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Joe Vogel commented about Bill Robinson Theatre on Jul 10, 2007 at 4:17 am

Lost Memory: The pueblo style theatre in San Jacinto was called the Soboba. It opened on September 9, 1927 and closed in 1951. The building was destroyed by fire in December of 1968. Here’s another photo, dated 1936, before the movie-style marquee was added.

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Joe Vogel commented about Azteca Theatre on Jul 8, 2007 at 10:44 pm

In Southwest Builder & Contractor, issue of 1 August, 1941, there is an announcement that Clifford Balch has made plans for a theatre on Maclay Avenue for Maude L. and John T. Rennie.

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Joe Vogel commented about Strand Theatre on Jul 8, 2007 at 6:22 am

The L.A. library’s California Index has a card referencing a Times article from 10/25/1925 with the headline “Theatres purchased at big sum”. The thing I found most interesting, though, is that the card names the theatre as the “Mark Strand”, which was the name of an east coast chain run by the brothers Mitchell and Moe Mark. See the comment by Barry Goodkin on this Cinema Treasures page. I wonder if the Mark Brothers did own this theatre or if there was just some sort of mistake by the person who typed up the library card? Index cards making references to the theatre at later dates just call it the Strand or (beginning in 1936) the Fox Strand.

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Joe Vogel commented about Garrick Theatre on Jul 6, 2007 at 7:37 am

Call letters of broadcasting stations in the east routinely begin with a “W”, but the BKB stood for Balaban & Katz Broadcasting.

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Joe Vogel commented about Arcade Theatre on Jul 6, 2007 at 12:06 am

The principals of the firm of Morgan, Walls, & Morgan were Octavius Morgan (1850-1922), his son Octavius Morgan Jr. (1886-1951) and John A. Walls (1858-1922). Octavius Morgan Sr. was the firm’s lead architect and one of the most prolific architects of his era in Los Angeles. Prior to 1910, when Octavius Jr. was made a partner, the firm had been called Morgan & Walls. Both the elder Morgan and John Walls had earlier been in partnership with the aging Ezra F. Kysor, architect of the Pico House and of St. Vibiana’s Cathedral, so the company had fairly deep roots in Los Angeles.

As far as I know, Julia Morgan was not related to Octavius Morgan, personally or professionally. Her office was in San Francisco, and the Hearst’s Examiner Building was her first commission in the southern part of the state, as well as her first project for Hearst. On that project she was associated with the Los Angeles firm of Haenke & Dodd. Her office had sole responsibility for designing Hearst’s castle at San Simeon, which project continued from the 1920s through the 1930s.

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Joe Vogel commented about Garnett Theatre on Jul 3, 2007 at 3:57 am

LM: The Silent Era source is mistaken. They have conflated the actual Tally’s New Broadway (this theatre, later called the Garnett) at 554 S. Broadway with Tally’s Broadway Theatre at 833 S. Broadway. That was the one demolished in 1929 to make way for the expansion of the May Company southward from its original 8th and Broadway building.

The Garnett has also been demolished, of course, but I’m not sure in what year. It was replaced by the Silverwood’s store, which was there by 1913 (at least if the L.A. Library is right about the date of this photo from their collection.) I believe ScottS is probably correct about the 1893 construction date of the Elden Hotel. The building complex along Mercantile Place which adjoined the hotel property on the north (and was eventually replaced by the Arcade Building) dated from about that same time.

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Joe Vogel commented about Clune's Theatre on Jul 3, 2007 at 12:27 am

The Clune’s Theatre at 5th and Main shows up in the California Index at the L.A. Library website, too. It’s a card referencing a Times ad of May 15, 1909, announcing the opening of the theatre that day.

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Joe Vogel commented about Town Theatre on Jul 3, 2007 at 12:11 am

The Band Box is listed here as Shamrock Theatre.

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Joe Vogel commented about Gaiety Theatre on Jul 1, 2007 at 7:35 am

The construction date of this theatre must be 1904-1905, then. Here is a photo dated 1904 (this date being the earliest possible, as confirmed by the tall, white building at center, which is the Braley Block on the SE corner of 4th and Spring, completed that year) which shows a house (the one topped by a round turret) occupying the site of this theatre.

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Joe Vogel commented about Alto Theatre on Jun 30, 2007 at 12:23 am

An aerial view of this theatre from Terraserver shows a building about 120' deep with frontage of about 180' on Western Avenue. Except for the entrance foyer, the frontage looks as though it was occupied by retail shops to a depth of about 50'. The theatre auditorium looks to have been about 70' wide, and was probably about 120'-130' from screen to back wall. I’d have guessed at over 1000 seats for a place that size.

The style looks art moderne, and the building details suggest an early post-WWII construction date rather than a remodeling of something older. My grandparents lived a little more than a dozen blocks from this theatre in the 1950s, but unfortunately when we went to visit them we almost never drove down Western Avenue, and I don’t recall it. There was still quite a bit of new construction going on in the area about that time, though.

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Joe Vogel commented about Clune's Auditorium on Jun 28, 2007 at 5:26 am

That building at far left could be a corner of the California Club, unless it’s the very back of the old Masonic Temple (fronting on Hill Street a few doors north of the College Theatre) which was demolished to make way for the temporary Hill Street Station that operated during the construction of the Subway Terminal building.

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Joe Vogel commented about Clune's Auditorium on Jun 27, 2007 at 11:22 pm

The Hill Street Station depicted in that photo was on or adjacent to the Subway Terminal building’s site, just above the middle of the block between 4th and 5th. There had been an interurban depot on that site since 1908. The depot was moved into the Subway Terminal in 1926.

That is the Biltmore beyond the auditorium. That dates the photo at no earlier than 1922. The passenger shed in the picture was demolished in 1924, replaced by a temporary structure farther south, to make way for construction of the Subway Terminal.

It turns out that the USC archive has a larger scan of the same photo.

Read more about the Hill Street Station on this page at the ERHA website.

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Joe Vogel commented about Clune's Auditorium on Jun 27, 2007 at 6:32 am

Sorry, that was entirely the wrong link I just posted (though an interesting picture- unfortunately having nothing to do with theatres.)

The Auditorium picture is right here.

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Joe Vogel commented about Clune's Auditorium on Jun 27, 2007 at 6:29 am

Here’s and interesting perspective on this theatre: a photo from about 1922 of the Pacific Electric’s Hill Street Station, and looming behind it are the back and side walls of the Auditorium.

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Joe Vogel commented about Town Theatre on Jun 26, 2007 at 6:12 am

So far, no photos of the Town during its first decade when it was Bard’s Hill Street Theatre have surfaced, but here is a photo from the 1910s showing the east side of Hill Street south of 4th Street. The building which A.C. Martin remodeled for Bard’s Theatre is easy to spot, being the sole one-story structure on the near block, and having a full-width awning.

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Joe Vogel commented about Bandbox Theatre on Jun 24, 2007 at 7:11 am

This picture recently added to the L.A. Library’s on-line photo collection shows Hill Street south of 6th in what is probably the late 1920s. (The library’s information page about the photo misidentifies it as Spring Street ca1920.) At the very left can be seen part of the theatre’s marquee. Another, smaller marquee farther along the same building probably marks the entrance to the dance hall on the second floor.

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Joe Vogel commented about Mesa Theatre on Jun 24, 2007 at 4:52 am

My source for the September, 1963 closure, April, 1964 fire, and July, 1965 demolition of the charred ruins is an article in the Crenshaw area paper, the News-Advertiser, of July 18, 1965. Pick up a pdf scan of it from the L.A. Library. There’s a barely legible picture of a wall about to get whacked with a big ball.

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Joe Vogel commented about Mesa Theatre on Jun 23, 2007 at 10:50 pm

The Times was right. The Mesa was at Crenshaw and Slauson in the Angeles Mesa district of Los Angeles. Crenshaw and Manchester is in Inglewood. I think the address of 8507 must be wrong. Slauson would be 58th Street if it were numbered, so maybe the first two numbers of the address got transposed when this page was set up?

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Joe Vogel commented about Palomar Theatre on Jun 23, 2007 at 8:19 am

In the first comment on the page vodvilnut gives a date of 1915 for the construction of this theatre, but the PSTOS page Lost Memory linked to last January gives a construction date of 1911. Both dates also appear at various other sites on the Internet. Can anybody confirm one date or the other? I know that B. Marcus Priteca designed his first Pantages Theatre (in San Francisco) in 1911. Could he have designed and gotten the Seattle house built as well in that same year?

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Joe Vogel commented about Pantages Theater on Jun 23, 2007 at 8:11 am

Randall: The Seattle Pantages is here under the name Rex Theatre.

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Joe Vogel commented about Las Palmas Theatre on Jun 23, 2007 at 7:54 am

Bway: If you’re still watching this page, the photos RobertR linked to back in 2005 depict the theatre on Vine Street north of Hollywood Boulevard which has been variously known as the Hollywood Playhouse, El Capitan Theater, Hollywood Palace, and the Avalon Hollywood, among other names. Built in 1926, it’s been a playhouse, a television studio (during which time it was the location where Richard Nixon made his famous “Checkers” speech), and a night club, but never a movie theatre. If somebody would lease it for a few months for showing films then we’d be able to give it a page here.

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Joe Vogel commented about Principal Theater on Jun 23, 2007 at 6:25 am

It just dawned on me that 223 N. Main would have been on one of the blocks razed to create the site for City Hall, so that would explain why the Principal Theatre was relocated in the mid 1920s.

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Joe Vogel commented about Roosevelt Theatre on Jun 22, 2007 at 1:49 am

The address of Miller’s Theatre was 842 S. Main Street. It was still in operation in 1924, when it and Miller’s California Theatre up the block were both taken over by Loew’s.

Miller’s Theatre can be seen at the far right (with a sunburst decorating its marquee) in this c1917 photograph from the USC digital archives. An ad for the theatre can also be seen on the wall of the tall building at the center of the picture. Before the USC site did away with its zoom feature it was possible to get a closer view of the marquee and see that it advertised “Wm. Fox Photoplays”.

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Joe Vogel commented about Gentry Theatre on Jun 22, 2007 at 12:08 am

Since the Sunbeam was being advertised in 1935 and Lee’s design dates only from 1937, does that mean he remodeled an old theatre, or was the old building demolished and replaced? Judging from ken mc’s recent photos it looks to me like a thoroughly 1937 vintage building.

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Joe Vogel commented about Cinemaland on Jun 21, 2007 at 11:40 pm

The L.A. Library website’s California Index has three cards referencing Southwest Builder & Contractor mentions of an engineer named W.M. Bostock. Though SB&C is notorious for typos, it seldom makes the same typo in every instance. I’ve also found a Los Angeles engineer named W.M. Bostock quoted in a 1933 Time Magazine article, so it’s probable that SB&C got the name right.

As for architect L.M. Bostock, the California Index contains no references to him. If ken mc’s source was The L.A. Times, which has usually been good at keeping typos to a minimum, I’d be inclined to believe that we are dealing with two different guys and L.M. was not just a typo. If L.M. Bostock was an architect, his absence from the California Index suggests that he was a fairly obscure one. But since W.M. is only mentioned in the context of two buildings (Cinemaland and the El Sereno Theatre), I guess he’s pretty obscure himself.