Ziegfeld Theatre

141 W. 54th Street,
New York, NY 10019

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RobertR
RobertR on March 8, 2006 at 10:15 am

When “Lady & the Tramp” was recently restored for DVD, I was thinking what a shame they did not re-release it to theatres. It was a Cinemascope cartoon and looked AWESOME on the big screen. I remember the last theatrical re-issue I was running the Cinemart and we were getting full houses even at night.

William
William on March 8, 2006 at 9:41 am

I believe the current dimensions are 50 feet by 24 feet. Back for the 1973 70MM reissue of “This is Cinerama”, the temp screen was 63 feet by 27 feet.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on March 8, 2006 at 8:54 am

You have a good memory, Irv. I had to check the Reader’s Digest connection on imdb.com. Apparently, the magazine shared production expenses with Arthur P. Jacobs' Apjac International (I always associate Apjac with the “Planet of the Apes” series). I always thought this was a Disney production, but I am wrong. The score was written by the brotherly partnership of Robert and Richard Sherman, who had worked for Disney since the 1950’s and scored many of their films, including “Mary Poppins”, “The Aristocats”, “Bedknobs & Broomsticks”, “The Jungle Book” and the Winnie the Pooh series. They also took on non-Disney assignments such as “Chitty Chitty Bang Bang”, “Charlotte’s Web” and this film. They blessed the human race with Disney Theme Park’s signature song “It’s a Small World” – for better or for worse.

So anyway… I had previously asked about the Ziegfeld’s screen dimensions and was wondering if anyone had an answer for me? I know it’s not the 80 foot curved screen both Vincent and I pine for, but I’m still curious as to just how big it is.

ErikH
ErikH on March 8, 2006 at 8:38 am

Prior to the home video era, Disney re-released their classic titles every 7 years or so (and often did blockbuster business during those reissues). Following the advent of home video, the studio experimented with reissues of classics previously released on video—–“Pinocchio” (in the late 80s/early 90s) and more recently, “The Little Mermaid.” My recollection is that neither reissue did well enough to justify the cost of new prints and marketing.

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on March 8, 2006 at 7:31 am

Hey Ed-

I saw the animated Disney’s ‘Robin Hood’ at Radio City as well at the 1973 Christmas Show. They played the film before the live show. How’s that for a full day of entertainment. I gotta give myself credit for actually staying in my seat for that long back then. I recently went to the RCMH Christmas Show this past year with the in-laws and their kids. Those brats couldn’t sit still and keep quiet long enough before their dad had to yank them out of the theater and the show wasn’t even half way over yet. Too much TV!!!

Now that you mention it I do remember seeing ‘Tom Sawyer’ back then starring Johnny Whitaker, Jodie Foster, and Celeste Holm. That’s a blast from the past! Wasn’t it something like “Reader’s Digest Presents”. Probably saw that in the same theater as ‘Mary Poppins’ and ‘Sound of Music’.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on March 8, 2006 at 7:19 am

Oh Ed! If only we could see it on an 80 ft curved screen. But then there would be nothing left to live for would there? Except maybe to see it again and again…

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on March 8, 2006 at 7:11 am

My Mom used to take me religiously to see Disney theatrical re-releases. What ever happened to them? Disney continued this practice (albeit with decreasing frequency) right through the early to mid 90’s. I think I remember “Sleeping Beauty” having a re-release not all that long ago. Seems to me that’s why certain classic titles of theirs were offered “for a limited time only” when they came to home video – so that Disney might still have an audience for theatrical re-release of those titles. I always wanted to take my kids to the movies to see my favorite old Disney film “Pinnochio”… but now, I fear, they are growing too old for it to have the same impact as it did when I saw it as a child.

I remember seeing the “Mame” coming attraction at Radio City Music Hall when I saw Disney’s “Robin Hood” (or was it the musical “Tom Sawyer”?) there. I recall thinking at the time what a very long trailer it was – and joking that we didn’t need to come back and see the film as the trailer showed so much of it, even though we did go back to RCMH to see it.

I love that Clearview played the “2001” trailer the other night! I can’t wait to see it once again on the big screen. I hope the print is in good shape and that the entrance music and entr'acte are presented properly.

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on March 8, 2006 at 6:25 am

Little flashback on when I saw the re-releases of ‘Poppins’ and ‘Sound of Music’. I distinctly remember seeing the trailers for ‘Jesus Christ Superstar’ and ‘Mame’ when I saw both of these in the theater. I think the trailer for ‘JCS’ was before the ‘Sound of Music’ screening and the ‘Mame’ trailer before ‘Poppins’. So that would make this 1973 and ‘74 respectively. I remember being a little spooked by the 'JCS’ trailer. As a little kid the idea of hippies and Jesus was a concept to big and abstract for my little head. I also remember seeing the ‘Mame’ trailer and knowing who Lucy was. Funny to think that rock bands like Led Zeppelin and the New York Dolls were at their peak at that time and I was just a little kid being dragged by my mom to see musicals at the movie theater.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on March 8, 2006 at 6:02 am

In my post the fortunate should read unfortunate.

Excellent idea Irv. These films would be perfect for the big screen and families.
if only they could get SOM and Chitty in 70mm.

Good MGM program this week. So why did they choose this Sunday to be closed?!

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on March 8, 2006 at 5:44 am

About Mary Poppins, I totally agree. I was lucky enough to see this as a kid in the theater when it was in re-release in the early 70s. Also a year or two before or after I saw ‘The Sound of Music’ and ‘Oliver’ in a theatrical re-release. Gotta thank my Mom for thinking of taking me to all of those. Experiences I’ll never forget and perhaps a contributing factor to my big screen fandom. The Ziegfeld should maybe do a ‘film for kids of all ages’ and include ‘Mary Poppins’, ‘Sound of Music’, and maybe ‘Chitty Chitty Bang Bang’ or another big screen disney classic that I can’t think of right now.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on March 8, 2006 at 4:49 am

I saw Mary Poppins a few years ago at the Walter Reade and while a good print the words of the songs were subtitled. This was fortunate.
For the release of the DVD the film should have been rereleased by Disney.
How the kids sit through it today on video I’ll never know.(Do they?) The Ziegfeld should get Disney to get them an archive print. People should be introducing their kids to this movie in a theater. It’s one of the best.

RobertR
RobertR on March 8, 2006 at 2:34 am

Mary Poppins played recently at the Thalia-Symphony Space. I was wondering if it was a new print.

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on March 7, 2006 at 5:15 pm

THAT IS:

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ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on March 7, 2006 at 5:11 pm

Kudos-right on-only one Ziegfeld and thousands of big screen classics- how about Jaws, Back to the Future, Saturday Night Fever, Guys and Dolls, Midnight Cowboy, Mary Poppins-Yeah, Mary Poppins!!

You got more-I’m sure you do-LET THEM KNOW!

REMEMBER WHAT “THE WOLF” (HARVEY KEITEL) SAID IN “PULP FICTION”—“LET’S NOT STAND AROUND AND S..K EACH OTHER’S XXXX JUST YET”

GET ON CLEARVIEW.COM!!!

Vito
Vito on March 7, 2006 at 11:01 am

Bill, since retirement I am busy as ever and rarley get into Manhattan. I am sure it will be a kick seeing some of those wonderfull pictures on the big screen again, and plan on making more of an effort to attend soon.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on March 7, 2006 at 9:22 am

Vito: Have you been able to attend any of these shows at the Ziegfeld? I’m not sure if you live in the area, but we’d all enjoy hearing the comments of a true professional like yourself.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on March 7, 2006 at 9:01 am

OK – if that wasn’t a new print of “Temple of Doom”, it was a perfectly preserved old one. Not one scratch or splice in the entire two hours.

hardbop
hardbop on March 7, 2006 at 8:39 am

I was at the INDIANA JONES double feature Friday night (TEMPLE OF DOOME & LOST CRUSADE) and neither was a new print. If you recall, the MI3 preview screened right before those films and the trailer was pristine. Right after they went to the films and you could see the contrast between what a “new” print looks like and and what a faded print looks like. In fact, the contrast was startling.

ErikH
ErikH on March 7, 2006 at 8:02 am

I find it interesting to note that the Ziegfeld series appears to be doing decent business despite minimal advertising—-I haven’t seen a single ad in the Times for the series—-an impressive demonstration that there is an audience in the NYC area eager to see classics on the big screen. Kudos to Clearview for taking this chance.

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on March 7, 2006 at 7:22 am

Hi Vito:

Absolutely on target, I’ve been in touch with Craig O' Connor who is programming the Classic series and he encouraged me to send all comments to www.clearviewcinemas.com and click on the “Customer Comments” link. The top brass appreciate it and really listen. They WANT this program to succeed. I’ve also made him aware of this forum. Thank you everyone. After Indy is North by Northwest, Dr. Zhivago, Singin' in the Rain. Followed by Space Week, and then Lawrence. You have ideas for more. Let them know, by all means.

Thanks, thanks, thanks

Gary

Vito
Vito on March 7, 2006 at 3:13 am

Ya know Bill, I think Clearview has read and acted on the many pro and con comments on this page, many of our complants seem to have been taken seriously. Take a bow everyone, and thanks Clearview!

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on March 6, 2006 at 7:09 pm

Tonight’s showing of “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom” looked like a brand-new print to me. The “MI3” trailer was once again attached, but there was a special surprise when the curtains first opened: the trailer for “2001”, which I’d never before seen in a theater. Also – NO COMMERCIALS! The Classics series just keeps getting better and better.

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on March 6, 2006 at 2:36 pm

Hi guys, I’m the new kid here. I was also at the screening of “Raiders” on Saturday. It was great to see not only baby boomers, like me, there but also younger people who couldn’t possibly have seen it 25 years ago and only know it from video. Moreover. I saw plenty of people with their kids—the whole point of the Classics program, bringing these great big screen films to succeeding generations. Be sure to go to Clearviewcinemas.com, click on customer comments, and tell them that you like the concept and want more! They really listen. Suggest titles. Tell them to continue the program during the next slow season. Please be positive and constructive, since this is one of the greatest things to happen in NY cinema in a long time. I’m not knocking Film Forum, MOMA, Moving Image, Walter Reade, etc—all great venues. But the Ziegfeld is the Ziegfeld. Sure, Radio City would be more impressive, but it ain’t happening there. It would be a tragedy to see the Ziegfeld go the way of the Astor Plaza.

Thank you all!!

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on March 6, 2006 at 6:06 am

Michael: You’re right – I should always go right to the source for any 70mm information. Thanks for posting a picture of the Century’s Paramus as a single-screen theater on your 70mm in New York page. I’ve always wanted to see what it looked like – I didn’t get there till 1971 after it was twinned.

Coate
Coate on March 5, 2006 at 9:33 pm

GREASE was a moveover from either the Loew’s Astor Plaza or the Loew’s State where it originally opened. But of course it was better at the Ziegfeld.

posted by Bill Huelbig on Jan 28, 2006 at 11:51am

“Grease” was better at the Ziegfeld because it was a 70mm presentation! The initial run (at the State) was 35mm and began about two months earlier.

Al,
Nice list of Ziegfeld engagements! But what’s up with the approximate dates?