Radio City Music Hall

1260 6th Avenue,
New York, NY 10020

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Ed Solero
Ed Solero on July 8, 2011 at 9:24 pm

I’m sure nothing that was done to the Music Hall for the Cirque du Soleil show is permanent. The alterations were probably overseen with a great deal of attention to detail and meticulous planning for eventual restoration, once the contract for “Zarkana” runs its course. When David Letterman took over the Ed Sullivan Theatre for the Late Show, they did extensive modifications to the auditorium and took great care to box-up and store pieces of stained glass and other delicate ornamentation so that the Landmark-protected house could be restored once the production vacates the facility. Consider that Letterman is TRULY a long-term tenant at the Ed Sullivan and how much more significant a structure Radio City Music Hall is – not just for the city but the entire country.

rcdt55b
rcdt55b on July 8, 2011 at 10:42 am

I may be wrong but I think they are contracted for a few years from what I remember. Email me when you get a chance.

Vito
Vito on July 8, 2011 at 10:28 am

Thanks redt55 It just seems looking at the pictures that the changes to the proscenium were minor and not enough to affect the screen size but I guess looks are deceving. Any idea if Cirque du Soleil will return next summer?

rcdt55b
rcdt55b on July 8, 2011 at 9:49 am

Vito, there definitely are changes to the Christmas show this year. The 3-D opening will remain the same though. The change to the size of the screen is in fact due to the mods made to the proscenium.

Vito
Vito on July 3, 2011 at 1:02 am

I added the Cirque du Soleil photos to the photo section of RCMH

Vito
Vito on July 3, 2011 at 12:54 am

Sorry apperently I do not know how to post pictures or video what I just posted did not work proprly. perhaps someone can help with that

Vito
Vito on July 3, 2011 at 12:51 am

NY I did a review of the show and in this clip the proscenium can be seen somewhat altered. I have no apples to apples comparisons to show but the changes seem minor, perhaps I am wrong and someone moe familar with the theatre can elaberate, it has been a while since I attemded a show there. The stage has been extended out over the pit area but that is not at all unusual and has been done many times. Bases on what we can see here it would even be posssible to use the main curtain in the show.The NY 1 video shows a bit more of the processium than the You Tube video tinseltoes has kindly posted here , I have included the video of the review and made a couple of caps as well. As to the size of the3D picture for the Christmas show it seems to me based on what you see in this video the picture does not need to be made smaller as suggested by rcd55b perhaps there is a secondary reason for the change of the picture size we may learn about later. There are changes this tear with the Rocketts 3D what ever that is and may explain the change in the screen.

http://www.ny1.com/content/140402/new-cirque-du-soleil-show—zarkana—fills-radio-city-music-hall?ap=1&MP4

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rcdt55b
rcdt55b on July 2, 2011 at 6:20 pm

Sorry Vito. I’ve been to busy to reply. From what I have heard, some of the mods they have made to the proscenium will not be removed for the Christmas show. The picture is in fact being made smaller by about 10%.

Vito
Vito on July 2, 2011 at 8:16 am

It looks inicent enough from the You tube movie I just am confused by rcdt55 comment about reconfiguring the Christmas Show 3D for a smaller picture because of some of the changes. That sounds a bit scary, please to expmain rcdt55 I read the Times review and can’t for the life of me find anything regarding “auditorium modifications” Did my tired ole eyes miss something?

Oh my plinfesty I think we are all clear on that whole Kiss Me Kate misunderstandment it was an interesting journey however mudding thru it all was it not :)

plinfesty
plinfesty on July 2, 2011 at 6:38 am

Oops! I meant to say that I knew KISS ME KATE was a 2-D film at the Music Hall.

Vito
Vito on July 2, 2011 at 2:42 am

Plinfesty, I simply wanted to clarify the 3D situation at the hall I beleive I misssd the word “probably"in your post which changes what you meant, and I misunderstood it

I sute miss the days when we had someone like REndres at the hall to keep us up to date, I have asked about the modifacatios in the Hall for the current show but apperently no one knows. Guess I will have to go there and see for myself. I also wonder how the boxoffice is doing with those very high ticket prices for that show.

plinfesty
plinfesty on July 1, 2011 at 9:08 pm

Vito, I never said that Radio City Music Hall played KISS ME KATE played in 3-D or that they ever played a commercial film in 3-D (I kn ow KISS ME KATE was a 3-D film there). All I said was that the Boxoffice Magazine article said it had just been installed to handle 3-D and stereophonic sound and may have been the first theatre to do so without having to take an intermission. I referenced the issue date and page number. You can look it up yourself.

Vito
Vito on July 1, 2011 at 10:06 am

Ok now ou have sparked my interest What are these modifacations you speak off. I certanly hope the main curtain is intact.

rcdt55b
rcdt55b on July 1, 2011 at 9:58 am

I’m not so sure they will all be removed. We are already reconfiguring the Christmas Show 3-D for a smaller picture because of some of the changes.

Vito
Vito on July 1, 2011 at 8:42 am

Thanks for that tinsetoes, has anyone attended the show I would love to know more abouttchnical aspects of how the show works at the hall.

Vito
Vito on July 1, 2011 at 5:28 am

Thanks Rob, your responce certainly cleared that up. Speaking of the Christmas show 3D does anyone have info on this uocoming 3-D live show are we looking at 70mm or digital?

RobertEndres
RobertEndres on July 1, 2011 at 4:55 am

Vito, you’re correct. The Boxoffice article was probably posted before the actual opening date of “Kiss Me Kate”. There was a lot of publicity issued by MGM and the Hall bragging about the lack of an intermission. According to both Warren Jenkins and Ben Olevsky who were there at the time, the decision to run “Kate” in 2-D wasn’t made until the night before it opened, when it was screened and the determination was made that too many seats would be lost at the sides and the Mezzanines. Remember with a high-gain aluminized screen, necessary to preserve 3-D polarization, the light coming down at 19 degrees would be reflected off the screen at 19 degrees or so downward,which would cover the front of the orchestra and the center of the lower Mezzanines, but not work very well at the sides. (For what it’s worth, the current digital 3-D that uses high gain screens tends to have the same problem, although most multiplexes don’t have the extreme projection angle the Hall does.)

The Hall does do 3-D for the opening film effect in the Christmas Show, but that’s from a full width screen with two 70mm projectors equipped with 7 K. lamps, and it’s only for a relatively short clip not a whole feature.

In a sense, the Hall’s decision to show “Kate” in 2-D put a nail in the coffin of 3-D presentation in the ‘50’s, since exhibitors figured if the Hall felt it wasn’t necessary why go to the bother of running it. (“Kate” did appear in 3-D in subsequent NYC runs, and has been seen in recent years at the Film Forum 3-D extravagances.)

Vito
Vito on July 1, 2011 at 3:23 am

plinfesty, I would find it hard to beleive that REndres, who wrote the post regarding “Kiss Me Kate” at the hall, was incorrect. As I recall, and yes I was there, the Hall payed the movie in 2D. The article sounds very much what happened at the Paramount in Times Square where 3D movies were shown without intermissiion using four projectors. Would you be kind enough to read that BoxOffice article again and get back to us. If what you say is correct it can only mean that means the Boxoffice article was incorrectly written. There may have been a plan to do so at RCMH but after tests showed problems with sugnifcent light dropoff in the far left and right sides of the theatre the decision was made not to show the film in 3D Perhaps REndrews who is without question our resident expert on all things Music Hall will jump in here and comment.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on June 30, 2011 at 4:51 pm

Too bad Cinerama didn’t play at this theater, since the screen was a bit smaller than wider.

plinfesty
plinfesty on June 30, 2011 at 4:49 pm

Other comments to the contrary, according to an article in Boxoffice Magazine (July 4, 1953, page 28) the Music Hall was probably the first theatre in the country to be equipped to show 3-D movies with no intermission needed (4 projector set-up) along with Stereophonic Sound (with 3 of RCA’s big stage units). This set-up actually predated CinemaScope at the theatre by many months.

Vito
Vito on June 19, 2011 at 12:41 pm

I am surprised there have not been any comments on Cirque du Soleil I wondered if anyone has seen it and if of our RCMH insiders have any tid bits about the backstage story

Vito
Vito on June 7, 2011 at 9:59 am

Thanks Patrick, only my dear sweet mother ever called me Sonny:) You mentioned e-mail notifacations which are working fine for me. Thanks for the help

Patrick Crowley
Patrick Crowley on June 7, 2011 at 9:46 am

@Tinseltoes We’re also going to add the ability to edit your comment in the next week or two, so that should make up the missing comment preview feature.

@Vito We just updated how usernames are displayed. If you edit your name on your profile, as you have done, your name will appear on all of your comments instead of your username.

I’ll look into the issues with the email notifications. Should have a fix for that this week sometime.

Thanks for your patience, everyone!

Vito
Vito on June 6, 2011 at 7:27 am

Oh ok Bill that explains everything :)

By the way the actor, Gianni (Johnny) Russo,who played Carlo, is the real life son of my sisters Godmother; he knows Sonny (Jimmy Caan) quite well.

Tineseltoes, I am glad it was you and not me thanks for that clarifacation my friend.

edblank
edblank on June 6, 2011 at 7:09 am

Sonny, I, too, have gotten notices of multiple new CT postings that were not visible when I checked for them. This happens especially on the Radio City Music Hall site for whatever reason. Then I discovered that by clicking on the word COMMENTS, the most recently posted messages – the ones I’ve been notified about – become visible.