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My trip to see Lion at the Kinnelon Cinemas:
Thursday is currently “senior day”, and according to the web site the price is $5 for seniors. We arrive, boxoffice closed, they are selling tickets from the concession stand. No admission prices anywhere. I ask for 2 senior tickets (we are seniors), and I am told $16. When I ask why the web site says $5 each, I am told that $5 is indeed correct and he re-issues me new tickets.
The theatre lobby clearly has not been cleaned from dropped popcorn from prior showings that day.
The popcorn was stale, almost inedible.
The movie was in auditorium 4. The preshow was out of focus, but the feature was ok. Widescreen “scope” film, screen masked for non wide screen 1.85. Looked like I was watching letterboxed TV. Nobody came to close the auditorium door, which was letting light in.
Other than that, my trip was uneventful. I will never buy a concession item from them again, but the theatre is probably worth the $5 for a first run evening showing.
This theatres current web site is probably the worst theatre web site I have ever seen. It is fairly close to being worthless.
Next Friday (01/27) and Saturday (01/28) The Landmark Loews Jersey in Jersey City, New Jersey is running:
Fri, 1/27 – 8pm – Double Feature – The Great McGinty & Duck Soup
Sat. 1/28 – 6:00pm – Wag The Dog Sat. 1/28 – 8:15pm – Citizen Kane
All 4 films will be presented in 35mm on the giant Loews Jersey screen.
I went to see Jaws last weekend at the Lafayette, the first time I have been back since they ceased running 35mm film.
While the theatre looked to be in good shape and is clearly being maintained, the presentation sucked. The film opened to a consumer bluray player’s “pause” menu. The 2.35:1 aspect ratio film was presented “letterboxed”, centered within masking set for 1.85:1. The picture did not look too bad from the rear of the auditorium, but from the front third, it looked terrible. Not enough resolution, too much compression, and not bright enough, as one would expect watching a consumer bluray on a 30 foot wide screen.
I can watch blurays at home, I don’t need to go out and pay admission to watch them.
At some point, I am going to complain directly to Universal for allowing their film to be shown with such poor presentation.
Anyone know who owns this now that Bow-Tie pulled out?
This coming Friday (11/18) and Saturday (11/19) The Landmark Loews Jersey in Jersey City, New Jersey is running:
All 3 films will be presented in 35mm on the giant Loews Jersey screen!
It appears that the formally renowned Film Forum in NYC is becoming renowned for crappy presentation.
Last Friday, they ran Taza, Son Of Cochise in 35mm Dual Print 35mm. They ran the first half with the two prints about a second out of sync, causing any horizontal motion to have a ghosting trail, and everything to be blurry. One of my friends went out to complain, and he was told, and I quote, “it is a lateral issue” which is a bullshit answer. It was that one print was extremely out of sync with the other. They fixed it for the second half.
Last Sunday, they ran Revenge Of The Creature in Dual Print 35mm, and the entire film was about a second out of sync. Again, people went out to complain, and were told “It is just a movie, have a sense of humor” before the manager just walked away. What utter contempt for their customers. The second feature, The Glass Web was synced perfectly.
If the Film Forum can not find competent people to run 3D, they should not run 3D.
Oh well, scratch another classic film venue off the short list of theatres that I was willing to give my hard earned money.
The theatre is now a TJ Maxx store.
While there is nothing wrong with advertising on facebook, exclusively advertising there is a waste. Between preaching to the choir, and the fact that over half the population is not on facebook, it is clearly insufficient.
I have no idea who “vindanpar” is, but the Landmark Loews Jersey has not finalized any movie plans for the holidays. Wonderful Life is just one of many movies under consideration. Nobody in Jersey City considers the Lafayette competition, they are far enough away, and there are not enough people who patronize both venues for it to be so. Further, 90% of the films presented in Jersey City are on 35mm film.
The glory days of Pete and Nelson are gone, but I don’t agree that they can never be back. People are not going to come out to see consumer video. They can watch that at home. People who go out to see classic films in a theatre want 35mm film, and will tolerate 2K DCP. Blurays just don’t cut it when there is so much classic film programming in the area.
There is no reason to waste time going out to see a Bluray, especially a movie that is on cable practically every other week.
It makes me wonder if all these shows are licensed, as there are stunning DCP’s available for all the Bond films.
If they do not disclose DCP or Bluray, I for one will definitely not go. If they are running Bluray of something that a DCP exists, I would begin to wonder if they are actually licensing the shows.
I still want to know, for each title, whether they will be showing DCP or Bluray.
I can watch Blurays at home. It’s not the $2, which honestly is a great value, but for me it is getting up early and driving 30 miles.
Well, the new “Classic Film Series” has been posted on the Lafayette’s web site.
My only question, which will determine whether or not I attend any of them is, are these shows DCP or DVD/Bluray? If both, which ones are DCP and which ones are DVD/Bluray?
he Ramapo Cultural Arts Center is the old Spring Valley Theatre, which opened in 1962 and closed in 1988. It spent half it’s life as a porno theatre prior to the town of Ramapo taking it over. The Ramapo Cultural Arts Center has it’s own cinematreasures page, here.
I was last in the Ramapo Arts Center around 10 years ago, so admittedly my comments may be out of date.
At that time they had a professional HD video projector, but it was not DCP compliant, so they could only run films from DVD or Bluray. The screen was the back wall painted white. The sound was set up public address style with a speaker on either side of the screen, totally wrong for motion pictures. If movieguy is correct and they are now using Bose speakers, you could not have picked a worse choice for movie sound due to the way they disperse the sound.
The theatre’s interior is typical of a 1960’s movie theatre, no grandeur but functional. Downtown Spring Valley is no Suffern, not much of interest except the theatre.
Clickable link to the new story Pete posted above, Click Here.
Since the town is pulling their digital projector out of the theatre, I think Ari is going to get a big surprise when he finds out how expensive they are to replace.
Formal splits were illegal because they were agreements to not compete among certain exhibitors, harming the distributor. Tracks included the distributor, guaranteeing them screens for their less than big pictures in return for not complaining about exhibitor splits. This may seem silly today, but back then when most theatres were single screen, and a large multiplex might have 4 screens, getting screen time for small pictures was a challenge for the distributors.
Neither splits nor tracks were absolute. Every now and again a new exhibitor would enter the market who would “bid” for films, and if the “bid” was high enough, get to play the film.
There were always clearances, which were always of dubious legality. Exhibitors then as now pay a percentage of the boxoffice vs a guarantee minimum payment to play a film. Obviously, exhibitors would rather have as an exclusive a run in a given area as they can get away with. Back in the days of 35mm film, were there were a limited number of prints, the distributor would want their film playing in the highest grossing theatre in a given area. Now that 35mm film is all but gone, the excuse for clearances is even more questionable. Several studios have recently discontinued the practice.
These days film terms are negotiated between the distributors and the exhibitors. Actually, the big circuits negotiate, the small independents are told what it will cost, take it or leave it.
The Cinema 35 opened in November of 1973 with the film Executive Action. I was there opening weekend and still have some of the promotional material that they gave out for their Grand Opening.
The theatre was built intended to be part of the Jerry Lewis Cinema circuit. Jerry Lewis Cinemas were franchises generally marketed to people outside the exhibition industry, unlike their competitors which were company owned locations. The Cinema 35 was originally owned by a lawyer, I forget his name.
Network Cinemas, the corporate name for Jerry Lewis Cinemas went bust before the Cinema 35 opened, and the Cinema 35 never had the Jerry Lewis name or signage. While the Cinema 35 has many independent owners over the years, the last of which renamed it The Paramus Picture Show, as far as I know, the theatre was never part of the UA circuit.
Back when ET was originally released, films were distributed by what was called in the industry “track”. If you look at newspaper ads from back then, you would see theatres grouped as “Blue Carpet Theatres” and “Red Carpet Theatres”, among others. What these “tracks” were, were an unofficial product splitting arrangement between distributors and exhibitors, where the owner of a given location would agree to play all of a given studios films in return for being unofficially guaranteed that they would get every film. Officially, films were put up for “bid”, where the various theatre owners would bid against each other for how much they would pay for the rights to play a given film at a given location. Product splitting was an unwritten agreement not to bid against each other. Tracks were phased out in the mid 1980’s, when the Justice Department started looking into the anti-trust implications of product splitting.
Remembering that the Stanley Warner was just a twin or triplex at the time, there were more studios than screen. The Cinema 35 ran on the same Universal track as the UA Fox in Hackensack. A few years later, as the Stanley Warner expanded to their eventual 10 screens, they tried to pull the Universal titles from the Cinema 35, and the owner of the Cinema 35 sued them. I believe he won the battle but lost the war, in that by being forced to bid against a large national circuit for films proved too costly for a single screen independent.
Jerry Lewis Cinemas were almost a good idea, and the theatre design was ahead of it’s time for running a small theatre with minimal staff.
The problems were fourfold.
First, the franchisees were required to purchase their equipment, supplies (including concessions), and book their films via Network Cinemas, which tended to charge more than other suppliers and bookers. They were at a competitive disadvantage before they opened the doors. No wonder these franchises were marketed to people outside the industry. Anyone who owned an independent theatre realized that they could do everything Network Cinemas was doing cheaper themselves.
Second, they had no product. When you go into a McDonald’s, whether it be in New Jersey or New Mexico, you know what is on the menu. Same with Midas Mufflers. They have a product that the parent company can promote regionally if not nation wide. Network Cinemas owned no distribution rights to any movies. Each franchisees had to “bid” how much they would pay to play any given movie individually, as was the practice at the time. That meant that Network Cinemas could not promote anything as being exclusive to their theatres.
Third, Network Cinemas had a policy of only booking “family” films, just as the industry started shifting to “R” rated for many big releases.
Finally, while Jerry Lewis still had some great films in him through the 1970’s and 1980’s, his name was no longer the boxoffice magic that would make people flock to the cinema.
The link works for me. Perhaps your computer has a virus?
The next films are the weekend of June 3rd and 4th.
A Trip To The Moon (silent with organ accompaniment)
Day The Earth Stood StillAliens
The Landmark Loews Jersey – The Wonder Theatre Of New Jersey
The theatre is located on Journal Square in Jersey City, NJ directly across from
the PATH subway station connecting Manhattan with Jersey City. It is also easy
to reach from most area highways. Secure discounted parking is located directly
behind the theatre. Have your parking ticket validated at the theatre’s boxoffice.
April 15th & 16th
Friday April 15th, 2016
All That Jazz – 8:00PM
Saturday April 16th, 2016
Footlight Parade (35mm) – 6:00PM
All About Eve (35mm) – 8:15PM
Visit The The Landmark Loews Jersey For More Information.
I know that the The Landmark Loews Jersey has rented and will rent their historic theatre for film screenings, and assist with booking the film. I do not know what they charge, but it I suspect that it is substantially less than $7K to $10K. Again, you need to call the specific venue that you are interested in to get a realistic idea of whether this is a viable idea.
The theatre is located on Journal Square in Jersey City, NJ directly across from the PATH subway station connecting Manhattan with Jersey City. It is also easy
to reach from most area highways. Secure discounted parking is located directly behind the theatre. Have your parking ticket validated at the theatre’s boxoffice.
Our March Classic Movies Will Be Presented From High Resolution 35mm Motion Picture Film With Genuine Carbon Arc Projection, On Our Giant 50 Foot Wide Screen.
March 11th & 12th
From Book To Film…
Friday March 11th, 2016
The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946) 35mm – 8:00PM
Saturday March 12th, 2016
Stand By Me (1986) 35mm – 6:00PM
To Kill A Mockingbird (1962) 35mm – 8:15PM
The Landmark Loews Jersey
The idea is feasible, but rather costly. Email is not the best way to get information, they tend to be ignored. Phone and ask the manager who to contact about a rental, or better yet, go in person.
> They (Bardavon) have a fully functioning 35 MM platter projector.
At this point, many of the studios and many collectors will not permit their prints of classic films to be played on platters. Platters require the head/tail leaders to be removed so that the entire feature can be assembled into one huge roll of film. Platters have a reputation, possibly undeserved, for damaging prints.
If you include east of the Hudson as in this area, in addition to the Bardavon, their is the Tarrytown Music Hall, the Alamo Draft House (Yonkers), Jacob Burns (Pleasantville) that have 35mm capability.
As too renting a theatre for a public screening, normally you are charge a flat rate rental fee for the theatre. If you have the theatre book the film, you will probably be charged an additional booking fee plus any advance “guarantee” charges from the films distributor. You will be required to pay this in advance. The theatre, as part of the rental, will provide staffing. If you want your show on the marquee, you need to specify that when renting. You are responsible for all advertising. If the showing(s) gross more than the pre-paid guarantee, the percentages kick in with the distributor. You get the percentage that the distributor does not. The theatre should not take a cut of your boxoffice. You will not get a cut of the concession.
Neither myself nor (as far as I know) movieguy works for the Lafayette Theatre. As movieguy suggests, you should call the venues you are considering during operating hours to compare rental pricing.