DuPage Theater

109 S. Main Street,
Lombard, IL 60148

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Broan
Broan on April 3, 2005 at 10:32 am

Well, I somehow doubt the foundation will be building the condos themselves. It would require a PRIVATE condo developer to build condos for PRIVATE citizens and owned by a PRIVATE landlord, and additionally need PRIVATE businesses to make PRIVATE investments in their PRIVATE ventures to operate their PRIVATE retail.

Seriously, concerned taxpayer, you’re wasting your time here. Maybe you don’t have an ulterior motive. Maybe you are just concerned with not paying a cent more on your taxes, damn the consequences. Maybe your rhetoric can convince some people to support you and your cause, but the people here have seen enough destruction and redevelopment that we can spot your fallacies a mile away.

Also, this article in the satirical paper “The Onion” reminded me of you. Perhaps you’ll enjoy it. View link

moody1785
moody1785 on April 3, 2005 at 7:21 am

Concerned taxpayer should spread his propaganda of deceit and hate to his own shillsite.It doesn’t belong on this website.
www.dupagetheatre.net is devoted to restoring the Dupage Theatre.
Cinema TREASURES.COM is devoted to movie preservation and awareness and to save the last remaining movie palaces across the country.This website is not about politics.

rbtbid
rbtbid on April 3, 2005 at 6:23 am

TIF is designated to entice continued PRIVATE investment…not public. Give the TIF funds to PRIVATE development initiatives and go to town. Reread the post to undersatnd that we support TIF investment in the theatre but want PRIVATE ENTERPRISE to take the lead…not the “foundation”:
Let the village give away the building, the land (worth well over a million), and the remaining $900,0000 in TIF to a private investor and all will support the plan. The issue is that 99 percent of the restoration is coming from TAX sources one way or another. The village simply cannnot afford to be in the theatre business. But they sure can afford to give away the gift if some private venture is willing to take on all the risks. That has been our mantra for years now.

And if you visit the other website, you will see for yourself the nonsense the so called “friends” drag into this. Enjoy!

moody1785
moody1785 on April 2, 2005 at 8:17 pm

Why doesn’t concerned taxpayer take his spin where it belongs?
It doesn’t belong on this website.Concerned taxpayer and his little league of bulldozer buddies only motivation is to destroy the theatre. Concerned tax payer say’s —quote— “not one of us are out to discredit the theatre or to bring on the bulldozers.That makes me laugh!
Their previous website had on the homepage 3 bulldozers with the caption 2006. What a joke.Again I suggest that the readers of this websites who want to protect theatres read concerned taxpayers website.The motivation for that website is crystal clear.
Read concerned taxpayers website. www.lombardvillagevoice.com
Concerned taxpayers spin doesn’t belong on this website!

Broan
Broan on April 2, 2005 at 7:20 pm

So, as one of the largest under-developed sites in Lombard, how is it NOT blighted? It looks to me like this particular TIF is being used precisely as intended.

rbtbid
rbtbid on April 2, 2005 at 5:40 pm

The building is simply a shell of what it once was. And it is over $8 million to fix it up. All but about $20,000 is TAX DOLLARS. The supporters have tried for years to raise money. Should TIF funds that are “earmarked to spearhead private development in blighted areas” be used to restore the theatre? Should the TIF district be extended to 2024 to accomodate the theatre? Find PRIVATE investment to take the lead and go for it! Let the village give away the building, the land (worth well over a million), and the remaining $900,0000 in TIF to a private investor and all will support the plan. The issue is that 99 percent of the restoration is coming from TAX sources one way or another. The village simply cannnot afford to be in the theatre business. But they sure can afford to to give away the gift if some private venture is willing to take on all the risks. That has been our mantra for years now. Not one of us are out to discredit the theatre or to bring on the bulldozers. All we want to see is PRIVATE INVESTMENT take the lead and if that is not going to happen then it is time for something else to happen on one of the largest under-developed sites in Lombard

Life's Too Short
Life's Too Short on April 1, 2005 at 7:15 pm

Ray…this plan seems to satisfy all interested parties. What axe is left to grind at this point?

Paul…as I understand it the building has been stripped of all systems…wiring, ventiliation, etc. If this is the case, it would be difficult to stage community rock concerts and the like.

moody1785
moody1785 on March 28, 2005 at 12:51 pm

Concerned tax payer and his team of coperatives have been on a quest for several years now to discredit those who have seeked to restore the DUPAGE THEATRE.The latest scheme that they have devised is a last ditch effort, by bring in the TIF issue as it relates to school funding.There was a new TIF district created and approved by the Village board.Not one of these dennisons of doom for the Dupage Theatre objected to the new TIF DISTRICT.The new proposal for the Theatre is great.
It features condos,parking, shops and restoration funds for the Theatre restoration
I suggest that readers visit concerned taxpayers web link.
They will seee for themselves the motivation behind why it was created.

rbtbid
rbtbid on March 28, 2005 at 8:48 am

The village of Lombard currently owns the theatre. A development proposal for $30+ million was received by the village that incorporates a restored theatre (for over $8 million) and condos, retail space, and parking for about $25 million. The deal has not been approved by the village at any level and will face an uphill battle given density, zoning, and TIF issues. The deal is supposed to be formally presented to the village board in a few weeks. Time will tell what happens next. And you are so right, the Wheaton Grand is an excellent example of what could happen with the Dupe…only problem is the Dupe is not habitable at this point and will take more than a little elbow grease to get it to a usable condition again. Read and paricipate in lively discussion of the DuPage Theatre issues at www.lombardvilagevoice.com and get updates on the latest efforts at www.dupagetheatre.net

rroberts
rroberts on March 28, 2005 at 8:20 am

Programming for thirty million? My jaw is still dropped! Has the condo deal been approved by the city or county? Who actually owns the theatre?

Broan
Broan on March 27, 2005 at 6:36 pm

Well, the sum includes all the new development. I would imagine proper programming is included.

rroberts
rroberts on March 27, 2005 at 6:09 pm

It’t crazy! 30 million? Come on. This theatre could be saved WITH the proper programming… call us! We did it: Wheaton Grand Theatre, (630) 221-0667.

rbtbid
rbtbid on March 25, 2005 at 10:55 am

The plan is to renovate/restore the theatre, add a new aesthetically pleasing arched roof, add new space to the rear of the building, and then build a new multi-story condo/retail structure directly south of the theatre building. The old building will be renovated to convert old aparments into new condos and the old retail space into truly leasable space. The cost is estimated at well over $30 million for the entire project with over 80 new condo units and 20,000 square feet of new retail space. It will require village approval for site variances and TIF extensions. Time will tell what happens next..but it is an impressive and aggresive plan

Life's Too Short
Life's Too Short on March 25, 2005 at 10:24 am

What is this condo plan mentioned in the news article? I am not clear on what parts of the Dupage Theater will continue to exist.

cbward
cbward on February 14, 2005 at 1:35 pm

In reply to Bert Kimball and Tom Scott’s query about O.J. Roath, here is part of an article I wrote as part of the 75th anniversary celebration of the DuPage Theatre. I had the pleasure of interviewing one of Mr. Roath’s grandsons for the article.
Cindy Ward
One Mans Dream:
The Theatre Review / Summer 2003 edition

Seventy-five years ago the dream of OJ Roath was fulfilled with the opening of a Paramount Deluxe Movie Palace on Main Street in downtown Lombard. In 1926 his Realty Company purchased the Elkins property on Main at Parkside, which had been zoned for commercial use after a fire destroyed the landmark home. Mrs. Ekins was the noted film critic for the Chicago Tribune whose pen name was Mae Tinee (get itâ€"matinee?). Roath moved a bronze deer from the property to Lilacia Park so everyone could enjoy the deer now known as Rastus. He expanded his concept of a theater by adding shops and apartment space, thus creating a commercial focal point for the village.

The shops filled rapidly. The Ida Lee Sweet shop opened March of 1928.
Mrs. J F Crintenden and Mrs. Ann Lee McCorkel made their own candies on the premises. Butler’s Delicatessen opened in June of ’28 and Roath Realty moved to the corner store. By July of 1929 an ad in the local paper for “Lombard’s Bright Spot” advertised The Nora Hat Shoppe, Lombard Shoe Store, Theatre Service Station, Ray C Allen Linoleum-Tapestries, Glenbard Radio Sales, in addition to the deli, sweet shop and of course, O J Roath Realty. The anchor of the commercial corner would be the Fisher Paramount Deluxe Theatre, since it was a Paramount affiliate. As the concept progressed it became known as the Lombard Theater. Ultimately, as it took on more the form of a deluxe movie palace, Roath changed the property name to the DuPage Theatre and Shoppes, because its appeal reached beyond the Lombard village limits. The $300,000 theater opened on July 26, 1928 with a showing The Yellow Lily, a silent film accompanied by Travis (Tommy) Nesbit on the Barton organ. As part of the festivities, Mr. Nesbit led a community sing. There were vaudeville acts and a live orchestra.

Building Boom
The burgeoning popularity of movies during the 20’s stimulated the construction of palatial cinemas in cities and towns throughout North America. By the end of the decade Paramount Pictures controlled 1,600 movie theaters. There were four other industry leaders who owned and operated theaters. They then contracted with independently owned theaters, such as the DuPage and by 1930 there were 20,000 movie theaters in the U.S.

In the spirit of ‘excess’ two other movie complexes were also proposed for the Lombard area. J A Cruger, the published of the Lombard Spectator, laid the foundation for a theater on St Charles across from the old downtown hotel. Roath moved so quickly, that Cruger did not complete the project. In August of 1928 the Chicago Tribune announced that an third, even larger theater complex was proposed for the Westmore area. It would consist of a 1000 seat theater, 8 stores, 64 offices and 124 apartments. Although the developer had obtained $900,000 in loans the project never broke ground. This is all in addition to a small theater that had opened before any of the others were considered.

The Depression Hits Hard
The euphoria of the business boom came to a sudden halt when events on ‘Black Thursday’ October 24, 1929, signaled the start of the Great Depression. It took more than a year for movie theaters to feel the impact. In 1930 national attendance of theaters hit a peak of 80 million a week. However, by 1931 with 28% of the population unemployed and 85,000 businesses failed, movie attendance fell rapidly. Ticket prices dropped from $.30 to $.20, and attendance continued to decline. Movie houses were rapidly closing. Paramount Corporation struggled financially. It closed one of its major studios, laid off workers and cut salaries. The film distribution and operating company servicing the DuPage went bankrupt. Roath kept the theater going by mortgaging real estate holdings, so determined was he to keep the theater open. However, on July 4, 1931 Roath finally closed his theater and it went into foreclosure.

Resurgence

The DuPage Theatre was reopened four months later by A. C. Hoy who purchased the Theatre and Shoppes. Roath’s real estate business remained in the building as a renter. Hoy was among those who were able to take advantage of the times, and bought several other properties in foreclosure, including two other theaters in the area. Hoy upgraded the facility by installing the “Grandeur screen” claimed to be the world’s largest and finest talking screen. At the time the DuPage was the only theater in the country to have this feature. He did what many other theater operators did to keep their theaters open. He offered incentives such as ‘dish night’, double features, vaudeville acts. Some theaters even gave away cars. In 1935 Gene Autry and his Round Up gang appeared on the stage. The movie industry as a whole began recovery in 1934, when 1000 theaters reopened. Box office receipts rose steadily from then on. However, OJ Roath did not return to the theater business. He, in fact did not recover from the loss. Upon his death in the late 30’s, his son Leroy assumed considerable debt. Although he ran a real estate business, he was unable to purchase a home until 1945.

deleted user
[Deleted] on January 26, 2005 at 6:54 am

On the DuPage Theatre history site the following line is written; “The Dupage was also home to a variety of local shops, including a delicatessen, candy shop, shoe store, hat shop, radio store, and realty company.” The realty company as mentioned was Roath Realty. I will post more on the Dupage and O.J. Roath when time permits.

BertrumKimball
BertrumKimball on January 25, 2005 at 7:52 pm

Would you have any other details about the Dupage and Roath that isn’t mentioned on the Dupage website?

deleted user
[Deleted] on January 25, 2005 at 7:05 pm

It shows you that even the theatre web page could make mistakes nobody is perfect.

deleted user
[Deleted] on January 25, 2005 at 4:48 pm

The original owner of the DuPage Theatre was O.J. Roath. DuPage was not the initial name chosen for this theatre. During construction in 1926-1927 two other names were considered. The first was Paramount Deluxe Movie Palace which was just too long and the other name considered was Lombard because of Lombard Village. The Lombard name was rejected because Roath wanted the theatre to appeal to people outside of Lombard.
I don’t believe you will find this data on the Dupage history page.

deleted user
[Deleted] on January 25, 2005 at 4:38 pm

Very good. You have correctly identified the movie that was shown on opening day. The DuPage theatre website has that data incorrect as they have The Yellow Lady as the name of the movie. See for yourself.

http://www.dupagetheatre.net/restoration.htm?*

Dave1954
Dave1954 on January 13, 2005 at 12:50 pm

Thanks Artspeak. I just cannot fathom why we are in such a hurry to tear down our landmarks which make our cities and towns unique. I mean, if this keeps up, why bother travelling at all, when after a few more years, we will all look the same, with strip malls and such coast to coast! How BORING….

artspeakorg
artspeakorg on January 12, 2005 at 8:42 pm

Good point Dave. I would be happy to have a raise in tax dollars to redevelop the theatre. The good thing is the tax dollars the Dupage Theatre are going after are not going to raise my taxes as a Lombard resident. Some of those tax dollars if not used for the theatre will be used for other projects, some not even in Lombard or Dupage County. The public library that some are pushing to be moved to the theatre location asked for a tax increase last year to rebuild on it’s current location and was denied by a vote of the Lombard residents. “Tax Dollars” has become a dirty word but when you look at all the other things tax dollars are used for these project look like a good investment into the community.

Dave1954
Dave1954 on January 11, 2005 at 2:44 pm

It’s funny that so many Are against tax dollars to restore a landmark that would brighten an otherwise dead part of downtown, but think nothing when the tax payers of Chicago had to subsidize Soldier Field and its' ugly renovation, along with the new Sox Park. Remember when Arlington Park Racetrack burned down in the 70’s or 80’s and Springfield gave poor little rich boy Richard Duchoiss a handout to rebuild? At least with a theater, it can be a multi-purpose building. Can’t we think of a plan to play all, or MOST sports in the same arena and save some bucks?

Broan
Broan on January 8, 2005 at 8:06 pm

Concered Taxpayer’s comments on October 9th and December 4th on this page make reference to the theater being fenced in, for what it’s worth. I do not know if this is the same fence Bryan refers to, however.