AMC 34th Street 14

312 W. 34th Street,
New York, NY 10001

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guolei329
guolei329 on December 12, 2018 at 11:14 pm

have they upgraded the imax theater yet?

ridethectrain
ridethectrain on December 10, 2018 at 5:54 pm

Attempted to see “Schinderlers List 25th Anniversary” in Dolby Vision at this location. The projector for Dolby Vision wouldn’t start.

BobbyS
BobbyS on December 10, 2018 at 4:18 pm

Thanks for all the info…even with the lasers etc, and the so-called mega screens of today, it all pales to the screen size and projection of the 1950/1960’s TODD-AO to me. Real wall to wall, floor to ceiling screens and beautiful sharp & colorful images!

CF100
CF100 on December 8, 2018 at 4:43 pm

LARGE_screen_format: You’re welcome, glad you found it interesting.

LARGE_screen_format
LARGE_screen_format on December 8, 2018 at 5:25 am

@CF100

Most interesting. Lots of information to digest there. Thanks for taking the time to share all of that with the rest of us.

IMAX with Laser vs Dolby Cinema – let the battle begin…

CF100
CF100 on December 8, 2018 at 4:56 am

To add to zoetmb’s response:

To show content supplied in DCP format, the projector must be “DCI compliant.” Almost all of these use DLP chips, which have 1000s of “micromirrors” on them that tilt in order to adjust the amount of light reflected back off them.

(Sony in particular use LCoS, a liquid crystal layer adjusts the light reflected off a reflective layer below.)

Prior to the introduction of so-called “laser” projectors, the light source that reflects off the DLP chips (one for each of red, green and blue colours) has largely been Xenon lamp(s).

There are now various DCI-compliant products offering laser light source projection, therefore some of them are lower-end and intended for use in large “PLF” auditoria, nor would two projectors be used in all cases.

Some people feel that film’s inherent colors

Improvements to colour gamut/contrast is an area that’s undergoing rapid development; particularly in the consumer space, with a mushrooming of “HDR” formats, and in the theatrical space IMAX have their proprietary laser projection system (IMAX with Laser), as do Dolby (Dolby Vision.) I’m not clear on what additional capabilities the source format for IMAX with Laser system uses (IMAX digital releases aren’t distributed in DCP format, they use IMAX Digital Format (IDF)—an “extended” version of DCP), but certainly IMAX say they separately colour grade (in the mastering of) content specifically for IMAX with Laser.

The original IMAX with Laser projection system was designed for full-sized “Grand Theatre” IMAX venues, being intended as a replacement for the 15/70 film projectors.

It is a dual-projection system. As aligning to 2x4K projectors to sub-pixel levels is, apparently, impossible, in 2D mode, crudely, one projector outputs a lower resolution image, the other fills in the details, forming an overall “smooth” image, avoiding the “pixel grid” effect caused by the gaps between each of the mirrors in a DLP chip.

The new generation “IMAX with Laser” projection system, now being rolled out to smaller venues, and, IIRC, not capable of 1.43:1 but 1.9:1 only, is a single projector system

In any case, provided the system is capable of getting the desired look on screen, then in colour grading it can be made to look any way desired creatively—oversaturated, tinted, etc.

But today’s few 70mm prints are generally made from digital intermediates

To add, inherently digital aspects in the “workflow” of creating any modern feature film include digital “matting”/compositing and CGI. One need only sit through the end credits to see how many people are involved!

Christopher Nolan claimed to have used an “optical finishing” process for, e.g. Dunkirk, but, I’m not clear on to what extent that means an uninterrupted “all optical” chain from the camera lens to print. (See above paragraph.)

Technically trying to compare film/digital projection is a minefield with so many variables, but I’ll say this: Neither is the perfect, “holy grail;” both have limitations and unwanted artifacts. In the case of laser light source projection, there is a “speckling” issue. Significant effort has been put into ameliorating it; IMAX bought thousands of Kodak’s patents in developing their “IMAX with Laser” projection system.

One known method that IMAX use to reduce “laser speckle” is to fit the screen with hundreds of small transducers, which slightly shake it.

IMO, digitally captured/generated material shown using the IMAX with Laser system (first generation—will be visiting a smaller cinema that’s just had the new system installer very soon) looks very good indeed.

15/70 projection I recall “back in the day,” at its best, as looking amazing—however, expectations change, and the last film I saw in 15/70 was “Interstellar,” and whilst I don’t think anyone would say it looked “bad,” film artifacts were very obvious—grainy, inconsistent colour.

Also, today’s few 70mm prints use DTS digital sound and while the specs are better than analog, I feel the old 6-track magnetic analog soundtracks when they were at their best, sounded far superior.

In a world where Atmos exists, both are throughly obsolete. Theatrical DTS uses apt-X lossy compression, which dates from the 1980s; it, therefore, is compromised over “lossless” digital audio delivery systems.

zoetmb
zoetmb on December 7, 2018 at 6:09 pm

Bobby: Theaters don’t play Blu-rays or DVD’s or even UHD’s except in some special circumstances, like a film festival or a very old film. They play what’s called a DCP (Digital Content Package) that’s provided by the studios. It’s a hard drive with lots of security that is opened by a digital key and is then uploaded to a server by the theater staff. And you’re confusing laserdiscs and laser projection. Laserdiscs were read by a laser (as are CD’s, DVD’s, Blu-ray and UHD discs). Laser projection uses a laser as a lighting source to project the image and in most cases, also uses two projectors to brighten the image. Laser projection is used today mostly only in IMAX, Dolby, Prime and other large format screens. That could change in the future as projection equipment gets upgraded.

I’d say laser is sharper than 70mm, but is it better? That’s subjective. Some people feel that film’s inherent colors and its grain structure makes for a better picture. But today’s few 70mm prints are generally made from digital intermediates, so they’re not a true representation of what Todd-AO or Super Panavision 70mm was like. And old prints are faded and damaged. Also, today’s few 70mm prints use DTS digital sound and while the specs are better than analog, I feel the old 6-track magnetic analog soundtracks when they were at their best, sounded far superior.

BobbyS
BobbyS on October 12, 2018 at 2:49 pm

Is laser really better & sharper than a digital projector or a 70mm film on a Todd-AO bulb? I once bought a laser disc machine and bought videos that were the size of a LP record. It was so long ago I forgot the comparison to VHS. I wonder if a laser projector can play a Blue Ray DVD or has to have something different from the studio just for the projector.

NYer
NYer on October 12, 2018 at 2:44 pm

“kips bay is the oldest megaplex in this city.”

Cinepolis Chelsea Cinemas….July 14, 1989

AMC Loews Lincoln Square 13… November 18, 1994

AMC Kips Bay 15…..May 14, 1999

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on October 12, 2018 at 2:21 pm

I wonder if this will get the imax laser upgrade next…kips bay is the oldest megaplex in this city.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on September 12, 2018 at 12:05 pm

Cineplex Odeon, under Universal, helped make Jurassic Park a top draw in DTS in their theaters, including the Route 4 Tenplex and the Ziegfeld theater.

Mike (saps)
Mike (saps) on September 12, 2018 at 9:24 am

Another vote for Cineplex Odeon. They really knew how to put on a show, even if their finances and leadership were a mess.

BobbyS
BobbyS on September 12, 2018 at 7:56 am

Same here in Chicago Howard. CO gave us curtained screens & marble floors and really knew how to mask a film properly. It brought back a little glitz of going to the movies!

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on September 11, 2018 at 12:40 pm

I liked Cineplex Odeon. They overspent on acquiring & furnishing theaters & could not sustain that business model but they gave theatergoers curtained screens, marble floors, custom carpets, etc, at least in the DC & NYC theaters I attended regularly.

robboehm
robboehm on September 11, 2018 at 12:32 pm

Shall we also discuss Cineplex Odeon and their inability to run theaters and stay out of bankruptcy or the deplorable conditions of UA theaters or Clearview?

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on September 11, 2018 at 11:45 am

I agree. First it was called Loew’s when it owned MGM until it sold off the studio. Then in the late 60s new owners took over the company and removed the ‘ and became a huge conglomerate that would soon sell the theater division to Coke, who would sell it to sony, then have it merged with cineplex, then filed for bankruptcy protection while under ownership by Onex before AMC took over. It’s like when General Cinema was dying until AMC came in and ate it up. Same for Carmike before it became AMC Classic.

BobbyS
BobbyS on September 11, 2018 at 11:39 am

I imagine in the future LOEWS will disappear completely. Only us fans will remember what it meant. AMC may be owned over seas, but they really don’t know much about running movie theaters here!

thehorror13
thehorror13 on September 8, 2018 at 5:05 pm

Aspect ratio of the new Dolby Cinema screen (Theater 8) is a extremely big scope screen!

Also, I have noticed that they removed the Loews Theaters plaques that were above the movie posters around the theater. And there are paper-made directions signs all around the theater emphasizing AMC, not AMC Loews. The marquee outside still says Loews. I would surmise that this theater is next to be converted to an official AMC soon. That would leave only the Orpheum and Lincoln Square as the last two New York City theaters with Loews design and name afterwards.

Celestial85
Celestial85 on August 8, 2018 at 7:57 pm

I didn’t know that the Loews screen was being renovated to a Dolby Cinema, it was the biggest non-IMAX screen there. Will this Dolby Cinema be the biggest in the city now?

xbs2034
xbs2034 on August 6, 2018 at 8:58 pm

I saw the Dolby Cinema tonight, it is a scope screen like the Empire one. Screen isn’t that large though (I believe contractually they have to be smaller than the IMAX in a theater with both formats, and the IMAX screen here seems to me to be the smallest of the Manhattan sites), I would imagine the former Loews screen at Lincoln Square will be bigger once those Dolby Cinema renovations are complete.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on July 1, 2018 at 3:20 pm

Is it the largest dolby cinema in the tri state?

celboy
celboy on June 25, 2018 at 6:08 am

To me it looked similar to AMC25 but possibly more keystoning due to theatre design. The projectors were side by side instead of going thru a 90 degree prism.I think its called “duo” mode.

Celestial85
Celestial85 on May 15, 2018 at 8:44 am

What’s the aspect ratio of the dolby cinema screen, is it scope like AMC Empire 25.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on April 29, 2018 at 11:29 am

Dolby now open with infinity war.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on April 8, 2018 at 10:34 am

This theater opened around the same time as jersey gardens.