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raymond commented about "Preserve Me a Seat" doc to screen in Alaska this week! on Jun 21, 2007 at 10:44 am

Artifacts, relics, and antiquities for sale to the highest bidder by a bunch of pirates and grave robbers. It must be treasure island for them. The fact of the matter is that the individual pieces are useless. Like a thumb without a hand. Mair-see boh-koo, but no thanks.

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raymond commented about "Preserve Me a Seat" doc to screen in Alaska this week! on Jun 6, 2007 at 7:04 am

Imagine residents taking broken pieces of terra cotta tiles that were going to a land fill somewhere. What scoundrels.

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raymond commented about "Preserve Me a Seat" doc to screen in Alaska this week! on Jun 1, 2007 at 3:53 am

Ask Jim Fields.

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raymond commented about DuPage Theatre Key to Downtown Lombard's Revival on Mar 28, 2007 at 5:34 am

Quotation from Challenger=(Crazy Ray)=(DuPage fiends)& =(TBA).
“Brain, I would have liked to see this theatre saved, seeing I know a little more about its history than you do. It has been well documented that I called for this group of friends to be disbanded years ago and for some other people to step up to the plate. Their egos' got to big and now they support a plan that included demolition. I have never supported this current plan, have you???”

Cry me a river. If he REALLY wanted this theater saved and wanted another group involved all he had to do was organize one. Nobody would have or could have stopped him. Instead he just complains about those that stepped up and were counted. Instead his only claim to fame for attempting to save the theater is he purchased a lemonade at a fundraiser. And that is well documented. What a big spender!! Cry me a river. We know where he comes from. He is as transparent as his post names.
He sings the song about how he wanted it saved but DID NOTHING to save it. His words are as cheap and his motives.
Mr.DuPage fiend. I have news for you. Forget your pompous speches about wanting this theater saved. Actions speak louder than words. You are a fraud.

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Mar 15, 2007 at 4:32 am

So Kurt Lentsch shut down his Lombard hate website? Will Lombard survive this tragedy? That’s just terrible! Cry me a river! I suggest he create a new website. He should call it Lombard Fact Check.Org. Au contraire! How silly of me. Kurt Lentsch doesn’t care about facts.

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Feb 22, 2007 at 4:05 am

Political manifesto. Au contraire.
You continually use the word “ politics” as your modus-operandi to argue your case. Unfortunately your posts boast of politics. Since I do not know D.D. I don’t know with certainty if he holds political office or if he is a candidate. His posts do not suggest that he is.
Has Robert Biddle entered his name as a political candidate? Not that I am aware of.
Politics. That’s other peoples agenda.
As you are aware the village has owned the theater and adjacent property since year 2000. It has been at the center of public debate by the elected officers since. That is the only political connection that I am aware of.
Fortunately Lombard’s elected officers have declared the DuPage Theater a key component to to the revival of Lombard’s downtown district. I refer you to this web link.
http://cinematreasures.org/news/16015_0_1_10_C/

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raymond commented about DuPage Theatre Key to Downtown Lombard's Revival on Feb 20, 2007 at 7:40 am

Finally! After seven years. It’s not about how many.
It’s about how few.

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Feb 7, 2007 at 6:14 am

My political ramblings? Au contraire.
Politics is not my agenda. Politics? That’s somebody elses agenda!
After reading the previous posts, you were the only poster that mentioned “politics."
I rebutted your post because you are wrong. D.D. is correct about those opposed to the theater wanted and supported a new library on the theater property. I even provided the web address to prove my statement. www.LombardLAMP.org
The library board has shown interest in acquiring the theater property for a new library. That is also a fact.
The fact that the library board hasn’t pursued yet another referendum may be because they are aware that any referendum questions asking for a tax increases would be defeated again.
Whatever the reason,that’s somebody elses fight!

Your comment: “That’s right KF supports a plan that included the demolition of the theatre which was on the NAtional list of Historic place."
Let’s set the record straight again. I defend the position that saves as many historical elements of the the original structure as possible.

What is your position about the demolition of a theater which was on the national list of historic places?

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Feb 5, 2007 at 4:50 am

“Misinformation?” Oh that’s a great line coming from you.
Cry me a river. Will you?

Well foks lets set the record straight.

1- The Library Board held two referenda at the March 16, 2004, primary election. (By law, they can only hold a referendum during the time of a regularly scheduled election.) One question was to ask voter approval to raise taxes to sell $23,500,000 in bonds to pay for the building. This covers the construction cost, furniture and equipment, fees, surveys, and reimbursement for purchase of the property next door. Using 2003 figures and loan rates, this would have cost the owner of a $200,000 market value home an additional $100 per year for a 20 year loan, using December 2003 interest rates.

2- A second referendum question asked voters for approval for a permanent tax increase for operations, raising the maximum allowable tax rate from the current 25 cents per $100 equalized assessed valuation, to 31 cents. This would fund costs necessary for a larger building, including maintenance, utilities, and staffing. It would cost the owner of a $200,000 market value home an additional $38 per year, based on a 2002 tax bill.

A citizen’s committee worked very hard to help with the referendum. The referenda both failed, however. The first question results, for the general obligation bonds ($23,500,000), was:

YES: 4,072 (44.05%)
NO: 5,173 (55.95%)

For the increase in operating tax rate (6 cents per $100 EAV), results were.

YES: 3,858 (41.67%)
NO: 5,393 (58.33%)

Lack of awareness is not the reason for the referendum failure. Voters were well aware of the expansion and the referendum (86%). In fact, more people were aware of the Library plan, and held an opinion about it, than any other village issue.

Major reasons for the referendum failure from those who said they would vote “yes” were the cost of temporary quarters and the scale of the proposed expansion, representing about 30% of the “yes” voters. From the “no” voters, major concerns were the sheer cost and “unacceptable parts of the plan”, which could mean anything from parking to architectural design issues. The scale of the plan was not as much an issue for them.

Voters who supported the referendum agreed that the expansion was necessary, and 84% agreed to increased taxes. However, some objected to the cost of temporary quarters during construction, the size of the expansion, and overall cost.

3- To confirm numerous earlier verbal discussions between the Library and various Village staff, in June, 2005, the Library Board notified the Village Board in writing of its desire to be informed of available properties in the downtown area for a new library, including but not limited to the DuPage Theater site.

4- He further says “ I believe the library’s last study showed an increase in users, which is why they needed a new library.”

Then he says “Please note that I am not a new library supporter, that is somebody elses fight, but I think people should know the truth."
He has supported and defended a library at the theater property site for 6 years.
In year 2004 a website was created specifically to gather public support for a new library on the theater property.
In the past 3 years there hasn’t been 800 viewers.
www.LombardLAMP.org

Crazy Ray. Cry me a river!

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Jan 10, 2007 at 5:31 am

We have a new corporate sponsor that will provide all of our baking needs. Your baking services will not be required whatsover.
Sara Lee does it better! Nobody does it like Sara Lee! Nobody doesn’t like Sara Lee!
Consider this your kiss off. Your FIRED!

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Jan 5, 2007 at 5:17 am

Crazy Ray:
Do you live in the Lilactown? You seem to be very hateful towards some of the men that are fighting for what they believe is good for our community. We have had a very long and biter struggle over our now demolished theater. What would you like to see done with the land now that it is available?
posted by True Class on Jan 2, 2007 at 9:22pm

Crazy Ray:
“If you don’t support this plan for demolition of the auditorium and restoration of the lobby and facade for adaptive reuse in a black box with mixed use condos and retail then what do you support?"
posted by K.F. on Dec 28, 2006 at 1:25pm

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Jan 5, 2007 at 5:08 am

I (we) promised you nothing. Come to the metting next week and we will give you your money back. Bring your receipts. Or I can send one of our volunteers to your home to remibursh you for your out of pocket costs.

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Jan 4, 2007 at 5:12 am

All of us at theater central are so excited about 2007. We have had so many thespians, musicians, painters , and artisans, ect. who want to use the (yours and ours) new arts center. We are encouraged beyond words.
We are so grateful to all of the volunteers that devoted so much time, energy, and money into this endeavor.
Hold off on your baking for the time being. We will give you the word then you can start your baking. There will be plenty of opportunities for that after the new arts center is completed.
We encourage you the sign yourself into our volunteer program.
Also your family, friends, and neighbors. As I mentioned before they can obtain membership at www.dupagetheatre.net
If you are retired and on a fixed income we understand budgetary concerns may inhibit your membership fee. Please feel free to volunteer your time. Your time could be our time. The spirit giving back will help keep you young.

Our next meeting will be next week. Please feel free to visit and share your thoughts and ideas.

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Jan 3, 2007 at 8:25 am

We have sufficient funds to restore the marquee. We sponsored a huge fundraiser concert featuring the Ides of March rock group.The group donated their time to this worthy cause. It was a huge success and the profits are now in T BILLS earning 18%
My records show that you are not a member. You may have forgotten to renew your membership? If you want you can renew your membership on line a
www.dupagetheatre.net
Or one of our fine volunteers can arrange to pick up your membership renewal at your home. The option is yours. Which do you prefer?

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Jan 2, 2007 at 2:02 pm

Lady? I can’t resist informing you that your posts are very incoherent. What does fruitcakes, peach cobbler and the rest of your dribble concern the readers here? This is a theater preservation website. Kindly treat it as such. I have reviewed your previous posts. It may be to your advantage to practice what you preach.
Please read your previous post and act wisely.

Quote: From True Class:

“I think you need to move on to the restoration topic. The people on this site don’t deserve this. Look at the posts above. We are not representing Lombard very well.
In fairness, I did your google search and over 500 hundred responses came up. There are people in 5 different states with that same name.

Please let these people have their website back. “
posted by True Class on Oct 19, 2005 at 5:50am

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Dec 29, 2006 at 3:00 pm

“Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears.
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.”

My only exposure to the dark ages is from your posts. Fruitcakes and the dark ages. How enlightened I am?
What does national heritage matter. Bach , Handel , Strauss were German. Hitler was German.
Cry me a river. Will you. Try and make sense instead of nonsense.

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Dec 29, 2006 at 5:51 am

Praise Ceasar! Praise Ceasar !
My neighbor has informed me that the building will be restored and the facade will be restored. Praise Ceasar! My neighbor has never been wrong.
It is not my intention to attack Ceasar. Au contraire! I come here to praise Ceasar. Praise Ceasar! PRAISE CEASAR!

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Dec 28, 2006 at 3:20 pm

I attacked you? Nonsense. Here it is again.
Blame it on the previous owner? Oh that’s a good one. Cry me a river. Will you? How about the present owner? Why do you want to play the blame game? There is plenty of blame to go around.
Is that the message TheaterBuff1 is trying to say? It could be."

Lies? How about this one? “[The village] has spent $560,000 and five years to see if this was doable. And after that, what we have is an unsafe, crumbling demolition site."
posted by CrazyRay on Sep 6, 2005 at 6:44am

Attacks? How about this one. TheaterBuff1,
Your unwarranted comment was completely uncalled for:
“But the other extreme was that it was located in an area — Lombard, Illinois — where the citizenry are so culturally depraved that none of that registered."
Your name should be "Theatre buffoon”. It shows you know very little of this theatre or the town."

How about this one? Theatre Buffoon,
Blame it on the previous owner, he let it fall into such disrepair. Were we supposed to spend upwards of $12 million of our tax money to save it? By your posts it shows you have no class or intelligence.
Please tell us how much you donated?
Its easy to hide somewhere and throw stones, but (according to you) if you did not donate then you are “culturally depraved"
posted by CrazyRay on Dec 14, 2006 at 6:28am

So does that mean you aren’t culturally depraved because you purchased a lemonade at a fundraiser?

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Dec 28, 2006 at 8:25 am

I do not desire to have the last word. Au contraire!
As I have stated before I reserve the right to respond. Just as you respond.
I know all too well of the neglect by the previous owners. I also know of the neglect by the current owner. I do believe my previous posts reflect that.

Why do you continue to engage in personal attacks? What purpose is served with them?

I would like your input on my question to you from a previous post.

“If you don’t support this plan for demolition of the auditorium and restoration of the lobby and facade for adaptive reuse in a black box with mixed use condos and retail then what do you support?”

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Dec 28, 2006 at 7:38 am

Just more of the same sour grapes. Cry me a river! Will you?

Here is a comment from a resident who is also a very prominent elected official. When asked about the demolition of the auditorium he said,
“The building has been under the village’s control for a decade, and nothing was done,” Tross said. “This shows the village board is moving expeditiously to get things done.”

Again you support my theory that your posts are sour grapes.

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Dec 27, 2006 at 6:02 am

You donated money? After reviewing your posts you confess to purchasing a lemonade at a fundraiser. Now you want your money back.
Hey big spender!
Did you become active in the group?
Au contraire! Your double edged sword is a fact.
Yes. I support this plan. My position of support for this plan as it exists is quite clear.
For me to restate my position of support for this plan would just be be redundant.
Based on your fuzzy logic exactly what is your position on this plan.
If you don’t support this plan for demolition of the auditorium and restoration of the lobby and facade for adaptive reuse in a black box with mixed use condos and retail then what do you support?

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Dec 26, 2006 at 5:11 am

Oh that’s another real good one. Am I now to presume you supported preservation? If you haven’t supported demolition then what have you ever , EVER done to stop it? If you supported preservation then what have you ever, EVER done to preserve it? If you didn’t do anything to stop the demolition then you must have supported the demolition.
Your double edged sword has you imprisoned within your own words.

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Dec 26, 2006 at 3:32 am

More sour grapes. This website is about preservation and is not about politics. Oh that’s a real good one. Especially from you?
It’s not about fruitcakes and the mindless ramblings of the poster above either. If you are so concerned about preservation comments then why do you post here? From what I have read and reviewed , you are certainly not the poster child for preservation.
Politics originated with the fruitcake poster. The origin of the politics was not mine. So I suggest you direct your anger at the mindless ramblings of the fruitcake person. However I do reserve right to respond.
As I have stated previously cry me a river is a phrase used to express an I don’t care attitude to a crying moaning person’s opinion of what the facts are. Especially when they are wrong.
Cry me a river. Will you?

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Dec 22, 2006 at 1:06 pm

Oh that’s another real good one. Cry me a river. Will you?
Since you continue to swat flies. According to my neighbor the count will be as predicted. 4-2 for the development. Those who will oppose are the same as before. As was predicted. Your comments are sour grapes. Cry me a river.

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raymond commented about Demolition of DuPage Theatre gets underway on Dec 21, 2006 at 8:46 am

Oh that’s a good one. Considering there will not be any discussions or votes taken until late January and Feburary of 2007.
Sour grapes and compound lies. The ingredents for vinegar.
Cry me a river.Will you?