City Cinemas Village East

181 2nd Avenue,
New York, NY 10003

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Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on June 18, 2018 at 11:40 am

I would estimate the screen size in AMC Garden State theater #15 in Paramus as 60 feet wide, which was the same size as the screen at the original Stanley Warner Route 4 down the road, which played 2001 many times. Lots of head turning was necessary from the front row, which is a good way to watch 2001. About 30 people were there for the 3:30 PM show on Sunday.

Ericeman on June 14, 2018 at 10:08 pm

@Bill Sweet thanks! NYC houses aren’t always known for size so it’ll be nice to know if it’s worth it to go back to my old stomping grounds (grew up in NJ!). To be fair though I haven’t been to Village East since seeing The Master so unless the report is WOAH! there’s a good chance I’ll check it out here.

Worth noting if it hasn’t been said already: it’s supposed to be opening at MoMI (a pretty great room, good screen size for the NYC art house scene) and Alamo (can’t speak for screen size here).

bigjoe59 on June 14, 2018 at 1:34 pm


I thank xbs2034 for replying. granted films rated PG before the creation of the PG-13 rating the fall of 1984 would certainly get a PG-13 today. but what surprised me was films with a G rating having more than one scene of bare butt nudity and in the case of the 1968 Planet of the Apes a very quick shot of everything where they’re swimming near the waterfall.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on June 14, 2018 at 10:38 am

Ericeman: I’m going to the AMC Garden State 16 on Sunday and I’ll ask about the screen size. If nobody knows, I’ll give you my best estimate.

xbs2034 on June 14, 2018 at 8:15 am

Bigjoe59- I saw The Seagull here a couple weeks ago, and was a bit funny to see the giant G rating on the 2001 poster outside, cause even while it is far from a graphic film, not what people associate with the G rating today.

But it’s a mix of there being no PG-13 rating until the mid 1980s and the MPAA starting to get much stricter during the 1990s that lead to questionable ratings one finds on some older films (as some examples of the changes look at the PG rated All the President’s Men which has language that would trigger an R now, or the formerly G rated Wizard of Oz getting a PG when it was resubmitted for the 3D re-release several years ago).

HowardBHaas on June 14, 2018 at 7:25 am

RobertEndres, you are right- the film I saw here didn’t look as wide screen as I expected! Would the keystone effect also affect 1.85 or (and some new films as well as old) 1.33/1.37?

RobertEndres on June 14, 2018 at 5:56 am

You should be aware that the Village East main auditorium has a very steep downward angle for projection. The screen which had been onstage when it was a single house was moved forward when the proscenium was bricked up to create the two backstage screens. There is a fair amount of cropping to account for the keystone. I saw a 2.2 70mm print here when the house opened and it looked as if the picture were almost 1.85. They did have lenses that shifted the image up a bit, but one of the engineers I work with has tech checked a couple of 70mm prints here and always laments the crop.

HowardBHaas on June 14, 2018 at 4:32 am

I’ve not been to the AMC Garden State, but on my 1 visit here, to see the 70mm “Murder on the Orient Express” I estimated the screen width for the movie in that ratio (2.2, just like 2001 in 70mm) at about 34 feet wide, a fairly decent sized screen. Sightlines count too & there are excellent sightlines in the Village East main auditorium. Orient Express was properly matted/masked here. Surround sound was very good, too.

Ericeman on June 14, 2018 at 12:07 am

So it’s been a good long while since I’ve been to Village East and I’m wondering screen size compared between here and the Garden State AMC. This is, of course, in reference to 2001 and I get the feeling AMC might have a bigger screen though that’s only based off of the usual small screen NYC art house experience. Thoughts?

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on June 13, 2018 at 10:49 am

For three out of the past four weeks, the highest grossing movie in the US based on per-screen average has been “2001”. If only Stanley were still alive to see this.

bigjoe59 on May 31, 2018 at 1:51 pm


in reference to moviebuff82’s May 21 post. many “classics” weren’t rated till they first came out on home video. 2001 got a G rating i thought at least a PG since there’s the scene where one ape beasts another ape to death. also how did Ben-Hur get a G rating with the scene where Messala gets pounded into a cube steak the horse’s hoofs. also the original 1968 Planet of the Apes likewise got a G rating. yet there is a scene when the American astronauts land on what they think is an uncharted planet they bath in a pool underneath a waterfall naked and you get a very quick glimpse of everything.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on May 26, 2018 at 5:47 am

Nothing does justice to the Star Gate sequence as well as a curved screen. Maybe Warner Home Video is going to surprise us?

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on May 25, 2018 at 9:28 pm

Then again, I could be wrong! That was pretty spectacular looking, NYer!!!

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on May 25, 2018 at 6:55 pm

That was pretty great NYer!

NYer on May 25, 2018 at 6:35 pm

2001 A Space Odyssey – Trailer(Smilebox Cinerama)

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on May 25, 2018 at 4:43 pm

Brothers Grimm in Smilebox … sigh. That’s my home video Holy Grail. Too bad there are no plans at all to release it. I should just be grateful I got to see it in Cinerama in 2012.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on May 25, 2018 at 3:42 pm

I’m not sure the smilebox presentation would work well for a regular anamorphic or spherical widescreen film. It does wonders for a true three-strip Cinerama flick like HTWWW or Brothers Grimm, where the viewing plane gets distorted and just doesn’t work in a flat screen presentation.

bigjoe59 on May 25, 2018 at 12:54 pm


to Ed S. thank you for your reply. I was fortunate to have seem 2001 twice during its roadshow run at the Capitol on the gigantic curved Cinerama screen. I suppose every viewing of the film in a theater will be judged against those two viewings.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on May 25, 2018 at 11:59 am

I guess it’s too much to hope for a Smilebox curved screen simulation on the 2018 Blu-ray. How the West Was Won came out spectacularly in that format 10 years ago.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on May 24, 2018 at 3:58 pm

Nolan just wanted a nice analog representation of what 2001: A Space Odyssey looked like to audiences back in 1968 – albeit without the gigantic curved Cinerama screen (no doubt a huge part of the initial 2001 experience). Still, no digital overlays, no color correcting… Just a nice fresh 70mm print off the interpositive as may have been enjoyed by audiences on general release, anyway.. My understanding is that the film is being restored digitally in preparation for a 50th anniversary Blu-ray release later in the year. That will have all the digital bells and whistles applied and make for wonderful viewing at home – and maybe even at the odd cinema in 4K projection, if the powers that be are so inclined. But that end product will not look like a negative to film transfer would have looked in 1968.

bigjoe59 on May 24, 2018 at 3:17 pm


to markp. I like your witty comment. I don’t see what would have been soooooooooooooo horrible if Nolan had restored the print before making the 70MM prints for the 50th Anniversary. is Nolan saying classic films should never be restored?

markp on May 23, 2018 at 1:21 pm

See now if it was the Regal E Walk or AMC Lincoln Square and I was running it there would be no scratches. Just saying

xbs2034 on May 23, 2018 at 10:22 am

Peter- I’ve heard from someone else who saw 2001 yesterday that there is a 2 line scratch down the middle of the screen for much of the third act. Certainly doesn’t sound like the ones from negative used to make the new prints, or what was in the first days it was showing, and that’s unfortunate (though also the risk run the longer a print has been playing).

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on May 22, 2018 at 10:56 am

2001 is held over at the Village East for another week.

PeterApruzzese on May 22, 2018 at 7:57 am

Howard – unfortunately there were already a few minor projection scratches visible on the print at the show I saw on Saturday. Thin black tramlines on the extreme right side that should not be there on what would have been the 6th or 7th running of the print (hell, they shouldn’t be there even after the 100th running of the print). Plus some dirt/lint near the reel changes and visible splicing tape.