in terms of being in continual operation(which includes
being closed for renovations) since the day it opened isn’t
this the oldest movie theater in NYC?
this is a question for people who saw Dumbo at this theater
this past weekend. I don’t like this new trend in dark films
meaning the visuals not the dramatic tone. I saw the film
at the 19th East and found the film as dark as Solo: A Stars
Story and Captain Marvel. I don’t get it. they spend millions
on a film and can’t afford proper lighting? even the scenes
in Dumbo which took place during the day were unusually dark.
is my assumption correct that large movie theaters such
as the Roxy(or the Fox in San Francisco) probably played as
many B or even C movies as they played A movies?
thank you to my fellow posters for their replies to the
darkness issue I started. a question- is it remotely
possible that some directors consciously shot scenes that
are under lit to be artsy?
thanks to stevenj for your thoughts on the darkness issue.
I saw Boy Erased at this theater last Nov. and was disappointed
that a few scenes were rather under lit. so last month when
the Blu-ray came out I bought and guess what? the scenes I had
the dimly lit issue with were the same way on the Blu-ray.
thanks for your replies about the darkness issue. so is
stevenj saying that CM wasn’t filmed that dark its just how
the Orpheum was screening it? I ask the question again
since the Orpheum manager said in the case of “Solo” that
that was the way the film was shot and not a result of their
screening of it.
in terms of ridethectrain’s comment. as I said my screening
of CM at the Orpheum was way to dark in spots to the point
in a few scenes you couldn’t see exactly what was happening.
so is ridethectrain’s comment to infer that the projectionist
at the Orpheum was incorrectly screening the film? I had the
same problem at the screening I attended last Spring of
Solo-A Star Wars Story. I questioned the manager and he said
it was the film not the way they were showing it.
to Mike’s 3/12 comment. what would have been the point
of posting the Captain Marvel darkness question on the
Orpheum’s page if I was asking moviegoers at this theater
what their experience was?
a two part question for anyone who saw Captain Marvel
at this theater this past weekend. i saw the film at
the 12p.m. screening at the Loews Orpheum. was your
movie quite dark? half the time i couldn’t see what
was happening. and second how full was your auditorium?
the 12p.m. screening at the Orpheum was almost empty.
thanks to everyone for replying to my post about roadshow
films and their tweaking whether in their original roadshow
or their general release. now I knew the currently
available dvds of The Alamo, Hawaii and The Greatest Story
Ever Told were the general release cut. but I was unaware
that the Blu-ray disc of Judgement at Nurenburg was not
the roadshow cut. how much was cut out?
I thank Cinema70 for a detailed reply. maybe the term
tweaked was not used in the 60s and 70s when roadshow films
were shortened but its certainly a term I would use today.
the edit of Cleopatra that played neighborhood theaters
in NYC was the 3hr. 15mins.. but the original cut of the
film which opened at this theater June of 1963 was 4 hrs.
so I’m thankful that Fox kept the excised 45mins. but
apparently United Artist didn’t think it was necessary to
keep the trims from The Greatest Ever Told or Its A Mad
Mad Mad Mad. the currently available Blu-ray disc of TGSET
is 3hrs. 19mins. being a fan of the film it would be nice
to see what the original roadshow cut of 3hrs. 45mins.
contained. likewise when UA trimmed IAMMMMW from its
roadshow cut of 3hrs, 12 mins. to 2hrs. 42mins. for the
general release they apparently felt no needs to save the
trims. in other words some studios were just better at
keeping the trims from the original roadshow prints than
others.
as always thank you for your many informative replies who’ve
posted to my many queries. another thought or two about
roadshows and tweaking.
*I still find it bizarre that films were tweaked while
still in their roadshow runs. hey show biz is strange.
but at least Fox keep the trims from the original 4hr.
New York premiere cut. on Blu-ray Cleopatra defines
!!!WOW!!!. on the other side United Artists didn’t have
the archival feelings Fox did since the trims from the
initial roadshow rubs of IAMMMMW and The Greatest Story
Ever Told are probably lost forever.
*also in a previous note I mentioned after their roadshow
runs films would play a 1st run theater in Manhattan on
a continuous performance with say 4 shows a day by cutting
the overture, the intermission, the entr'acte and the
exit music. then depending on the film’s length the film
itself would be tweaked before it played neighborhood
theaters around NYC. this is where my question comes in-
am I correct in my info that in the 3 level release pattern
described The Sound Of Music was one of the very few
roadshow films that was never tweaked?
I thank my fellow moviegoers for their replies but my
question wasn’t quite answered. I am well aware that many
roadshow films depending on how long they were got tweaked
before they hit neighborhood theaters in NYC. but I never
understood why some roadshow films were tweaked when they
were still in their 2 performance a day roadshow engagements.
i’m dating myself but i fondly remember the heyday of
reserved seat engagements. to which a question- depending
on how long the film was after it had exhausted its first
run in Manhattan it would be tweaked before playing in
neighborhood theaters around NYC. but what was the point
of tweaking a film when it was still in its 2 show a day
roadshow engagement?
while the current blu-ray disc is A+ in both its picture
image and audio tracks i would have loved to see it
projected in Todd-AO on the huge curved screen.
while the HD transfer on the recently released Blu-ray makes
the film come alive I wish I had seen it in its original
projection at the Rivoli in Dec. 1926.
on the photo page is an ad for the World Premiere
opening of 2001: A Space Odyssey. right above it is'
an ad for the roadshow engagement of Camelot at the
Warner. said theater was fully renovated but no longer
shows films. would anyone know the last big studio
film to play an exclusive engagement here?
to markp thanks for your reply of 12/27. I am assuming that
when a film’s release date is announced its basically shot
edited and in the can. for instance the Summer Movie section
which the NY Times had the first Sun. in May has Under the
Silver Lake opening the last week of June. in fact when i saw
Angels in America Andrew Garfield( who i’m a big fan of)
confirmed the film was opening the last week of June. but
it was pulled from release and yet to open in Dec. the
Fall Movie preview section in the Sun. N Y Times the 2nd
Sun. in Sept. stated as much. but the film never opened.
people who go see blockbuster/super hero films 2 to 3 tend
not to see art house films. so what happened to UTSL?
continually shifting release dates is NEVER a good sign.
to Mike(saps) you have a point but I wouldn’t have asked
the question again if someone had definitively answered it
the 1st time I asked it- was Hammerstein’s Victoria
“demolished” or not?
in terms of davepring’s post. from a reliable source
I read that the real reason Sinatra left the filming
of Carousel was not because for the “if I’m shooting
2 films I want be paid twice” reason. it turns out his
paramour at the time Ava Gardner was shooting in Europe
and she sent him a note stating that if he didn’t get
the set asap she would have an affair with her co-star.
Hello-
in terms of being in continual operation(which includes being closed for renovations) since the day it opened isn’t this the oldest movie theater in NYC?
Hello-
this is a question for people who saw Dumbo at this theater this past weekend. I don’t like this new trend in dark films meaning the visuals not the dramatic tone. I saw the film at the 19th East and found the film as dark as Solo: A Stars Story and Captain Marvel. I don’t get it. they spend millions on a film and can’t afford proper lighting? even the scenes in Dumbo which took place during the day were unusually dark.
Hello-
what changes if any are they doing to the theater’s
auditorium?
Hello-
is my assumption correct that large movie theaters such as the Roxy(or the Fox in San Francisco) probably played as many B or even C movies as they played A movies?
Hello-
thank you to my fellow posters for their replies to the darkness issue I started. a question- is it remotely possible that some directors consciously shot scenes that are under lit to be artsy?
Hello-
thanks to stevenj for your thoughts on the darkness issue. I saw Boy Erased at this theater last Nov. and was disappointed that a few scenes were rather under lit. so last month when the Blu-ray came out I bought and guess what? the scenes I had the dimly lit issue with were the same way on the Blu-ray.
Hello-
thanks for your replies about the darkness issue. so is stevenj saying that CM wasn’t filmed that dark its just how the Orpheum was screening it? I ask the question again since the Orpheum manager said in the case of “Solo” that that was the way the film was shot and not a result of their screening of it.
Hello-
in terms of ridethectrain’s comment. as I said my screening of CM at the Orpheum was way to dark in spots to the point in a few scenes you couldn’t see exactly what was happening. so is ridethectrain’s comment to infer that the projectionist at the Orpheum was incorrectly screening the film? I had the same problem at the screening I attended last Spring of Solo-A Star Wars Story. I questioned the manager and he said it was the film not the way they were showing it.
Hello-
to Mike’s 3/12 comment. what would have been the point of posting the Captain Marvel darkness question on the Orpheum’s page if I was asking moviegoers at this theater what their experience was?
Hello-
a two part question for anyone who saw Captain Marvel at this theater this past weekend. i saw the film at the 12p.m. screening at the Loews Orpheum. was your movie quite dark? half the time i couldn’t see what was happening. and second how full was your auditorium? the 12p.m. screening at the Orpheum was almost empty.
Hello-
thanks to everyone for replying to my post about roadshow films and their tweaking whether in their original roadshow or their general release. now I knew the currently available dvds of The Alamo, Hawaii and The Greatest Story Ever Told were the general release cut. but I was unaware that the Blu-ray disc of Judgement at Nurenburg was not the roadshow cut. how much was cut out?
Hello-
I thank Cinema70 for a detailed reply. maybe the term tweaked was not used in the 60s and 70s when roadshow films were shortened but its certainly a term I would use today. the edit of Cleopatra that played neighborhood theaters in NYC was the 3hr. 15mins.. but the original cut of the film which opened at this theater June of 1963 was 4 hrs. so I’m thankful that Fox kept the excised 45mins. but apparently United Artist didn’t think it was necessary to keep the trims from The Greatest Ever Told or Its A Mad Mad Mad Mad. the currently available Blu-ray disc of TGSET is 3hrs. 19mins. being a fan of the film it would be nice to see what the original roadshow cut of 3hrs. 45mins. contained. likewise when UA trimmed IAMMMMW from its roadshow cut of 3hrs, 12 mins. to 2hrs. 42mins. for the general release they apparently felt no needs to save the trims. in other words some studios were just better at keeping the trims from the original roadshow prints than others.
to Al A.–
as always thank you for your many informative replies who’ve posted to my many queries. another thought or two about roadshows and tweaking.
*I still find it bizarre that films were tweaked while still in their roadshow runs. hey show biz is strange. but at least Fox keep the trims from the original 4hr. New York premiere cut. on Blu-ray Cleopatra defines !!!WOW!!!. on the other side United Artists didn’t have the archival feelings Fox did since the trims from the initial roadshow rubs of IAMMMMW and The Greatest Story Ever Told are probably lost forever.
*also in a previous note I mentioned after their roadshow runs films would play a 1st run theater in Manhattan on a continuous performance with say 4 shows a day by cutting the overture, the intermission, the entr'acte and the exit music. then depending on the film’s length the film itself would be tweaked before it played neighborhood theaters around NYC. this is where my question comes in- am I correct in my info that in the 3 level release pattern described The Sound Of Music was one of the very few roadshow films that was never tweaked?
Hello-
I thank my fellow moviegoers for their replies but my question wasn’t quite answered. I am well aware that many roadshow films depending on how long they were got tweaked before they hit neighborhood theaters in NYC. but I never understood why some roadshow films were tweaked when they were still in their 2 performance a day roadshow engagements.
Hello-
i’m dating myself but i fondly remember the heyday of reserved seat engagements. to which a question- depending on how long the film was after it had exhausted its first run in Manhattan it would be tweaked before playing in neighborhood theaters around NYC. but what was the point of tweaking a film when it was still in its 2 show a day roadshow engagement?
Hello-
while the current blu-ray disc is A+ in both its picture image and audio tracks i would have loved to see it projected in Todd-AO on the huge curved screen.
Hello-
while the HD transfer on the recently released Blu-ray makes the film come alive I wish I had seen it in its original projection at the Rivoli in Dec. 1926.
Hello-
does anyone know what has become of The Current War starring Benedict Cumberbatch which was supposed to get released the Fall of 2017?
Hello-
on the photo page is an ad for the World Premiere opening of 2001: A Space Odyssey. right above it is' an ad for the roadshow engagement of Camelot at the Warner. said theater was fully renovated but no longer shows films. would anyone know the last big studio film to play an exclusive engagement here?
Hello-
to markp thanks for your reply of 12/27. I am assuming that when a film’s release date is announced its basically shot edited and in the can. for instance the Summer Movie section which the NY Times had the first Sun. in May has Under the Silver Lake opening the last week of June. in fact when i saw Angels in America Andrew Garfield( who i’m a big fan of) confirmed the film was opening the last week of June. but it was pulled from release and yet to open in Dec. the Fall Movie preview section in the Sun. N Y Times the 2nd Sun. in Sept. stated as much. but the film never opened. people who go see blockbuster/super hero films 2 to 3 tend not to see art house films. so what happened to UTSL? continually shifting release dates is NEVER a good sign.
Hello-
thanks for the reply. what I meant to ask was how different a moviegoing experience is the Dolby Cinema from the Loews Auditorium?
Hello-
to Mike(saps) you have a point but I wouldn’t have asked the question again if someone had definitively answered it the 1st time I asked it- was Hammerstein’s Victoria “demolished” or not?
Hello-
I would greatly appreciate it if anyone has additional info to answer my question of 9/3/12. thanks
Hello-
i haven’t had the chance to see a film in the new Dolby Cinema
yet. to which just how different is it from its former life
as the Loews Auditorium?
Hello-
in terms of davepring’s post. from a reliable source I read that the real reason Sinatra left the filming of Carousel was not because for the “if I’m shooting 2 films I want be paid twice” reason. it turns out his paramour at the time Ava Gardner was shooting in Europe and she sent him a note stating that if he didn’t get the set asap she would have an affair with her co-star.