Well, the article didn’t state if the Amphion was a movie theater or not. Maybe we’ll just pass on that one.
The only Luxor theater that I have found so far is one that was on Bleecker st in Manhattan which is listed as closed. I found another one on a German website but I couldn’t read the article because it was in German.
I found another one of those Times Weekly articles that mentioned the Ridgewood Folly theater. This one said that it had a piano and the name of the woman that played the piano was Dorathy Franz. Not much info there. At least I know that it did have a piano. I don’t believe that I’m going to find much more on this one. I’m dealing with a small neighborhood theater that is almost 100 years old. How many people that are still around today would remember it? I doubt that there would be very many of them. Should anyone find where it was located, post it and I’ll enter the Ridgewood Folly on this website.
I also came across this. The Amphion Theater in Bushwick. No location given. It had 2000 seats and it claims to be the first theater with electric lights. Has anyone heard of this theater?
Alan…..I know how it is when the old memory starts heading south. Some of the info I’m looking for on certain theater’s should already be in my head somewhere. The problem is, it won’t come out so I have to spend all this time looking for things that I should already know. If the location to the Knickerbocker theater comes back to you, just post it here.
The Ridgewood Folly and Kreuscher’s Arcade are listed on Cinematour but there is no info given for either one. I also came across the Ridgewood Folly on a silent theater website. That website also listed the Majestic theater as the Majestic Seneca. I would like to find an address for the Ridgewood Folly or at least the street where it was located.
The Kreuscher’s Arcade was part of Kreuscher’s Hotel. It was located on the southeast corner of Myrtle ave and Cypress ave. It claims to be the first “theater” to show “Motion Pictures” in Ridgewood. At the same time that Kreuscher’s was showing “Motion Pictures”, there was another theater in Ridgewood called the Ridgewood Folly. I cannot find the location for the Ridgewood Folly but I have seen a photo of it so it did exist. I don’t know when either one opened, but both were showing “Motion Pictures” in 1910. And both charged 5 cents admission. To further date the Ridgewood Folly, a movie that played there in 1910 was called “The Woman From Mellons” directed by D.W. Griffith who was also the screenwriter. I have already confirmed that this movie was released in 1910.
I can’t prove or disprove that Kreuscher’s showed the first “Motion Picture” in Ridgewood. Even if they were the first to show “Motion Pictures”, your opinion might be different, but I don’t consider Kreuscher’s to be a true movie theater. Kreuscher’s Arcade and “Movie Theater” did not last long. It was sold in 1913. By 1914
the Hotel became a restaurant called the Queens Labor Lyceum Hofbrau Haus.
Even if the Ridgewood Folly was not the first to show “Motion Pictures”, it is very possible that it was the first real movie theater in Ridgewood. The small amount of information that I found on these two “theaters” was very difficult to get, so please feel free to add anything that you know about either or both of them. If the Ridgewood Folly was the first movie theater in Ridgewood, it deserves a place on this website.
I can answer my own question. The Starr theater was located at 233 Knickerbocker Ave. That puts it within one block of the Willoughby theater. Oh well, I’m going back to my research of the Kreuschers Arcade.
So, in the 30’s it was the Irving theater and in the 40’s it was the Mozart theater are the same. Now if Alan D remembers the location of the Knickerbocker theater we would have a better idea if the Irving/Mozart was also the Knickerbocker theater.
1525 Myrtle ave would be near Irving ave which is close to Knickerbocker ave. It is possible that the Knickerbocker and the Mozart theater are one in the same.
Okay, I’ll see what else I can find on the Mozart theater.
While I was looking up info for the Mozart-Grove-Rige-Knickerbocker theaters, I came across a Kreuschers Arcade. I know that it says “Arcade” but it is listed under cinemas on the web. The location given for it is Cypress ave and Myrtle ave. Has anyone heard of this one?
Just to make sure that you all stay as confused about this Grove theater as I am, someone told me that they remember a theater on Myrtle near Knickerbocker and it was called the Mozart theater. Is that possible?
I read this on another message board. “The Grove theater was located on Wilson Avenue. The Grove had an outdoor theater, and in the summer that’s where the movies were shown (pre-air conditioning)”.
Now I’m more confused then I was before. Is the Grove near Knickerbocker or is it by Wilson ave?
Eddie…..I’m a very easy going person, but your becoming a real pain in the butt. Warren can’t be your friend because I don’t believe that you have any friends. This site isn’t a playground for pre-schoolers. If you want to post theater related messages, that’s fine. If your sole purpose for coming here is to annoy people and cause trouble, then I will ask the Webmaster to ban you from this website. Your IP number can also be traced and your real identity known. Think it over and make the smart choice because I will no longer tolerate your childish nonsense.
Warren….Don’t misunderstand me, I’m not trying to prove you wrong or me right. I’m just posting here what I find. I haven’t found the sight with the movie listings for the Knickerbocker yet, but I’ll keep looking.
I did find a picture of the interior of the Knickerbocker theater, originally named Abbey’s Theater.
In your opinion, should this theater be considered a cinema theater or not. I don’t want to spend time researching this if it was used primarily for plays.
Warren…..I don’t know what the Knickerbocker theater in Manhattan was used for when it first opened, but the “THE CRINOLINE GIRL” was a silent movie that played there in 1914. You can verify that movie at this website:
Silent movies were shown at the Knickerbocker theater. I had a website that gave a list of movies that opened at that theater but I can’t remember where it was. If I come across that site again, I’ll post it for you.
That is an odd coincidence. I guess that “Casino” was a popular name for a theater. This is what I found on the Casino in Manhattan:
“Casino Theatre(NYC) – 1882 — Southeast corner of Broadway and 39th Streets (1300 seats) – was first theatre to have shows on its roof â€"stood until 1930 when it and Knickerbocker gave way to expanding garment district".
It seems like both of these theaters closed around the time that “talkies” appeared.
I checked and there was a theater in Manhattan called the Knickerbocker theater. It was near Broadway and 38th st. The New Yankee Cafe and the Leumi Bank are on its former location.
There is a Luxor theater that was in the Bronx that is already listed on this website.
During one search for the Luxor, I found a French theater listed for Brooklyn in 1910. I think that I need a new search engine!
Well, the article didn’t state if the Amphion was a movie theater or not. Maybe we’ll just pass on that one.
The only Luxor theater that I have found so far is one that was on Bleecker st in Manhattan which is listed as closed. I found another one on a German website but I couldn’t read the article because it was in German.
I found another one of those Times Weekly articles that mentioned the Ridgewood Folly theater. This one said that it had a piano and the name of the woman that played the piano was Dorathy Franz. Not much info there. At least I know that it did have a piano. I don’t believe that I’m going to find much more on this one. I’m dealing with a small neighborhood theater that is almost 100 years old. How many people that are still around today would remember it? I doubt that there would be very many of them. Should anyone find where it was located, post it and I’ll enter the Ridgewood Folly on this website.
I also came across this. The Amphion Theater in Bushwick. No location given. It had 2000 seats and it claims to be the first theater with electric lights. Has anyone heard of this theater?
Alan…..I know how it is when the old memory starts heading south. Some of the info I’m looking for on certain theater’s should already be in my head somewhere. The problem is, it won’t come out so I have to spend all this time looking for things that I should already know. If the location to the Knickerbocker theater comes back to you, just post it here.
The Ridgewood Folly and Kreuscher’s Arcade are listed on Cinematour but there is no info given for either one. I also came across the Ridgewood Folly on a silent theater website. That website also listed the Majestic theater as the Majestic Seneca. I would like to find an address for the Ridgewood Folly or at least the street where it was located.
Ridgewood Folly: http://www.cinematour.com/tour.php?db=us&id=24654
Kreuschers Arcade: http://www.cinematour.com/tour.php?db=us&id=24655
The Kreuscher’s Arcade was part of Kreuscher’s Hotel. It was located on the southeast corner of Myrtle ave and Cypress ave. It claims to be the first “theater” to show “Motion Pictures” in Ridgewood. At the same time that Kreuscher’s was showing “Motion Pictures”, there was another theater in Ridgewood called the Ridgewood Folly. I cannot find the location for the Ridgewood Folly but I have seen a photo of it so it did exist. I don’t know when either one opened, but both were showing “Motion Pictures” in 1910. And both charged 5 cents admission. To further date the Ridgewood Folly, a movie that played there in 1910 was called “The Woman From Mellons” directed by D.W. Griffith who was also the screenwriter. I have already confirmed that this movie was released in 1910.
I can’t prove or disprove that Kreuscher’s showed the first “Motion Picture” in Ridgewood. Even if they were the first to show “Motion Pictures”, your opinion might be different, but I don’t consider Kreuscher’s to be a true movie theater. Kreuscher’s Arcade and “Movie Theater” did not last long. It was sold in 1913. By 1914
the Hotel became a restaurant called the Queens Labor Lyceum Hofbrau Haus.
Even if the Ridgewood Folly was not the first to show “Motion Pictures”, it is very possible that it was the first real movie theater in Ridgewood. The small amount of information that I found on these two “theaters” was very difficult to get, so please feel free to add anything that you know about either or both of them. If the Ridgewood Folly was the first movie theater in Ridgewood, it deserves a place on this website.
I can answer my own question. The Starr theater was located at 233 Knickerbocker Ave. That puts it within one block of the Willoughby theater. Oh well, I’m going back to my research of the Kreuschers Arcade.
Well, 260 Knickerbocker Avenue would be near Willoughby ave and Starr st. Wasn’t the Starr theater in the same area?
BTW Warren…..Nice detective work on the Irving/Mozart theater.
So, in the 30’s it was the Irving theater and in the 40’s it was the Mozart theater are the same. Now if Alan D remembers the location of the Knickerbocker theater we would have a better idea if the Irving/Mozart was also the Knickerbocker theater.
1525 Myrtle ave would be near Irving ave which is close to Knickerbocker ave. It is possible that the Knickerbocker and the Mozart theater are one in the same.
Alan D….Would you happen to remember where the Kickerbocker theater that you went to was located?
Okay, I’ll see what else I can find on the Mozart theater.
While I was looking up info for the Mozart-Grove-Rige-Knickerbocker theaters, I came across a Kreuschers Arcade. I know that it says “Arcade” but it is listed under cinemas on the web. The location given for it is Cypress ave and Myrtle ave. Has anyone heard of this one?
It seems that the Grove theater formely the Rige theater was located at 474 Wilson ave just like Warren had already stated.
Now, could this Knickerbocker theater on Myrtle near Knickerbocker be the Mozart theater?
Just to make sure that you all stay as confused about this Grove theater as I am, someone told me that they remember a theater on Myrtle near Knickerbocker and it was called the Mozart theater. Is that possible?
He could be related to “Crazy Eddie” because his posts are “INSANE”!
I read this on another message board. “The Grove theater was located on Wilson Avenue. The Grove had an outdoor theater, and in the summer that’s where the movies were shown (pre-air conditioning)”.
Now I’m more confused then I was before. Is the Grove near Knickerbocker or is it by Wilson ave?
Eddie…..I’m a very easy going person, but your becoming a real pain in the butt. Warren can’t be your friend because I don’t believe that you have any friends. This site isn’t a playground for pre-schoolers. If you want to post theater related messages, that’s fine. If your sole purpose for coming here is to annoy people and cause trouble, then I will ask the Webmaster to ban you from this website. Your IP number can also be traced and your real identity known. Think it over and make the smart choice because I will no longer tolerate your childish nonsense.
Okay, thanks. Now I can go back to researching theaters in Ridgewood and Glendale.
Warren….Don’t misunderstand me, I’m not trying to prove you wrong or me right. I’m just posting here what I find. I haven’t found the sight with the movie listings for the Knickerbocker yet, but I’ll keep looking.
I did find a picture of the interior of the Knickerbocker theater, originally named Abbey’s Theater.
In your opinion, should this theater be considered a cinema theater or not. I don’t want to spend time researching this if it was used primarily for plays.
http://www.daviscrossfield.com/abbey.htm
Warren…..I don’t know what the Knickerbocker theater in Manhattan was used for when it first opened, but the “THE CRINOLINE GIRL” was a silent movie that played there in 1914. You can verify that movie at this website:
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0216639/
Silent movies were shown at the Knickerbocker theater. I had a website that gave a list of movies that opened at that theater but I can’t remember where it was. If I come across that site again, I’ll post it for you.
BTW…….“THE CRINOLINE GIRL” did open at the Knickerbocker theater in Manhattan.
That is an odd coincidence. I guess that “Casino” was a popular name for a theater. This is what I found on the Casino in Manhattan:
“Casino Theatre(NYC) – 1882 — Southeast corner of Broadway and 39th Streets (1300 seats) – was first theatre to have shows on its roof â€"stood until 1930 when it and Knickerbocker gave way to expanding garment district".
It seems like both of these theaters closed around the time that “talkies” appeared.
I don’t know if the Knickerbocker theater from Manhattan is on this site or not, but here is the info on it:
Abbey’s Theater(NYC) – 1893 – 1500 seats – next door to Casino Theater at 1396 Broadway and 39th St.
In 1896 it was renamed the Knickerbocker Theater – demolished 1930.
I checked and there was a theater in Manhattan called the Knickerbocker theater. It was near Broadway and 38th st. The New Yankee Cafe and the Leumi Bank are on its former location.
Is there a Knickerbocker theater listed for Manhattan? I came across the following:
“THE CRINOLINE GIRL” opening at the Knickerbocker theater on March 16, 1914.
Maybe the people writing these articles get confused. Maybe they remember the name of the theater but get the location wrong.
Thanks Peter. I think that I’ll give up on Map Quest and just ask you from now on. (just kidding)