Ziegfeld Theatre

141 West 54th Street,
New York, NY 10019

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JSA
JSA on October 22, 2014 at 5:10 pm

Ultra-Panavision and some of the early single-lens Cinerama films had an aspect ratio of up to 2.76:1. But I think many were screened closer to a 2.55:1 AR, on account of the screen width.

JSA

Mikeoaklandpark
Mikeoaklandpark on October 22, 2014 at 5:21 am

Good point Howard. The aspect ratio for 70mm at the Ziegfeld and the Boyd were actually not as wide as a scope 2.35 ratio.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on October 21, 2014 at 8:13 pm

http://in70mm.com/news/2014/interstellar/index.htm

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816692/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec

As to aspect ratio, The Master was 1.85 “flat” but 70mm was commonly 2.20 not 2.35 (scope)though a few early 70mm films half a century ago were even wider.

JSA
JSA on October 21, 2014 at 4:56 pm

According to the in70mm site, the aspect ratio of the 5-perf 70 mm prints is 2.20:1.

JSA

Mikeoaklandpark
Mikeoaklandpark on October 21, 2014 at 3:06 pm

Is this going to be a true 2.35 aspect ratio 70mm showing or 1.85 which The master was. to me 1.85 aspect ratio is not true 70mm

bigjoe59
bigjoe59 on October 21, 2014 at 1:40 pm

Hello-

like Bill H. I hope the film is as good as all the hype its getting. also I know I will get into whatever showing I want. the film will be playing at several other theaters in Manhattan and for some reason people consider this theater “off the beaten path”.

markp
markp on October 21, 2014 at 5:45 am

To answer your question thebrat, todays projectionists arent projectionists. All these chains got rid of us professionals years ago. I managed to hang on for a total of 37 years by working my last 10 for an independant after the union got thrown out by clearview. And joemasher, will 70mm be at the Zieg for the entire run?? Im planning on going in the 2nd week, as I cannot make it the first 9 days its there.

joemasher
joemasher on October 20, 2014 at 3:16 pm

All shows are 70mm. I will repair the website. Sorry for the confusion! Be assured though, 70mm.

mhvbear
mhvbear on October 20, 2014 at 1:51 pm

I would check with the theater that there hasn’t been a mistake with their website.

thebrat
thebrat on October 20, 2014 at 12:45 pm

CRAP! It looks like the Nov 8 6:45 pm showing is DIGITAL. I bought tickets for that show, and it looks like I have to trade the tickets for a 70mm showing or sell them. No way I’m going 250+ miles to see a crappy digital show on a 2K NEC projector, when I can see 35mm right in Fairfax.

But why is 35mm good when so-called “projectionists” these days scratch up the entire film?

15/70 would be nice if I didnt have to see black on most of the screen most of the time or hear it through Udvar-Hazy’s muddy sound system.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on October 8, 2014 at 12:42 pm

I like film…it’s better than digital…digital makes the movie look like a blu ray movie and an HDTV show.

markp
markp on October 8, 2014 at 12:27 pm

I plan on going there to see it in 70MM. It will be a pleasure to watch a movie on FILM instead of digital.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on October 8, 2014 at 10:45 am

moviebuff82: you should make the trip in for “Interstellar” in 70mm. It’ll be like going back to the Ziegfeld’s glory days. Hope the movie is as good as I want it to be!

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on October 7, 2014 at 2:58 pm

This coming December marks 45 years since this theater opened, quite a long run for this world famous theater. Some day I’ll go see a flick here…..

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on October 7, 2014 at 2:05 pm

THIS is the Ziegfeld page, where masking is used. For complaints on lack of masking in newer or redone theaters, please post on those pages.

BobbyS
BobbyS on October 7, 2014 at 10:54 am

It is sad to see some of the top chains not even bothering with masking anymore. Curtains are a thing of the past (too bad), but not even a top & bottom black mask when showing a wide screen movie. A letter-box showing should be unacceptable in a movie theatre where we can do that at home. Shame on Regal and others.

rasLXR
rasLXR on October 6, 2014 at 4:33 pm

Any technical fault with the sound processor and the back up system provides basic left and right channels only. Any amp problems could result in the surround being dropped as it is the least vital channel. This is how I have to keep the show going in the past. Just possible reason for no surround during your show.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on October 6, 2014 at 3:01 pm

It is a 4k projector but I don’t know what model. In all films, surround sound comes from Ziegfeld’s surround speakers. NO surround during my screening of The Master. I would’ve heard the ocean & so forth! Gone Girl’s audio was a special treat.

Giles
Giles on October 6, 2014 at 1:12 pm

I’m honestly not sure why Paul Thomas Anderson chose 70mm to film ‘The Master’ in – some of the photography looked great, but the subject matter and plot was so off kilter – I didn’t think it enhanced it.

Nor did I find the 5.1 sound that remarkable or memorable.

Blu-ray.com states that even the blu-ray disc “The DTS-HD MA 5.1 track reproduces Greenwood’s score with a forceful presence that takes full advantage of the surround array. .

Major effects such as the ocean or the interior of a naval vessel are noteworthy, but in general The Master’s mix goes for subtle environmental ambiance that doesn’t draw attention away from the visuals."

Howard: ‘Gone Girl’ is actually mixed in 7.1, so even though I haven’t seen it yet, I’d assume the mix would be much more prevalent and aggressive than ‘The Master’s’

question: is the digital projection system still the NEC projector or did it change when Bow Tie took over?

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on October 6, 2014 at 12:31 pm

For me, it was the movie itself. I know it got 3 Oscar nominations for acting, but I found it almost unwatchable. Projection and sound were fine, as they usually are at the Ziegfeld.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on October 6, 2014 at 12:30 pm

I saw The Master at the Ziegfeld. Projetion was excellent. There was no surround sound, which is the complaint. Surround is normally excellent as it was yesterday for Gone Girl which I saw there.

bigjoe59
bigjoe59 on October 6, 2014 at 12:07 pm

Hello Again-

I always wondered what the comments referred to. I always assumed it was on the quality of the projection and sound. so are all the comments about The Master’s screening at this theater about the film itself or the projection and sound?

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on October 6, 2014 at 11:52 am

I just thought it was a bad movie. Even 70mm couldn’t save it.

bigjoe59
bigjoe59 on October 6, 2014 at 11:49 am

Hello-

I saw The Master its opening weekend at the main auditorium of the Village East Cinemas on 2nd Ave. and 12t St.. the 70MM projection and sound were first rate. what went wrong at the Ziegfeld since everyone seems to be commenting on it.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on October 6, 2014 at 10:41 am

Too bad about no 6-track magnetic. But the very fact that the newest big sci-fi epic will be playing at the Ziegfeld in 70mm is cause for celebration. It’s like 1977 and “Close Encounters” all over again. This should make up for the lousy experience that was “The Master”.