.