RKO Keith's Theatre

135-35 Northern Boulevard,
Flushing, NY 11354

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NativeForestHiller
NativeForestHiller on December 29, 2006 at 3:41 am

(Copy of e-mail I sent to Jessica at )

Hi Jessica!

My name is Michael Perlman, and I am a native Queens resident. I am a preservationist who formed the Committee To Save The Trylon Theater in summer 2005, and I’m also on the board of directors of the Four Borough Preservation Alliance. My experience ranges from advocating for the preservation of historic theaters to other landmark-worthy properties borough-wide. I believe in adaptively reusing, restoring, and landmarking historic community fixtures, for economic purposes, and ultimately, inspiring current and future generations.

As rumor has it, owner/developer Boymelgreen might be considering to put Flushing’s RKO Keith’s Theatre up for sale, and Cinema Treasures theater enthusiasts and other preservationists Queens is seeking a saviour. However, if Boymelgreen’s proposed redevelopment plan of the site succeeds, almost all of the theater will be demolished, with the exception of the already landmarked lobby and lounge. I feel that enough of the original interior architectural elements are present to restore it, and reuse it as a music-related venue.

The RKO Keith’s Theatre has been the subject of debate since the 1980’s, and has sat in a state of disarray as a result of unlawful developers (i.e. Huang) and a handful of politicians who were unwilling to respect the community’s desires. Since its closure, the Committee To Save The RKO Keith’s was formed, and offline petitions, letter campaigns, and other actions have resulted. A recently launched petition that currently has over 400 signatures with commentary is as follows:

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Some of the most famous vaudeville acts and films are imbedded in the theater’s walls and people’s minds. Our consensus is that if this theater is demolished, Flushing will not only lose an unofficial landmark & noteworthy piece of architecture, but the heart of borough-wide residents and numerous enthusiasts will be torn out. Please acknowledge our pleas, and work with us in any way you can to polish a gem, and put to rest a controversy in Flushing, Queens. The Bronx has Loews Paradise, Brooklyn has Loews Kings, and NJ has Loews Jersey (all in good hands), but this is the only remaining “wonder theater” in Queens. We will assist you to the fullest extent!!!

To follow the RKO Keith’s thread, visit: /theaters/834/

Please e-mail Thank you!

TomStathes
TomStathes on December 28, 2006 at 5:57 pm

Jessica- if you’re out there, do consider the Keith’s!

Jeffrey1955
Jeffrey1955 on December 28, 2006 at 5:54 pm

“a lady by the name of Jessica who is looking for a property to save in the Long Island area”…
Well, Ken, that’s certainly not the kind of person you stumble across everyday!

TomStathes
TomStathes on December 28, 2006 at 5:48 pm

Wouldn’t it be something if the city took the property and handed it over to a group of preservationists (ahem, ahem) to figure out how to restore it? 0:–)

Bway
Bway on December 28, 2006 at 3:49 pm

Amazingly, after seeing the photos, as BAD as the place looks and as bad as it’s condition is, I believe enough of it’s original elements may remain to be able to restore it…if the money could be made available. It’s not the lost cause I once thought it was before seeing the photos.

KenRaniere
KenRaniere on December 28, 2006 at 2:10 pm

God bless ya, Jeffrey.

This is the only way I can see anything positive happening to this property: concerned citizens getting involved, short of this email I sent to a lady by the name of Jessica who is looking for a property to save in the Long Island area â€" if she is bogus, shame on us…
But if she is for real â€" well, no harm in my response:

Dear Jessica,
Please look into the RKO Keith, Flushing…
It has a wonderful following of concerned citizens who would like to retain this structure, individuals in and out of the area.
Its a venerable theatre in need of monetary support, and its in the right place…but it needs help before it ends up as a pile of bricks and dust.
If you are for real, then this is the deal â€"â€" bank on it, as its supporters will verify.
Check out Cinema Treasures, the RKO Keith, Flushing response board, for all the support you need to consider…for this theatre has touched many…the very same who would hate to see it destroyed.

Thanks for the hopeâ€"

Jeffrey1955
Jeffrey1955 on December 28, 2006 at 9:30 am

Very, very well stated, Ken.

KenRaniere
KenRaniere on December 28, 2006 at 7:56 am

As mentioned earlier in this forum, my interest in the RKO Keith Flushing is based on childhood movie experiences when a resident of Bayside and Flushing during the mid-1960s.
My family moved us in ‘68 to Bethlehem, Pa. where I went to college, graduated, and received my teaching degree.
In all the years I lived in the Lehigh Valley, I discovered the power an individual possesses by forming, or participating in organizations which preserve historic landmarks for future residents.
In those days, being an out-of-towner probably helped me to see the value in preserving landmarks, as “natives” apathetically sat by or considered these structures eye-sores worthy of destruction.
This was true in the 1950s through the '70s as landmarks in New York city were taken down for the sake of “progress,” or by simply being “out-dated” (Penn Station).
During the bi-centennial year, I believe there was a re-evaluation of what was worth preserving in our cities, towns and farms â€" and I think it woke people up.
As a snot-nosed college graduate who knew everything but really knew nothing about historical preservation, I got on the bandwagon and helped preserve the 1758 Sun Inn during the early '80s…
and more recently, helped stop development of seven acres of wooded mountaintop lots where a church group, blinded by zeal, had hoped to create a headquarters for their congregation.
As an American in full support of freedom of religion, I helped stop this crazy notion of bringing busloads of supporters numbering in the thousands, leveling a watershed property, covering it with macadam on a steep slope, drilling several wells and installing septic systems to deal with their waste. The real waste of course, was their potential to ruin an area zoned residential as well as the environment incapable of supporting such numbers.
By joining with neighborhood residents, we formed an organization to collectively stop that deal, attended meetings, used our creative skills from our varied professions, and successfully convinced the township of the insanity of this project. We won because we were unified â€" possessing a voice which had power â€" but only as a unit of many.
I still maintain that creating a non-profit organization, or reviving an existing local one in Flushing, Queens, to save this structure could wake up politicians of the will of their constituents. Solitary individuals are not as capable of bringing their message of value in preservation as unified groups â€" I experienced this first-hand.
Bethlehem was just awarded a license to the Sands Casinos, Inc., who will help kick in millions, along with the state, to preserve the brownfields at the Bethlehem Steel site.
This just didn’t happen by one or two concerned indiviudals writing petitions â€" it took town meetings and shouting loud enough to wake up those with vision, cash and clout, because this is what counts.
As a result, four blast furnaces will be saved, icons at a site which helped this country and its allies win two world wars.
Surely saving RKO Keith has as much value as a brownfieldâ€"
that’s evident in this, and all the other inspired responses on this website.

TomStathes
TomStathes on December 27, 2006 at 1:02 pm

Friday looks good for me and davebazooka!
We’ll all be in touch :–)

roadwarrior23249
roadwarrior23249 on December 27, 2006 at 12:20 pm

I dont know if my email is posted, its

roadwarrior23249
roadwarrior23249 on December 27, 2006 at 12:19 pm

I will post pics tonight, if time is there to do it! Ed, email me and we’ll see if we can get down there. Tom ,I didnt forget you bud, it’s just been nuts! But I’ll call you soon.

TomStathes
TomStathes on December 26, 2006 at 9:55 pm

Jeff, you make a point though. The person (or people) to save a theater like this CANNOT be a developer. It has to be a visionary, a young at heart people or group. Development, gentrification, etc is all about MONEY.
If I was independently wealthy and could afford the theatre, I don’t care if it was closed half of the time…I would preserve it just for the hell of it.

Jeffrey1955
Jeffrey1955 on December 26, 2006 at 9:44 pm

Donald Trump? Please! What landmarks has he preserved? My memory told me that Trump’s family had a hand in the demolition of Steeplechase in Coney Island; I was right. As found on the rcdb.com (rollercoaster database) website:

After Steeplechase Park closed the Tilyou family sold the land to Fred C. Trump (Donald Trump’s father). Trump had wanted to build high-rise apartments on the land, but was unable to gain the requisite planning permission. Trump then leased the land to Norman Kaufman in 1967 to use as a parking lot.

But wait — there’s more. Excerpted from “A History of The Coney Island Parachute Jump” by Seth Kaufman, at bayridge.com:

Steeplechase Park itself closed after the 1964 season, bought and razed by Fred C. Trump for housing that was never built. But the Parachute Jump survived, presumably saved by the ever increasing cost of demolition that had kept it at Coney since 1941. The Jump continued to operate until 1968, part of a group of small scale rides operated on the now nearly vacant lot.

From 1968 on, the Jump was essentially left to rust in the salt air. …Plans were prepared for its demolition. … the Coney Island Chamber of Commerce filed a proposal calling for landmark status and conversion of the tower to “A Beacon of Welcome, the Steeplechase Parachute Light.” … On July 12, 1977, the Jump was declared a city landmark. Unfortunately, the city Board of Estimate overturned the designation, concerned that preservation of structure was “a luxury we can not afford.” Threats of demolition were once again made, but a price tag of $250,000 and public outcry scuttled the idea.

… In 1988, the Parachute Jump was declared a city landmark for a second time, surely some sort of record. This time the designation stuck, but by then the structure had deteriorated even further, …

The nineties brought new threats of demolition. … Fred C.Trump, apparently intent on finishing the destruction he had started 25 years before, offered $400,000 if the Jump was torn down. But the city had no choice; the structure was a landmark and had to be preserved. Work began in early 1992. …And with its new coat of paint, fresh steel and landmark status, the Steeplechase Parachute Jump seems ready for another 25 years.

In short, the history of the Parachute Jump nearly parallels the history of the RKO Keith’s â€" and the Trump family hardly seems likely to be a champion of preservation! (Even if he can change the name to TRUMP THEATER!)

Sorry for going so far off the track, but Happy New Year to all.

JohnFitzgerald
JohnFitzgerald on December 26, 2006 at 8:25 pm

happy holiday’s to all. The politicans in queens all suck.they have no respect for any historic buildings.In brooklyn the boro president is leading the effort to save the kings, where is the queen’s boro president. in regard to saving the keith’s. with the exception of
all the wonderful posters on this web site,is anyone doing anything to save this historic site? this disgrace has been going on for over 20 years. this building must be saved.I ask someone like donald trump,please become involved. this is too important a building to lose.If we lose the keith’s we lose Queens. what a crime that would be.
bty whatever moron sold this landmark in 1986 should rot in hell.
happy new year!!!

ppjtcart
ppjtcart on December 26, 2006 at 9:20 am

I grew up in Flushing and the Keiths was one of 3 theaters my friends and I took the bus to(the others being Prospect and Parsons). A child’s ticket I recall was 50 cents and it was always a double feature. I was lucky (or unlucky) enough to get entry to the theater about 3 years ago on a chance opportunity. How sad it was to see the extent of decay, but man, the flood of memories it gave me. I’m thrilled to find this chat chain on this grand old place and to see others who appreciate not the nostalgia, but the artistry and grandour of the building.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on December 26, 2006 at 7:31 am

If Mike has the “remakes” he should have plenty of space on his photobucket account, so I’ll leave it to him to post them here along with the newer images he snapped upon his second visit to the Keith’s – the responsibilities of new parenthood permitting.

bazookadave
bazookadave on December 25, 2006 at 11:49 am

Happy Holidays to all!

I am free Wednesday and Friday and would love to get into the RKO to take some totally radical pics.

:)

NativeForestHiller
NativeForestHiller on December 24, 2006 at 10:45 pm

Thank you! Happy holidays and a prosperous 2007 to all!!!

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on December 24, 2006 at 8:46 pm

Wow. I’ve been offline for a few days and missed quite a lot! I’m so glad that you were able to get in and take some photos, Mike69… and happier still that you went back a second time with Tom. I’m looking forward to you posting images from your second expedition! Should you plan on going back for a third time sometime this week, I’d love to tag along. I have a new Nikon digital SLR that takes great photos in low lighting – I might even get my hands on a tripod for the occasion. I should be around all week, except for Wednesday. By the way, congrats on the newborn!

Warren… If you can’t share your enhanced versions of Mike’s photos due to a lack of space on your photobucket account, I have plenty of room on mine and would gladly host them – if you are interested. I already have an album dedicated to the Keith’s.

Happy Holidays to all on CT!

bobosan
bobosan on December 24, 2006 at 1:08 pm

Thanks for the info, AlAlvarez. Not exactly three classic movies! Although Night of the Creeps might refer to the people who bought the RKO Keith’s….

TomStathes
TomStathes on December 24, 2006 at 12:03 pm

All good ideas, Ken. In a perfect world, a good number of us would co-own a Jersey Loew’s type of group and slowly restore the theater on the basis of donated construction work. LJ has accomplished this and has spread their limited funding very far. Never mind full restoration, functionality could be achieved with partial preservation and restoration to start out with. Financial quotes and figures are based on what construction companies cost. The fact of the matter is that materials are not always expensive, and volunteer work is FREE. Again, the warning of countless millions needed can serve as a catalyst to make us forget about saving this theater. First and foremost, the issue is purchasing it- worry about the rest later.

KenRaniere
KenRaniere on December 24, 2006 at 11:55 am

So glad to have checked in on the continuing saga of the Keith, trying to get a sense of its present status.
One comment recently related the possibility of workers removing asbestos from the building. That notion sort of raised my hopes that perhaps the building might not be up for total demolitionâ€"why remove asbestos if you’re going to demolish a building when any airborne dust can certainly be hosed down as the building gets destroyed. Since I’m not a demolition expert, please don’t hold this against me!
After reading all the latest entries since Sept. ‘06, and discovering the “ton” of new great photos and further history shared, I still get the notion of taking all of this material (history, photography and post card/printed memorabilia, etc.) and turning it into a publication, the proceeds toward saving the Keith from potentially becoming a pile of bricks.
I just recently designed my second Civil War book within a year with a private publisher who prints books in limited runs. I wish it were possible to get permission to use all the information posted here, along with the use of the drawings and the recent photos privately taken…and add that to a story line which is basically written by all of you who have responded here so far.
There’s no guarantee how this “book” would sell, but I do know I’d buy a copy if it existed, just to relive my childhood as an RKO Keith patron and soak up the many great photos which can only be seen if I get onto this website.
The main objective with this idea of a book is to save the building from demolition with funds from the book.
This one aspect isn’t necessarily “the answer” to saving this building: other forces would have to kick in to amass further interest and appropriate funds to do the rest â€"â€" saddly, that aspect is out of my realm. But this sounding board has many respondants with talent…which raises the question â€" how do you turn talent into action?
Lastly, has anyone checked if Cinema Tresures has rights to any written or photographic material posted on its site?

Jeffrey1955
Jeffrey1955 on December 24, 2006 at 9:14 am

Apparently they booked “Running Scared” thinking it was the third part of a horror trilogy!

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on December 24, 2006 at 8:50 am

Here is what the NY Times time clock listed on the last week of August 1986, after which it disappears from those listings:

Screen 1- THE TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE II
Screen 2- NIGHT OF THE CREEPS
SCreen 3- RUNNING SCARED