Loew's Valencia Theatre

165-11 Jamaica Avenue,
Jamaica, NY 11432

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Bway
Bway on September 21, 2004 at 12:08 pm

Oh, and one more thing. Did anyone ever find out whether the Valencia is still capable of playing movies like the 175th St Theater is? That one, as mentioned above, is also a church now, very similar in style, but they rent it out occasionally for movies, and other functions – or has the Valencia only held church services for the last few decades?

Bway
Bway on September 21, 2004 at 12:05 pm

What was the original paintjob on the ceiling? I assume there were murals or clouds painted there originally? That’s the only thing they seemed to paint one color now! Anyone know of any vintage photos of the Valencia?
Just to add, of course the Valencia’s main auditorium was never meant to be lit up as bright as it is needed to be lit up for a church. The original colors had to be much more subdued (which will be hard to tell from black and white vintage photos).

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on September 21, 2004 at 12:00 pm

Yes, that is gaudy, but I’m glad it’s so well preserved !

Thanks for the link !

BobFurmanek
BobFurmanek on September 21, 2004 at 11:59 am

Gaudy is an understatement!

It looks like they purchased every color in the book and just went wild.

Bway
Bway on September 21, 2004 at 11:56 am

Well, I guess we should be happy it’s being maintained, but wow, it is a bit gaudy with that paintjob. Thanks for the link. Here’s a direct url to it:
http://www.cinematour.com/tour.php?db=us&id=9940

EMarkisch
EMarkisch on September 21, 2004 at 11:08 am

Further to Warren’s above “colorful” description of the paint job at the Valencia, one can go to the Valencia page at the Cinema Tour website to witness what the gypsies run amok have created. Also the bizarre hanging of a chandelier from the sky to brighten things up!.

Bway
Bway on September 21, 2004 at 8:24 am

I had never been in the Valencia when it was still a theater (nor as a church either), but when I passed by once on the side street, and the “emergency” exit doors were open once, I took a peak inside. The way it is painted it appears as if you almost need sunglasses to sit in that theater. It was a bit overwhelming and bright. Don’t get me wrong, I am glad that the theater is being maintained, even if not a theater anymore, but they sure used some bright and shiny colors when they last repainted it!

JimRankin
JimRankin on September 21, 2004 at 6:41 am

Oops! That should be LOEW’S RICHMOND, and the CARPENTER CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS ( /theaters/211/ ).

JimRankin
JimRankin on September 21, 2004 at 6:31 am

John Eberson was known for some vivid colorations as seen in many of his theatres and as brought out in the article “Fancy Dress” in the Oct. 1984 issue of INTERIOR DESIGN magazine where a lengthy article and ten color photos of his LOWE’S in Richmond Virginia (now the Virginia Center for the Performing Arts). In the final paragraph of the article, the restoration architect, Fred Cox, is quoted as saying: “During the restoration there were times that we were a little worried we’d end up with something vulgar, especially as we got down to the original layers of paint and discovered what an eccentric colorist Eberson was. But a funny thing happened as we applied the finishing touches to the interior — it seemed to crystallize, become whole and complete. That was Eberson’s vision.” As was pointed out in the 1930 book AMERICAN THEATRES OF TODAY, the colors used often had to be far more vivid than normal due to the often subdued lighting coming from amber or rose colored lights. We today are used to much higher light levels, but too high a light level in a restoration can make the colors look garish and destroy the subtle ambience designed by the architect. These palaces were to be ‘carriages’ to lands of fantasy, after all, not the duplication of a living room.

RobertR
RobertR on September 20, 2004 at 8:47 am

Warren
Could you tell us what it’s like now?

ocullenpete
ocullenpete on September 19, 2004 at 5:21 pm

HI BDWAY, THANKS FOR THE INFO. ON THE DEMISE OF THE ELEVATED LINE IN FRONT OF THE VALENCIA THEATER. ARE THE PRESENT COLORS IN THE LOBBY AND AUDITORIUM THE COLORS THAT WERE USED BEFORE IT BECAME A CHURCH? I RECENTLY VISITED THE CHURCH AND FOUND IT TO BE WELL MAINTAINED AND CARED FOR.PETE CULLEN

Bway
Bway on September 15, 2004 at 5:18 am

Just to add about the el, the last regular passenger train ran on the eastern end of the Jamaica el on September 11th, 1977. A fan trip then ran one last time to the then abandoned stations on the 12th….and then it was over.

RobertR
RobertR on September 14, 2004 at 8:48 pm

The Long Island Press for 4/28/58 has an ad advertising the 4th smash week of “Ten Commandments” at the Valencia. COMPLETE, INTACT, NOTHING CUT BUT THE PRICE. The showtimes Sunday through Friday were 2pm and 8pm. On Saturday 10am, 230pm and 8pm. Tickets were on sale in advance for all future shows. Children are advertised as 60 cents at all times, and the management will give special consideration to theatre parties. The phone number was REpublic 9-8200. I wish I could go back and see that classic under the Valencias stars and clouds.

ocullenpete
ocullenpete on September 12, 2004 at 4:45 pm

I WAS WONDERING IF WARREN OR OTHERS HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THE EL SUBWAY LINE IN FRONT OF THE THEATER ON JAMAICA AVE WAS TORN DOWN?

Bway
Bway on August 26, 2004 at 12:13 pm

Wow, I just checked out the 175th St theatr page. What a spectacular theater, and lovingly preserved throgh the church! Theaters lend themselves very well to conversion to churches, as they do the least harm to the integrity of the theaters.
This particular theater at 175th St actually rents the theater out for movies, etc! Check out he 175th St section of the site:
/theaters/44/

The Valencia (Tabernacle of Prayer) should do the same.

theatrefan
theatrefan on August 26, 2004 at 11:17 am

Is this theatre still capable of showing movies like the 175th Street? or did Loew’s take out all the projection equipment when they donated it to the Tabernacle of Prayer in the late 70’s?

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on August 26, 2004 at 7:36 am

Yes, exactly, “Thunder Bay” was the first (after RCMH showed “Shane” on its flat “Panoramic” screen, actually its old Magnascope screen), and a big event at the State in May ‘53. (There’s an article on its installation in Theatre Catalogue, ca. summer '53.) The Capitol might have inaugurated its new screen with “Battle Circus” a week or so later. Then, a week after that, MGM opened “Julius Caesar” at the Booth on a reserved-seat run. The nabes followed one-by-one throughout the summer. The newspaper ads for the Loew’s circuit marked a check next to each theater that had a new screen, and a double-check next to each that had stereophonic sound. I followed the newspapers every day to see which had what. Every two or three days a new check-mark would crop up, implying that it took at least that long to get the work done. And the trail seemed to move from neighborhood to neighborhood in each borough, implying that each territory had its roving squad of installers. One of the last to get fitted was Loew’s Bay Ridge, a subsequent-run house, with (I believe) “The Band Wagon” in October or so. I then wondered what the installers did for work after that.

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on August 23, 2004 at 10:45 am

That was an exciting time in Summer ’53 when theaters were installing wide screens. As an eleven-year-old, I wondered how managers could do it without interrupting screenings. To replace a flat 15x20 sheet with a panel-curved 20x40 framed by movable masks to accommodate CinemaScope (which wasn’t available until the following winter!) must have invited a lot of chaos. I imagine that from midnight until morning, roving bands of workers moved from theater to theater in a given circuit until each house was equipped. Did it take two or three nights to set up the new screen behind the old one, and then strike the latter when the work was done? But how a new screen be set up behind the old one while the original sound-speakers were still in place? Stereophonic sound installation must have required an additional step afterwards, no? All of this without missing a single frame from any show! At my local RKO nabe, the Dyker, I remember seeing on the old screen “Titanic” (the Negulesco one, with “Destination Gobi” as co-feature, another example of a second-billing that topped the first), while hearing the sounds of hammering and sawing behind the proscenium. A few inches of backstage light shone out beneath the bottom mask. When I returned to the theater a few days later to see “The Maze” (a b&w 3D schlocker), the miracle-mirror wide screen was up and running, but low-grade and disappointing since I’d hoped for something mammoth, on the scale of Cinerama. For my Loew’s nabe, the Alpine, I should address questions on that site to someone who might know how the unique design of that house (no stage, no conventional proscenium) created special problems for hanging a wide screen. If memory serves, that theater installed a temporary one, fairly hulking and squarish, which it replaced scant months later with a wonderfully large, elegantly proportioned, and amazingly seamless one.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on August 19, 2004 at 1:59 pm

Jane Russell, who starred in “The Outlaw”, as well ?

I’ve always thought of Alison Hayes, star of “Attack Of The Fifty Foot Woman”, as a cut-rate Jane Russell. Both dark-haired, pouty, buxom.

RobertR
RobertR on August 19, 2004 at 1:41 pm

I thought of the slogan on the one sheet of The French Line “J.R. in 3-D, need we say more”? Miss Russell was made for that process for sure.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on August 19, 2004 at 1:01 pm

I’m reminded of 1953’s “House Of Wax”, also in 3-D, with the ball of the hawker’s paddle, ball and elastic cord made to apparently fly into the face of the audience. I’m also reminded of Hazel Court almost popping out of the top of her dress in “The Raven”.

Perhaps “When Worlds Collide” should have been done in 3-D, with Arlene Dahl’s heaving bosoms as planets Xyra and Bellus hurtling towards Earth !

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on August 18, 2004 at 2:18 pm

O, and “Strategic Air Command” with “Moonfleet”: a good example of how a second feature could sometimes tower over the top billing (though Anthony Mann has his fans, as many currently at Lincoln Center will surely attest).

BoxOfficeBill
BoxOfficeBill on August 18, 2004 at 2:11 pm

That’s a wonderful list of double features—I’d forgotten most of the second-billings. Did “Member of the Wedding” accompany “On the Waterfront” the first time around? or was it a re-issue for both? (I remember seeing “Waterfront” at the B'klyn Fox on New Year’s Eve ‘54, but definitely not with “Member”; sometimes Loew’s changed the second feature after the main attraction left the Fox or B'klyn Paramount.) And “Fear Strikes Out” was a pretty classy (though incongruous) accompaniment to “Funny Face” (I remember the latter as the Easter show at RCMH in '57—sublime!) As a Brooklyn kid, I never visited the Valencia, not even after I grew my own wings thanks to subway tokens. I definitely missed out on something good.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on August 18, 2004 at 1:50 pm

Warren, what about “The Ten Commandments”(1956) ?