Comments about DuPage Theatre Key to Downtown Lombard's Revival

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moody1785
moody1785 on March 29, 2007 at 2:50 pm

Rita. It isn’t about a library. I suggested giving the library the land and $9.5 million in TIF money that would be generated from whole block development and they do the backpeddle on the library.
What happened to LAMP?
Library at Main and Parkside? Read their backpeddle quote…“That idea was tossed out years ago and will never garner support from the board (library, park, and village!)”

So then what development will go on the “ most coveted ” piece of property in the entire Village of Lombard? It’s a BIG secret!!

Who do these people think their fooling?

RestorationRita
RestorationRita on March 29, 2007 at 2:19 pm

First off, “Preservation Princess” you can change your screen name all you want, but you can’t change the stink you bring. We all know you change names on a daily basis, so you’re not fooling anybody.
Second, I’m confused. You say a library on the DuPage property would never produce any sales tax “How could the library get $9.5 million in TIF if the library is not even a tax producing parcel” so why would we want to see our property taxes raised any more to pay for something that is outdated and unnecessary? You’re right, giving millions on TIF would be wrong, even though, by law, it could be done.
You mentioned all the reasons why the library wouldn’t work on that site, so WHY keep bringing it up? Even the library bopard president, in the most recent Lombardian, said they are trying to work out an agreement with the park board for the adjoining property. Everyone on town is smart enough to see the library isn’t a good fit. Except you!!!

DuPageIsDone
DuPageIsDone on March 29, 2007 at 1:59 pm

And you Ray are certainly not fit to walk in their footsteps either with your ongoing vendetta to anyone not in favor of preservation.

How could the library get $9.5 million in TIF if the library is not even a tax producing parcel? TIF can only come from development that generates property tax (thus the increment)growth….and giving millions in TIF to the library is simply not prudent.

What issues for a library? Has a library design with a need for setback variances, landscape variances, parking variances, traffic issues, and flood control variances come before the planning authorities? No it has not….and likely never will according to well placed sources. That idea was tossed out years ago and will never garner support from the board (library, park, and village!)

Now back to preservation issues…as this is a theatre advocacy site and not a platform for political follies.

moody1785
moody1785 on March 29, 2007 at 1:26 pm

Neighbor? Kindly let those that have passed away while serving their community rest in peace. Joan,Doug,and Mark. You aren’t fit to walk in their footsteps.

Then the Village of Lombard didn’t lie. No property taxes would be used for restoration and a cultural arts center.
TIF/Tax dollars? “Residents property values harmed by variances?”

Would you have the same concerns if those same issues existed for a library? Would you support giving $9.5 million in TIF for a library? Would you support setback variances ,landscape variances, parking variances,traffic issues , and flood control variances for a library?

DuPageIsDone
DuPageIsDone on March 29, 2007 at 1:22 pm

A little late now that the theatre is gone thanks to the Friends failed plan wouldn’t you say Ray? Or does “preservation at any cost” mean rebuild it brick by brick using millions more in TIF? If preservation was so important then why couldn’t the friends fund it themselves and instead were relying so heavily on TIF (property tax $$)??? Preservation at any cost failed because preservation only works if it is fiscally prudent and in this case it was NOT. Preservation at any cost fails time and time again….use your own money for that agenda, not TAX DOLLARS.

TheatreNeighbor
TheatreNeighbor on March 29, 2007 at 11:49 am

Preservation at any cost – Preserve no matter how much TIF/Tax dollars are used, no matter how many residents property values are harmed by the variances granted, no matter that the elected officials chosen by the residents through a democratic process voted against the preservation. That my old friend is “Preservation at ANY Cost”. It was an archaeic term that should have died with Doug.

moody1785
moody1785 on March 29, 2007 at 7:42 am

Neighbor? What does “preservation at any cost” mean to you? Can you define it? I would like to know who would pay for the preservation because the village staff held a information only meeting for Lombard residents about the theatre tif district and the village staff informed us that there would be no increase in real estate taxes for preservation with an arts center. Are you telling me that the village staff lied to the residents at that meeting?

DuPageIsDone
DuPageIsDone on March 29, 2007 at 4:35 am

You are right Restoration Rita…skip the library, skip saving any of the historic aspects, and instead build another unwarranted condo complex with a hair salon, a dentist office, and the prerequisite drugstore and give a 1200 square foot space to the arts. That is what downtown needs to thrive.

And you’re right that “your sount of ‘28’ is wrong by a long shot”…more like a dozen (Kevin, Laura, Deb, Dana, John, Barb, Virginia to name a few) tops is the reality of their support. Can you name anyone else?

And Rita just what is a “cultrual” center and what are “memebers”?

TheatreNeighbor
TheatreNeighbor on March 28, 2007 at 4:41 pm

Rita,
Please don’t speak for us. For a while there you sounded as though you might have some common sense and logic. Your last few posts have exposed you for a “preservation at any cost” lunatic.

RestorationRita
RestorationRita on March 28, 2007 at 3:31 pm

We’re sorry, but your sount of “28” is wrong by a long shot!!! We aren’t members of the Friends, and we have quite a few friends, neighbors and church members that are NOT memebers as well. Yet we all support the idea for a cultrual center at the DuPage. Most of us also do not believe that we need a new (unnecessary) library, nor do we want to see our property taxes raised to do such. We also do not believe for one minute that those against the theatre project want any sort of community development whether it be theatre, library or even a park!

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on March 28, 2007 at 12:36 pm

KF what have done done to save the theatre…besides supporting a demolition plan…what an oxymoron.

Talk about fraud, Yes I will admit that I bought a lemonade and they took my name, and my wife’s name, oh and my newborn baby’s name and all the sudden all 3 of us are considered one of the “5000 theatre supporters”. We know the truth that there are only 28 supporters left.

The only frauds on this site are the friends and their leadership that supported a demolition plan.

raymond
raymond on March 28, 2007 at 8:34 am

Quotation from Challenger=(Crazy Ray)=(DuPage fiends)& =(TBA).
“Brain, I would have liked to see this theatre saved, seeing I know a little more about its history than you do. It has been well documented that I called for this group of friends to be disbanded years ago and for some other people to step up to the plate. Their egos' got to big and now they support a plan that included demolition. I have never supported this current plan, have you???”

Cry me a river. If he REALLY wanted this theater saved and wanted another group involved all he had to do was organize one. Nobody would have or could have stopped him. Instead he just complains about those that stepped up and were counted. Instead his only claim to fame for attempting to save the theater is he purchased a lemonade at a fundraiser. And that is well documented. What a big spender!! Cry me a river. We know where he comes from. He is as transparent as his post names.
He sings the song about how he wanted it saved but DID NOTHING to save it. His words are as cheap and his motives.
Mr.DuPage fiend. I have news for you. Forget your pompous speches about wanting this theater saved. Actions speak louder than words. You are a fraud.

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on March 27, 2007 at 5:15 am

So you don’t deny following them around at least. Maybe your time would have been better spent fundraising FOR the theatre instead of supporting a plan that included demolition of the theatre.

Maybe you buddy Devitt should have stapled his papers together. HAHA A thousand ballots. not close. But who cares anyway, the more you guys talk about politics the stronger my case is…that your group was/is failures.

Funny how you guys supported Tross when he voted for you and now you are against him..Too bad the new Trustee will vote against the theatre even with your two other puppet trustees

RestorationRita
RestorationRita on March 27, 2007 at 4:09 am

I just ran into Mrs. Devitt here in town, and asked her about these “questions” you had. After I respond, this subject should be over. Go back to Lensch’s site if you want to talk trash, leave those of us that enjoy old theatres alone.

The deck. It was built on top of an existing deck. He DID pay for the permit. Tross’s deck was new construction. I believe Tross even put a hot tub on it…Eww, there’s a visual I didn’t need!

Following trustees around? No sir. But when their name is on their plate, it makes spotting them much easier… Whether it be at a local watering hole or on Grace Street.

Few votes? The numbers the told me were out of close to a thousand ballots, the final difference was like 30 or so. That’s pretty close for a write-in! How is he “knee-deep” in local politics? Does he hold public office? Or does he, like a majority of Lombardians, want to see something like a cultural center, done for the community that WILL NOT raise their property taxes like a library would do?

I’m on the library board? REALLY? OH MY GOSH! I havn'e attended a SINGLE meeting! How awful of me!

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on March 27, 2007 at 3:05 am

And Rita one more thing…Thanks for proving that dupagedude is, in fact, Jim devitt because he has lied repeatedly about it.

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on March 27, 2007 at 3:02 am

His deck violated code also, too big and too close to the lot line. Who cares about Tross' deck it was built within limits and he eventually paid. No Harm.

If anybody should be embarassed it should be you and your theatre group, following the trustees around town trying to create some kind of scandal. Heavens if they should do 26 in a 25 speedzone while driving.

It was NOT only a “few” votes, but thanks for your “expertise” on local politics which supports my theory that Jim’s agenda is one of politics. If he “left” town then why is he knee deep involved in local politics?

Isn’t that why you are on the library board, to make sure the library doesn’t go there.

RestorationRita
RestorationRita on March 26, 2007 at 5:52 pm

seeing how I have been a resident of Lombard for more than a decade now, and as someone who did vote for Mr. Devitt, I will set you straight on a few things. First, it was not a “landslide” loss as you claimed, he ran as a write-in and lost by only a few votes. Second, can you name the Village codes he violated? He built a deck without a permit. As I remember, Trustee Tross did the very same thing. Other Trustees park their vehicles on the lawn. Several regularly violate other laws. And you are worried about a deck permit from what, five years ago? Last time we talked to the Devitt’s, they left after buying a larger home, and they were worried about issues in Lombard that weren’t being addressed by Seby and the rest of the Board.

What is your point in trying to embarass him? The only person you are embarassing is yourself by being so childish.

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on March 26, 2007 at 5:25 pm

Dupagedude is none other than Jim Devit, the same person who lost his election by a landslide, violated several village codes, adn left Lombard in shame with his tale between his legs. ALL FACTS! Not even Jim can deny them.

Now he calls us “anti-culture” when before he called us “anti-theatre”. Which is it? Your agenda has always been politics. Now you support a plan that included demolition, and you call yourself a preservationist.

DuPageDude
DuPageDude on March 26, 2007 at 2:58 pm

Brian, pleae make no mistake about these few anti-culture individuals agenda. They claim theatre supporters call people in the middle of the night and harass them, and that the paper is full of stories of such “…I have a small child and I do not need them calling my house in the middle of the night as they have been known to do. That is how this group is, they resort to name-calling and threats…read the Daily Herald any time” Where are the articles. I CHALLENGE CHALLENGER, oops excuse me DuPage Fiends to produce ONE article that specifically says that. There are none. But what about the article about all the theatre support signs STOLEN and DUMPED that were recovered?

Make no mistake about it, these people want there to be ZERO remnants of the DuPage Theatre. They want to see the property cleared. They DO NOT care about a library on the property. These people talk about a library/cultural center/theatre there, but the same two people who started LOMBARD LIMP.com had a website that showed bulldozers and had a “countdown to the bulldozer parade at Main and parkside” on it. Pretty catchy, huh? Now they claim to want to work for a theatre/cultural center on the site, and claim the Friends won’t work with them. Why would they? lokk at their track record towards the project.

Challenger oops, he changed his screen name (AGAIN!) calls someone an “idiot” yet he’s afraid to be attacked. He better be careful, living in that glass house of his. He also claims to be soooo worried about taxpayer dollars being used, yet where is his attack on other projects that use taxpayer dollars that directly affect him and his small child (God help the poor thing!)? Where’s his disdain towards Gov Blago’s Gross Receipts Tax Plan that would rob small businesses of valuable dollars? Where’s his disdain at tax dollars being used to build a splash park directly between a busy east-west road and a dangerous railroad track (one of the busiest in the State)?

Brian, I strongly suggest that you ignore ANY AND ALL of their venomous posts, they are full of hate and lies and just an attempt to flame this board to get it shut down. You see, if they get any pro-theatre pages shut down, the only outlet lefdt for people is the anti-theatre website that tries to pass itself of as neutral, but regularly censores and deletes pro-theatre messages.

DuPageDude
DuPageDude on March 26, 2007 at 2:58 pm

Brian, pleae make no mistake about these few anti-culture individuals agenda. They claim theatre supporters call people in the middle of the night and harass them, and that the paper is full of stories iof such “…I have a small child and I do not need them calling my house in the middle of the night as they have been known to do. That is how this group is, they resort to name-calling and threats…read the Daily Herald any time” Where are the articles. I CHALLENGE CHALLENGER, oops excuse me DuPage Fiends to produce ONE article that specifically says that. There are none. But what about the article about all the theatre support signs STOLEN and DUMPED that were recovered?

Make no mistake about it, these people want there to be ZERO remnants of the DuPage Theatre. They want to see the property cleared. They DO NOT care about a library on the property. These people talk about a library/cultural center/theatre there, but the same two people who started LOMBARD LIMP.com had a website that showed bulldozers and had a “countdown to the bulldozer parade at Main and parkside” on it. Pretty catchy, huh? Now they claim to want to work for a theatre/cultural center on the site, and claim the Friends won’t work with them. Why would they? lokk at their track record towards the project.

Challenger oops, he changed his screen name (AGAIN!) calls someone an “idiot” yet he’s afraid to be attacked. He better be careful, living in that glass house of his. He also claims to be soooo worried about taxpayer dollars being used, yet where is his attack on other projects that use taxpayer dollars that directly affect him and his small child (God help the poor thing!)? Where’s his disdain towards Gov Blago’s Gross Receipts Tax Plan that would rob small businesses of valuable dollars? Where’s his disdain at tax dollars being used to build a splash park directly between a busy east-west road and a dangerous railroad track (one of the busiest in the State)?

Brian, I strongly suggest that you ignore ANY AND ALL of their venomous posts, they are full of hate and lies and just an attempt to flame this board to get it shut down. You see, if they get any pro-theatre pages shut down, the only outlet lefdt for people is the anti-theatre website that tries to pass itself of as neutral, but regularly censores and deletes pro-theatre messages.

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on March 26, 2007 at 4:37 am

I will answer that because it is an easy one to answer. The Friends of the theatre for years have spread their lies and misinformation on this site and others. Our job, (Yes “our” because there are many of us) has been to make sure the truth is being told.

I, for one, have been critical of their group for years as they have said (ad nauseam) “no taxpayer money will be used”. Well now we have a plan in place that is fully taxpayer funded that also included demolition.

All one has to do it look at their history…bake sales and pancake breakfast’s bringing in hundreds of $$ when they needed Millions of $$. AND THEN POOF!!! THE FUNDRAISING STOPPED. Now their mission statement is “why fundraise when the taxpayers could foot the bill”.

Brain, I would have liked to see this theatre saved, seeing I know a little more about its history than you do. It has been well documented that I called for this group of friends to be disbanded years ago and for some other people to step up to the plate. Their egos' got to big and now they support a plan that included demolition. I have never supported this current plan, have you???

As far as my name is concerned, I have a small child and I do not need them calling my house in the middle of the night as they have been known to do. That is how this group is, they resort to name-calling and threats…read the Daily Herald any time…these are facts.

As far as this idiot Ray M. is concerned, his agenda is about politics, just read his posts. He was kicked off another webiste/blog and now he came here to spew his venom. Fact!

So in a nutshell, to answer your question, I was for the the theatre but against “preservation at any cost”, but now the theatre is gone.

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on March 25, 2007 at 9:30 am

My agenda is to make sure the taxpayers don’t fund this project. Which could have been done if the friends weren’t in charge, now we have nothing to show for it except a demolished thatre that the friends supported.

What is your agenda Brian Wolf?

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on March 24, 2007 at 3:16 am

folks don’t be fooled by Ray M. His agenda is revenge and he could care less about preservation.

moody1785
moody1785 on March 16, 2007 at 5:39 am

Update about the DuPage Theatre.

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DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on March 8, 2007 at 1:27 pm

Ray M.,

What a coincidence, the other website message board gets shut down and now you post here. Your posts are nothing more than a smear campaign and you could care less about the theatre. We have exposed you and Jim as frauds time and time again.