Radio City Music Hall

1260 6th Avenue,
New York, NY 10020

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Vito
Vito on November 5, 2007 at 10:16 am

Does anyone know if Broadway technical unions, who are vowing that there will be no work in December if they do not receive a new contract, will affect the Hall? Do they have a seperate agreement with Local one? I am hearing the union may strike right after thanksgiving.

Vito
Vito on November 5, 2007 at 9:36 am

Yup Rob, you made the cut; it was nice putting a face to the name.
I missed or was not paying attention when Ross was on, I’ll have to watch it again.
RCDTJ,Thanks for the 3-D info, I am glad to hear they are still going with 70mm. It’s too bad much of the rest of the film portion has been cut. I believe REndres told us, they have in the past used all five projectors in that show.
I have got to gt my tired old bones out to the show this year,
it has been years.

RobertEndres
RobertEndres on November 5, 2007 at 9:17 am

Gosh! I was on TV? I did that interview several months ago, and wasn’t sure they would use any of it. The last time I was interviewed for a documentary on the Hall I ended up on the cutting room floor. Thanks for letting me know I made the cut. I’ll try to watch for a re-run sometime this week.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on November 5, 2007 at 7:40 am

It was good to see Cinema Treasures friends like Ross Melnick and Rob Endres on TV!

rcdt55b
rcdt55b on November 4, 2007 at 10:07 pm

Vito, the 3-D will still open the show and yes it is still 70MM. It has been changed a bit though. An additional 38 seconds has been added to it. A new scene with polar bears was added. It looks good except is is a bit darker this year. A lot of new scenes have been added to this years show. I have seen them and they are pretty good. Unfortunately, they cut out most of the film spots in the show. The weatherman spot, Marshmallow Moon spot and the nativity crawl is gone. I wouldnt be surprised if next year they eliminate the 70MM.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on November 4, 2007 at 8:20 am

thanks for the info, vito. Radio City Music Hall is a true Cinema Treasure, and the tallest one in Manhattan.

Vito
Vito on November 4, 2007 at 8:08 am

I loved the MSG show as well, had not seen it before.
For those who missed it, there will be repeats all week.
Nice to see REndres had a part in the show.

SPartridge
SPartridge on November 3, 2007 at 8:45 pm

As a teenager I worked in RCMH as a doorman in the 1970’s.
The underground passage was closed for security reasons.
If the doors were left open for people to exit we would get people
sneaking in without paying. They would sometimes leave just one door open from the RCA building to the Music Hall and a dorrman (sometimes me) would be stationed there for a tour. That was boring !
If we had a large tour group with pre-purchased tickets we would admit them through this entrance, also groups that were doing a tour of Rock Center would come through these doors being RCMH was part of that tour. I watched the show on RCMH this evening and enjoyed it alot. Those of us who worked at RCMH back in the early and mid-seventies saw the decline of this great theater ! Was amazed this evening to see the Treasurer of RCMH Box Office on TV tonight he used to be the Manager of the Ushers back when I worked there.
Hi FB !

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on October 28, 2007 at 4:09 pm

great view…nothing much has changed. OH by the way, there will be an MSG special on the history of the theater this week.

bruceanthony
bruceanthony on October 19, 2007 at 2:54 pm

Dear HowardBHaas why don’t we have a poll of the current top 20 theatre marquee’s in the nation as well as the top 20 current theatre lobbies.I think it would be intersting what the favorites are as well as helping future theatre restorations with such a poll. I think many times the maruqee is left out when a restoration occurs and some have done fine job like Radio City,Fox Oakland while others such as the Wang in Boston and Fifth Ave in Seattle have done a poor job. I know restoring a marquee can be costly as well as the theatre itself but many times people involved with the project dont realize how important these marquee’s from the 1920’s,1930’s,1940’s and the 1950’s were to these historic movie palaces. Remember the fun starts on the sidewalk.brucec

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on October 19, 2007 at 11:26 am

There’s a new even further watered down version of IMAX being installed these days in multiplexes. It looks like they are heading the way of Cinerama.

They have already abandoned the speaker head gear, have selected scenes only in 3D movies and now allow for smaller screens.

veyoung52
veyoung52 on October 16, 2007 at 2:43 pm

“Maybe the new opening will be in IMAX, even though RCMH can’t show a format like that (only the Lincoln Square and Naturemax theaters show that format!!!)."
And the Beacon some years ago.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on October 16, 2007 at 2:34 pm

We’ll see. Considering the news surrounding the parent company of the theater regarding the fight to take Cablevision private is more important to shareholders than what will come with the new christmas spectacular. Once in a few years, I always go there for the spectaculars (Easter and Xmas) as well as tapings of TV shows (e.g., Celebrity Jeopardy). I can’t wait until the theater turns 100!!! Maybe the new opening will be in IMAX, even though RCMH can’t show a format like that (only the Lincoln Square and Naturemax theaters show that format!!!).

Vito
Vito on October 16, 2007 at 2:24 pm

I picked up on that as well Warren.
I had hoped the Music Hall would have had some sort of special presentaion to celebrate the 75th anniversary and not just revamp the Christmas show.
I wonder if REndres has had a chance to look into exactly how the Christmas show has changed this year, the mention of new staging intriged me. In addition I wondered if the 3-D opening is coming back, and more importantly is it going to be presented using 70mm film as usual, ot have they gone (gulp) Digital..

Vito
Vito on October 3, 2007 at 4:33 pm

Tickets for the 2007 Christmas show are now on sale.
The ad mentions, amoung other things, new effects. It sounded to me like a new spectacular show from the Great Stage was in the offering.
I wonder if I may impose on our RCMH expert REndres to get more information concerning what the new show will offer in the way of stage effects.
I would also like to know if the 3-D opening is still going to be presented and if it will still be 70mm film. I just have this feeling, nay worry, that someday they will switch to a digital format for that portion of the show.
What can you find out Rob?

gabedellafave
gabedellafave on September 24, 2007 at 11:30 pm

Dear lbnybill,

Thanks for answering my questions about the Music Hall! Very interesting and useful information.

The Bouche murals in the Grand Lounge are stunning. Visitors should take the time to look at them more closely. After doing so, I came to my personal conclusion that Surrealism is one of the overlying styles in the Music Hall’s interior design. That, along with Classical Greek design.

Regards,

Gabe

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on September 24, 2007 at 10:07 pm

Hey saps. I purloined that one when it was posted a while back. I know Warren often rotates images out of his scrapbook, and I figured he wouldn’t mind me hosting it as well, provided I gave proper credit.

Mike (saps)
Mike (saps) on September 24, 2007 at 5:11 pm

That photo’s from Ed Solero’s collection, though it has been in other scrapbooks, too.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on September 24, 2007 at 3:03 pm

Ibnybill… This photo is posted somewhere above – maybe from Warren? With all the comments since then, I thought it worth a repeat link.

lbnybill
lbnybill on September 24, 2007 at 1:58 pm

Gabe – the walls of the Grand lounge were always black, page 63 of “The Art Of Rockefeller Center ” by Christine Roussell" (she had access to all archival records of rock center for the book) – The murals in the Lounge are titled The Phantsmargoria of the Theatre by Louis Bouche. “….specially prepared on black, Pyroxylin-coated walls, they are skillfully rendered.”

I heard – cannot confirm that the furniture in the grand lounge was disposed of (tossed!) in 1972 because the lounge was considered to crowded. there are no plans to recreate the furntiure since this space is rented out for meetings and events, and also for many private cocktail parties prior to christmas show.

The basement exit to the mall level of Rock Center is still there, but unused. It has been uncermoniously covered up on the mall side with generic doors from the mall renovation at 30 rock , they are located right across for the basement box office window that is still there. On the RC side of the passage way, the original doors are still exist, but remain closed.

The Barco LED Screen was replaced last year with a Panasonic screen -it was a huge success. It is being used in tandem with many stage props.

Does anyone have pictures of Radio city when the 6th ave elevated was still there and the marquee was actually part of the exit of the 50th st station ? Would like to see how people exited the marquee and got to street level

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on September 23, 2007 at 8:09 pm

Thanks. Years ago, before I received the photocopy with the lounge photos, I took the tour. Now, I need to take the tour again.

gabedellafave
gabedellafave on September 23, 2007 at 7:51 pm

There is (or was) an underground passage (below 50th St.) that connected the Grand Lounge and the GE Building.

I know it was there because my 8th grade class used it some 33 years ago. We saw “The Little Prince” and I never got over it. I last recall seeing this passage sometime in the ‘90s.

Given the crowded streets when the Christmas shows let out and admit (at almost the same time), has anyone thought of re-opening this totally logical and efficient pathway to the Subway? I think it’s best use would be as an exit.

gabedellafave
gabedellafave on September 23, 2007 at 7:43 pm

HowardBHaas raises another question with his photo of a corner of the Grand Lounge. The walls have wooden patterns—such as walnut or mahogany. Yet, today ALL of the walls in the Grand Lounge are painted a semi-gloss black. Does anyone know if the Grand Lounge once had wood paneled walls, such as the walls in the Roxy apartment upstairs?

Where did all of the missing furniture go? I have never been able to find a good answer to that question. I would guess it was all sold off sometime in the 1980s.

Dear Mr. Haas, between having been on the tour more than once and seeing the Christmas show (more than once), I can safely tell you that each and every lounge in the theater is still there, and they all look to be in mint condition. I’m talking about the Grand Lounge, the basement elevator lounge, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd Mezz. Gentlemens' and Ladies Lounges. The are all still there.

Vito
Vito on September 23, 2007 at 9:01 am

How about getting cheered?
I was in th audience at the Coronet one night when after a changeover the sound went dead,after about 3-4 minutes of watching a silent movie the audience began to boo.
I decided to head on up to the booth to see if I could help, when I got there the projectionist was frantically trying to fix the problem to no avail. I knew since he had just made a changeover the problem was probably with the preamp which is located in the lower part of the sound head in that type of projector. Switchimng preamps fixed the problem and the movie resummed. As I came out the booth door, which at the Coronet lead out into the audience,I was greeted with applause.
Speaking of Rob Endres, we have not heasrd from him in a while, anyone know what he is up too, or if he is still involved in the Music Hall at all anymore?

veyoung52
veyoung52 on September 23, 2007 at 5:30 am

If I may add to the “never-been-boo'ed” list. In the mid-1960’s I was the projectionist at the US Army base in Fort Totten, Bayside, Queens, NY (35mm installation). And I can firmly say, “You have also never been boo'ed until you’ve been boo'ed by 300 drunken servicemen on a payday Friday night!” It’s a scary sight, indeed.