Some interior views can be seen at http://www.midnightmadness.org/sfa-jja00-i.htm I’m surprised nobody’s reopened this place. You’d think there would be an audience for SOME film in the loop, besides the Siskel. Obviously there once was…
Michael- This article from the Chicago’s e-mail newsletter illustrates to a degree what you were talking about. The old lower marquee area really looked much better, it’s a shame they haven’t restored that as well. Indeed, if the show begins on the sidewalk, why not bring that back to the proper splendor? Also, I recieved an email reply to some questions I had asked, which brought this information: “The marquee restoration
project was started due to structural damage found last year. The
marquee has not been changed, just refurbished and strengthened to
better reflect the original look, and to make sure it is safe. The
restoration should be complete in the coming week or two. It will
officially be re-lit at the beginning of September. ”
A couple more factoids on the Chicago, verbatim from their email newsletter:
“On the original blue prints , the theatre was not called "The Chicago Theatre.” What was the original name proposed for the theatre?
Capitol Theatre and Ambassador Theatre
Both of these names appeared on working drawings and renderings. It was common to change a buildings name while plans were being finalized or even as the building was being built.
Perhaps Balaban & Katz resisted the name due to announcements that a number of new theatres around town were also considering it. In the end, they were the only ones to actually go through with the idea.
The Chicago Theatre is actually the sixth to bear the name. The first opened in 1838, and was a small dingy theatre located at 8 and 10 S. Dearborn. Others included a “Chicago” at 614 S. State, John B. Rice’s theatre on Randolph, the Olympic theatre on Clark (later the Apollo), the Chicago Opera House, and the American Music Hall after it was taken over by the Shuberts."
I like the marquee and vertical, but they do not appear to really match the originals. Comparing the photos on this page, http://michtheater.org/theater_history.php, and http://michtheater.org/theater_today.php?id=0, the vertical appears to be somewhat smaller and lower than the original. Note that the I on the new vertical is in line with the arch, where on the original the G is in this line. Also, this entry says that the new marquee shows more of the building than the previous, but it looks to me like the current one is an adaptation of the one shown on this page, as it seems to have the same dimensions. That said, the new one does suit the facade better, and all the prior marquees for the Michigan seem to be unusually attractive, even the 1940s version http://michtheater.org/theater_history.php?id=5 This place has had an awful lot of looks! The 1950s one was pretty unfortunate, though…
Originally named the Lyric. I would guess this was remodeled in the 60s and 70s, from the marquee, lower facade, and interior. The house lacks any ornamentation, but I doubt there was any in the first place. It looks like a typical 60s theater inside, but nice and largish. One curious feature is a partial boat hull in the very rear. It looks as though there was originally a balcony, now used as a large projection booth. Many original details remain such as padded, brass-tacked doors and box office. I’ve never seen a theater with such legroom – you can stretch your legs completely out. It has a lot of charm. Projection looked a little fuzzy, with good sound, and apparently they still change reels, because there was a very brief intermission. Web site is www.geocities.com/tomahawkcinema . I took a number of pictures of this. Also one at View link
Ah, I see… i’d be very interested in seeing these pictures if they’re published somewhere. The chicago is what sparked my interest in movie theaters, in grade school we went to see Joeseph and were stuck in the vestibule for 3 or 4 hours after the bus that was to pick us up got in some kind of minor accident
A shot of the side of the Chicago theater, showing the painted billboard in the alley, is visible in this Chicago Tribune gallery (free registration req’d). This shot also includes a sliver of the old Loop Theater, what would have been the ‘stagehouse’, were there one
Michael,
I’d never heard or seen anything about the marquee being higher up, or the canopy being different… I couldn’t quite tell from the photo chronology. Do you have any further info? Also, any idea what the recesses above the marquee were for? From the earliest picture I saw it looked like there were bushes there… but I can’t imagine why
Yeah, that could very well be. Personally, I thought the black suited it better,though. It added to the deco feel. Also, they did a rather poor job of painting-black spots are all over around the edges, and the painting looks very unprofessional. I wonder what truly is the proper paint scheme for this marquee- I can’t imagine that postcard view being correct, it looks so odd! Although it does show the eagle details painted, which may point to authenticity, since they have been whited out in the more recent paint schemes. Now, a marquee that really needs some paint is the Des Plaines… although I believe the DPTPS may be looking at replacement options.
http://www.catoe.org/Pickwick.html Shows some great pictures of the Pickwick’s incredible firescreen and console, considered by some to be among the finest examples of cubist art. It also might be noted that the black portions of the marquee were recently painted red for some reason. Here is a cute story about a wedding proposal at the Pickwick, also indicating a coming TV appearance for it.
Actually, I think that original marquee might have formed the base for the neon signage. When the marquee was taken down, the canopy remained in place, and it looked an awful lot like that; I have some pictures of this. I think when the signage was added, it was simply attached to that. Now, this may have been the reason for the replacement in the first place; I would imagine that after 80 years, the cantilevered sign would necessitate the temporary support columns which were in place for the past several years. I wouldn’t be surprised if this proect came about because the underlying structure required repair or replacement. I think they made the right choice in recreating the marquee; it’s one of the classic examples of movie marquees, it’s a landmark in itself and a symbol of Chicago (and I think it’s protected), it is strongly identified with the theater, and has been for 90% of the time, during which nearly all the other palaces recieved stale, unappealing marquees, proving its timeless quality. I’m quite pleased with the way it has turned out; I can’t wait to see it lit at night again.
They looked like the cut down version. It was neat seeing the workers lifting it into place… if you look at my recent comments on the theatre’s page, you’ll see the original marquee had these shorter sides, but slightly different. I thought the full height sides looked rather out of proportion, which is presumably why they went back to the short sides in the first place
Sides are the same styles as the ones that were previously on there. I would’ve liked to see them return to the original side style (with Chicago on top of each side), but oh well. I saw these being installed in person last night
Sorry, I should have been more clear, the links are there to show a chronology, there aren’t any shots of the new marquee. I’m going to go back down there and take some later this week.
I should add that this page shows that the previous marquee was installed in 1949, and I have photos of the Chicago with the marquee stripped from earier this year.
The new marquee is being installed today, and wow, does it look great! The colors are all very smooth and vivid. Only thing I don’t care for is that they did not bring back the “Chicago” signs on the side boards that was in the original iteration of this marquee.
I’ve assembled a full progression of the theater marquee; links are listed below.
Marquee Version 1: http://www.moviepalaces.net/Chicago-ext-1923.htm View link
This site includes a number of excellent vintage shots of theaters, be sure to check it out.
V2: http://uptowntheatre.com/Pages/3centuries.html
V3: View link
V4: View link
and lit, View link
V4.5: It looks like due to age, the old marquee was being supported by the temporary columns seen in this photo, necessitating the new one. View link Also, if you look to the far right on the building, you can see the faded painted billboard for the Chicago. The site I got this from also has a couple interesting pictures showing what the Chicago looks like from the stage
V5: This is currently being installed; unfortunately, I did not have my camera with me tonight
Upon slightly closer examination, the marquees date this as a May 1963 photo. The movies booked seem to bespeak a great deal about each theater, indeed, excellent representations of each theater’s clientele. At the Chicago, Bye Bye Birdie is showing. At the State-Lake, the Ian… indicates that Dr. No is showing, and the Loop is showing Mondo Cane.
It should be noted that this theatre successfully competed with the Woodfield and One Schaumburg Place cinemas, as those were both operated by Cineplex Odeon (somewhat confusing in itself that Cineplex Odeon would operate two sets of theatres essentially next door to each other, this is probably why the Woodfield outlots and mall cinema were later closed). Once the One Schaumburg Place cinemas were also closed, the Rolling Meadows had the market essentially cornered… this was short-lived, however, after Sony and Cineplex merged with Loews, which then opened up the Streets of Woodfield in the former One Schaumburg Place building, with much better theatres than the Rolling Meadows offered.
Anyone know what’s going on with the Riv currently? There are only two shows booked, Devo on 9/24 and Monty Python 12/21 – 01/01. Perhaps it’s being restored? I found this note suggesting it might be under renovation. The last show I saw there was Air on 4/20, and it looked like there was new plaster restoration work going on in a few areas, so i’m guessing (hoping?) a restoration is underway.
Some interior views can be seen at http://www.midnightmadness.org/sfa-jja00-i.htm I’m surprised nobody’s reopened this place. You’d think there would be an audience for SOME film in the loop, besides the Siskel. Obviously there once was…
Michael-
This article from the Chicago’s e-mail newsletter illustrates to a degree what you were talking about. The old lower marquee area really looked much better, it’s a shame they haven’t restored that as well. Indeed, if the show begins on the sidewalk, why not bring that back to the proper splendor? Also, I recieved an email reply to some questions I had asked, which brought this information: “The marquee restoration
project was started due to structural damage found last year. The
marquee has not been changed, just refurbished and strengthened to
better reflect the original look, and to make sure it is safe. The
restoration should be complete in the coming week or two. It will
officially be re-lit at the beginning of September. ”
A couple more factoids on the Chicago, verbatim from their email newsletter:
“On the original blue prints , the theatre was not called "The Chicago Theatre.” What was the original name proposed for the theatre?
Capitol Theatre and Ambassador Theatre
Both of these names appeared on working drawings and renderings. It was common to change a buildings name while plans were being finalized or even as the building was being built.
Perhaps Balaban & Katz resisted the name due to announcements that a number of new theatres around town were also considering it. In the end, they were the only ones to actually go through with the idea.
The Chicago Theatre is actually the sixth to bear the name. The first opened in 1838, and was a small dingy theatre located at 8 and 10 S. Dearborn. Others included a “Chicago” at 614 S. State, John B. Rice’s theatre on Randolph, the Olympic theatre on Clark (later the Apollo), the Chicago Opera House, and the American Music Hall after it was taken over by the Shuberts."
I like the marquee and vertical, but they do not appear to really match the originals. Comparing the photos on this page, http://michtheater.org/theater_history.php, and http://michtheater.org/theater_today.php?id=0, the vertical appears to be somewhat smaller and lower than the original. Note that the I on the new vertical is in line with the arch, where on the original the G is in this line. Also, this entry says that the new marquee shows more of the building than the previous, but it looks to me like the current one is an adaptation of the one shown on this page, as it seems to have the same dimensions. That said, the new one does suit the facade better, and all the prior marquees for the Michigan seem to be unusually attractive, even the 1940s version http://michtheater.org/theater_history.php?id=5 This place has had an awful lot of looks! The 1950s one was pretty unfortunate, though…
I noticed in Bryan Krefft’s post on the Clark/Adelphi that the Astor is visible in the background of this photo: View link
Originally named the Lyric. I would guess this was remodeled in the 60s and 70s, from the marquee, lower facade, and interior. The house lacks any ornamentation, but I doubt there was any in the first place. It looks like a typical 60s theater inside, but nice and largish. One curious feature is a partial boat hull in the very rear. It looks as though there was originally a balcony, now used as a large projection booth. Many original details remain such as padded, brass-tacked doors and box office. I’ve never seen a theater with such legroom – you can stretch your legs completely out. It has a lot of charm. Projection looked a little fuzzy, with good sound, and apparently they still change reels, because there was a very brief intermission. Web site is www.geocities.com/tomahawkcinema . I took a number of pictures of this. Also one at View link
hmm, yes, the first one worked for me after reloading. I see what you mean. And I misspelled Joseph. Whoops. Thanks!
Ah, I see… i’d be very interested in seeing these pictures if they’re published somewhere. The chicago is what sparked my interest in movie theaters, in grade school we went to see Joeseph and were stuck in the vestibule for 3 or 4 hours after the bus that was to pick us up got in some kind of minor accident
A shot of the side of the Chicago theater, showing the painted billboard in the alley, is visible in this Chicago Tribune gallery (free registration req’d). This shot also includes a sliver of the old Loop Theater, what would have been the ‘stagehouse’, were there one
Michael,
I’d never heard or seen anything about the marquee being higher up, or the canopy being different… I couldn’t quite tell from the photo chronology. Do you have any further info? Also, any idea what the recesses above the marquee were for? From the earliest picture I saw it looked like there were bushes there… but I can’t imagine why
Yeah, that could very well be. Personally, I thought the black suited it better,though. It added to the deco feel. Also, they did a rather poor job of painting-black spots are all over around the edges, and the painting looks very unprofessional. I wonder what truly is the proper paint scheme for this marquee- I can’t imagine that postcard view being correct, it looks so odd! Although it does show the eagle details painted, which may point to authenticity, since they have been whited out in the more recent paint schemes. Now, a marquee that really needs some paint is the Des Plaines… although I believe the DPTPS may be looking at replacement options.
http://www.catoe.org/Pickwick.html Shows some great pictures of the Pickwick’s incredible firescreen and console, considered by some to be among the finest examples of cubist art. It also might be noted that the black portions of the marquee were recently painted red for some reason. Here is a cute story about a wedding proposal at the Pickwick, also indicating a coming TV appearance for it.
Actually, I think that original marquee might have formed the base for the neon signage. When the marquee was taken down, the canopy remained in place, and it looked an awful lot like that; I have some pictures of this. I think when the signage was added, it was simply attached to that. Now, this may have been the reason for the replacement in the first place; I would imagine that after 80 years, the cantilevered sign would necessitate the temporary support columns which were in place for the past several years. I wouldn’t be surprised if this proect came about because the underlying structure required repair or replacement. I think they made the right choice in recreating the marquee; it’s one of the classic examples of movie marquees, it’s a landmark in itself and a symbol of Chicago (and I think it’s protected), it is strongly identified with the theater, and has been for 90% of the time, during which nearly all the other palaces recieved stale, unappealing marquees, proving its timeless quality. I’m quite pleased with the way it has turned out; I can’t wait to see it lit at night again.
They looked like the cut down version. It was neat seeing the workers lifting it into place… if you look at my recent comments on the theatre’s page, you’ll see the original marquee had these shorter sides, but slightly different. I thought the full height sides looked rather out of proportion, which is presumably why they went back to the short sides in the first place
Some photos of the Wilmette are visible here, the projection booth is shown here, and the incredibly cramped men’s quarters can be seen here
Sides are the same styles as the ones that were previously on there. I would’ve liked to see them return to the original side style (with Chicago on top of each side), but oh well. I saw these being installed in person last night
Sorry, I should have been more clear, the links are there to show a chronology, there aren’t any shots of the new marquee. I’m going to go back down there and take some later this week.
I should add that this page shows that the previous marquee was installed in 1949, and I have photos of the Chicago with the marquee stripped from earier this year.
The new marquee is being installed today, and wow, does it look great! The colors are all very smooth and vivid. Only thing I don’t care for is that they did not bring back the “Chicago” signs on the side boards that was in the original iteration of this marquee.
I’ve assembled a full progression of the theater marquee; links are listed below.
Marquee Version 1:
http://www.moviepalaces.net/Chicago-ext-1923.htm
View link
This site includes a number of excellent vintage shots of theaters, be sure to check it out.
V2:
http://uptowntheatre.com/Pages/3centuries.html
V3:
View link
V4:
View link
and lit, View link
V4.5: It looks like due to age, the old marquee was being supported by the temporary columns seen in this photo, necessitating the new one.
View link Also, if you look to the far right on the building, you can see the faded painted billboard for the Chicago. The site I got this from also has a couple interesting pictures showing what the Chicago looks like from the stage
V5: This is currently being installed; unfortunately, I did not have my camera with me tonight
Upon slightly closer examination, the marquees date this as a May 1963 photo. The movies booked seem to bespeak a great deal about each theater, indeed, excellent representations of each theater’s clientele. At the Chicago, Bye Bye Birdie is showing. At the State-Lake, the Ian… indicates that Dr. No is showing, and the Loop is showing Mondo Cane.
http://www.geocities.com/boc2400/thchicago1970.jpg An excellent shot of the State-Lake, Chicago, and Loop theatre marquees is visible in this 1970s Postcard
Here is a link to an excellent picture of the Tivoli
View link
It should be noted that this theatre successfully competed with the Woodfield and One Schaumburg Place cinemas, as those were both operated by Cineplex Odeon (somewhat confusing in itself that Cineplex Odeon would operate two sets of theatres essentially next door to each other, this is probably why the Woodfield outlots and mall cinema were later closed). Once the One Schaumburg Place cinemas were also closed, the Rolling Meadows had the market essentially cornered… this was short-lived, however, after Sony and Cineplex merged with Loews, which then opened up the Streets of Woodfield in the former One Schaumburg Place building, with much better theatres than the Rolling Meadows offered.
Anyone know what’s going on with the Riv currently? There are only two shows booked, Devo on 9/24 and Monty Python 12/21 – 01/01. Perhaps it’s being restored? I found this note suggesting it might be under renovation. The last show I saw there was Air on 4/20, and it looked like there was new plaster restoration work going on in a few areas, so i’m guessing (hoping?) a restoration is underway.
http://www.film-tech.com/pics/avon/avon.html some pics here