Ziegfeld Theatre

141 West 54th Street,
New York, NY 10019

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Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on February 17, 2006 at 5:46 am

Bill, there is a rather funny Variety article from 1968 reporting that young audiences at the Capitol often sat on the floor instead of in their seats for 2001 and that the film was doing well although advance sales were poor and most sales occured just before the performance. It also alluded to the smoking of a certain substance by a large portion of the crowd, an nostalgia element the Ziegfeld will not be able to legally recreate.

JSA
JSA on February 17, 2006 at 1:22 am

“Lawrence of Arabia”… 70 mm… March 24… Director’s cut , I presume…humm… Jetblue has $ 119 each-way fare to JFK from Burbank… I wonder how I’m going to explain this one to the wife…

Craig: Good choices! Wish I could make it for the “Out of this World” week!

Regards,

JSA

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on February 17, 2006 at 12:55 am

A fond Ziegfeld memory: in October 1974 a Sunday night showing of “2001” sold out, and a whole bunch of people wound up sitting on the large expanse of carpeting between the front row and the screen. At a different show later in that engagement I tried it myself, getting down on the floor for the climactic Jupiter sequence. It wasn’t really the best angle to see the screen from, but it’s still a fun memory.

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on February 17, 2006 at 12:39 am

Craig-

Great news! So glad to hear once again that the classics series is working out for Clearview and the Ziegfeld. I am totally excited about all of the new films you have announced today. I think the largest screen I’ve ever seen ‘2001’ was at the Loews Astor Plaza a few years ago. I’m sure it will be great seeing it at the Ziegfeld. I haven’t seen ‘Close Encounters’ on the big screen since it’s first release back in 1978. I’ve never seen ‘Singin inthe Rain’, ‘Doctor Zhivago’ or ‘Alien’ at all so I’ll be at the Ziegfeld alot in the next few weeks. Thanks for responding to the board and keeping your eyes and ears open.

P.S. just a little New York City revival house trivia: Back in the summer of ‘90 or '91 Radio City did a very limited run of 'Blade Runner’. I think it may have been one or two nights only. The screening that I went to completely SOLD OUT. Every seat in Radio City that night was filled to see that movie. Amazing! Some of the live acts at Radio City can’t even sell out the house at times! I’m predicting that at least one of the films you’re showing in this line up will do the same at the Ziegfeld. Wouldn’t be surprised if it happened with all of the ‘Lord of the Rings’ and ‘Indiana Jones’ movies as well. A few of the last times I can remember being at the Ziegfeld when the house was full/sold out was at ‘Edward Scissorhands’ and a midnight screening on opening night of the lame Oliver Stone biopic ‘The Doors’. The crowd was alot of fun at that one and they did crank the music. Alot of drunk and stoned rock fans in there that night. Got pretty wild. It was almost like going to an actual rock show.

JSA
JSA on February 16, 2006 at 10:00 pm

Re Andreco’s Feb. 15 comment:

You are quite welcome! I only wish the best to all back East!

JSA

Andres
Andres on February 16, 2006 at 9:16 pm

I stand corrected Ed. I should have read more carefully. Best, Andres.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on February 16, 2006 at 7:07 pm

Singin in the Rain should be on a double bill with like maybe Funny Face. Gene and Fred and Audrey! All directed by Stanley.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on February 16, 2006 at 5:33 pm

Craig… Outstanding! I’ll see a 35mm “2001” with the hope that it will be an appetizer for a future 70mm screening. Please, please, please do whatever you can to see if there is a good 70mm around for a future booking!

Also, you should consider discount “series” tickets for folks like Bill who want to take in the entire schedule.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on February 16, 2006 at 4:53 pm

Craig: You’ve outdone yourself. I’ll be going to ALL of them – some of them more than once. Thanks!

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on February 16, 2006 at 4:39 pm

These are all true classics and excellent choices!

therock1
therock1 on February 16, 2006 at 4:21 pm

Hi there…

OK, here is the lineup:

“Most Requested Films Week” – March 10 – 16th:
Singin in the Rain
Doctor Zhivago
North By Northwest

“Out of this World Week” – March 17 – 23rd:
2001- A Space Odyssey
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Alien

“Lawrence of Arabia” in 70MM – March 24th – March 30th.

Thanks for your continued support and suggestions.

And….please continue to spread the word about the series!

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on February 16, 2006 at 12:13 pm

Bob… I think it’s a matter of pride amongst us New Yorkers. Yes, it’s true that classic movie presentation in a true movie palace is happening in Jersey City and in Suffern, but there is none of that going on in New York City. To some extent, it’s still NOT happening in New York City because the Ziegfeld is not a bona fide old fashion movie palace (we seem to have razed just about every last one of them, thank you very much). But having these films exhibited in our last remaining premiere-style big single screen house is certainly noteworthy.

Craig – let me join in on commending the friendly and courteous staff at the Ziegfeld who have certainly made the series an even more enjoyable experience. They are certainly the finest crew of any theater I currently attend on a regular basis. I am also very pleased to hear that the series has been extended and I’m thrilled at the prospect of a 70mm presentation of “Lawrence of Arabia.” I hope that a nice 70mm print of “2001” can make its way into your theater before long!

The screen at the Ziegfled – while not immense as I recall the one at the old Rivoli – is nice and big, particularly from my favorite vantage point at 10th row center. I think the “proscenium” makes the screen look smaller than it is. I’m sure they could install a floor to ceiling screen, but that would take some serious remodeling and would likely spell doom for the curtain. A curve would be nice, but again, that would require considerable renovations to the front of the house (and the loss of some seats, I would imagine).

Andreco – Yup, I’m aware that WSS was not Rita Moreno’s first motion picture. What I meant to say was that the audience applauded her first appearance in the MOVIE on Tuesday night – like audiences sometimes do when a major star makes their first stage entrance in a Broadway production.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on February 16, 2006 at 12:10 pm

Bob nobody appreciates what you did at the Loew’s more than I. If only you had the Ziegfeld to run!(Just install a larger screen.)

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on February 16, 2006 at 12:10 pm

Bob: I think nostalgia has a lot to do with it, in my case anyway. I’d only been to the Loew’s Jersey once before it was closed and re-opened, for “Ben-Hur” in 1961. And I’d never been to or even heard of the Lafayette until the Big Screen Classics series started. But the Ziegfeld was like a home to me. I must have seen “2001” there more than 20 times. Also “Lawrence of Arabia”, “Spartacus”, “Vertigo” – all in 70mm and multiple repeat viewings. Having the classics playing successfully there now makes me feel like the Ziegfeld has come back from the dead.

BobFurmanek
BobFurmanek on February 16, 2006 at 11:41 am

Would sure be nice to see that new 70mm print which was recently struck of IT’S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD.

When I was programming classic film at Loew’s Jersey, I played an original 35mm dye-transfer Technicolor print, and recreated the overture, intermission and police radio calls. We played it on a Saturday night back in 2001 and had over 700 people! This film hasn’t played in the New York area since, and I think would do quite well.

I have to smile at the folks responding as if no other theater in the Metro area has been doing classic film on a regular basis. Ever hear of the Lafayette in Suffern, or the Loew’s Jersey in Jersey City?

Sorry, but classic film on a big screen in a movie palace is not a new concept folks. Check the Loew’s Jersey thread and see what I was doing there 5 years ago.

chconnol
chconnol on February 16, 2006 at 9:51 am

I’m at my wits end! I keep getting e-mail notifications when someone replies despite the fact that I don’t have the box at the bottom checked off. I’ve written to Cinemtreasures but it’s not stopping. I’m betting tons of these.

Anyone know what to do?

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on February 16, 2006 at 3:10 am

andreco-

Film Forum is sponsored and run by individuals that come from more of a film ‘fellowship’ if you will than the Ziegfeld. Not to take anything away from the mangement of the Ziegfeld, but the people at Film Forum, because of their backgrounds might pay more attention to issues like having new prints, etc. Once again, not dissing or taking away anything from the Ziegfeld. Did you see the print of ‘The Gang’s All Here’ at Film Forum? I know that not many of those prints exist, but the one that Film Forum had last summer was not in the best of shape by any means. Scratchy, frames missing. Parts of it were a real mess. Why didn’t Film Forum decide NOT to run that film at all because of it’s condition? Did they exaust all of THEIR resources, from their illustrious board of directors or trustees, or whatever they call it to have a new print made if a good negative of that film even exists?

The point is, is that these films are OLD, and in all the years that I was going to revival houses when there were still alot of them in the city, you always ran into a bad print here and there. I remember seeing ‘Easy Rider’ at Theater 80-Saint Mark’s about 15 years ago and they screened the made for TV print! It was hilarious. Parts of the film were totally cut out including the part where Dennis Hopper flips off the truck drivers at the end. Snipped right out!

What more do you want? They just held over the classics series at the Ziegfeld and you have one of the people involved in management looking at this board, responding directly to us, and trying to accomodate our very specific film viewing needs. Cut ‘em some slack! I don’t think you need to pressure anybody about what has already happened and been addressed.

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on February 16, 2006 at 3:09 am

andreco-

Film Forum is sponsored and run by individuals that come from more of a film ‘fellowship’ if you will than the Ziegfeld. Not to take anything away from the mangement of the Ziegfeld, but the people at Film Forum, because of their backgrounds might pay more attention to issues like having new prints, etc. Once again, not dissing or taking away anything from the Ziegfeld. Did you see the print of ‘The Gang’s All Here’ at Film Forum? I know that not many of those prints exist, but the one that Film Forum had last summer was not in the best of shape by any means. Scratchy, frames missing. Parts of it were a real mess. Why didn’t Film Forum decide NOT to run that film at all because of it’s condition? Did they exaust all of THEIR resources, from their illustrious board of directors or trustees, or whatever they call it to have a new print made if a good negative of that film even exists?

The point is, is that these films are OLD, and in all the years that I was going to revival houses when there were still alot of them in the city, you always ran into a bad print here and there. I remember seeing ‘Easy Rider’ at Theater 80-Saint Mark’s about 15 years ago and they screened the made for TV print! It was hilarious. Parts of the film were totally cut out including the part where Dennis Hopper flips off the truck drivers at the end. Snipped right out!

What more do you want? They just held over the classics series at the Ziegfeld and you have one of the people involved in management looking at this board, responding directly to us, and trying to accomodate our very specific film viewing needs. Cut ‘em some slack! I don’t think you need to pressure anybody about what has already happened addressed.

Andres
Andres on February 16, 2006 at 2:46 am

PS to my previous comment: To JSA of LA, thanks for your comments and support.

Andres
Andres on February 16, 2006 at 2:43 am

Re the quality of prints — specially My Fair Lady at the Ziegfeld: How come the Film Forum, a small — very small — independent non-profit cinema here in NYC can get new struck prints in scope and double projection 3D for their revivals and Clearview, a giant exhibitor, can’t? Any answers, Craig?

Andres
Andres on February 16, 2006 at 2:41 am

Re the quality of prints — specially My Fair Lady at the Ziegfeld: How come the Film Forum, a small — very small — independent non-profit cinema here in NYC can get new struck prints in scope and double projection 3D for their revivals and Clearview, a giant exhibitor, can’t? Any answers, Craig?

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on February 16, 2006 at 1:59 am

TO CRAIG O'CONNOR/CLEARVIEW CINEMAS:

So glad to hear the great news about extending the classics festival! It’s great to know that A) there will be more classic films and more reasons for me to go to The Ziegfeld, a place I really love and B) that Clearview and the management of the Ziegfeld have found this a worthwhile endeavor. Obviously the numbers are good and people are filling the seats. Contrary to popular opinion, there IS an audience for this type of entertainment that goes beyond film geeks like us here on Cinema Treasures. It just goes to show that if you present something and you do it with class you can’t lose. I hope the classics series continues well beyond March and we see this as a regular attraction at the Ziegfeld. Film revival is something that was always one of the great aspects with living in the New York City area. It has been gone for far too long and hopefully with this classics series we will be seeing it’s long overdue renaissance.

JSA
JSA on February 16, 2006 at 12:41 am

To HowardBHaas (and all those interested in Cinerama):

Regarding the screen required for Cinerama, check out the recent comment posted by haineshisway on the Cinerama Dome section. Technically he’s correct. However, I have seen “How The West Was Won” at the Dome, and it is a truly spectacular experience.

JSA

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on February 15, 2006 at 10:42 pm

To clarify, the true Cinerama screen is gone from the Uptown. However, as I said, the Uptown offers the best possibility for Cinerama in the east coast. LA & Seattle venues are in daily moviehouses, which I doubt the Mayfair-Demille-Embassy 2-3-4 will become again. Cinerama is only presented for a few weeks at most in those W. Coast cities. The Uptown could put the screen back, open up the A & C booths again, bring back projectors & sound. No other daily moviehouse has the infrastructure of 3 booths.

The KB Cinema’s 35-70 mm projectors are at the Loew’s Jersey.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on February 15, 2006 at 10:37 pm

I’ve spoken at length with the projectionist in the Uptown booth. Cinerama requires a special screen. of thin strips if I recall correctly. It has been replaced. The current screen may be Cinerama sized, but that’s different. Of course, putting up a Cinerama screen would be relatively easy in the space that had it before, as opposed to at the Ziegfeld.

Last I knew, Uptown’s best projection over the Friday to Sunday period, with professional projectionist. They were having a controversy over a platter that had arrived- and that’s long after
platters arrived in most other movie theaters.

The sound has some surround from the back, but overall is usually loud enough. I’ve never seen poor projection there or found the sound wasn’t loud enough. The Uptown is a magnificient movie going experience. Restored or new prints, I’ve seen there the 70 mm epics people want at the Ziegfeld: Lawrence of Arabia, Ben Hur, Dr. Zhivago, 2001, and more. Truly incredible on the huge screen!

The Ziegfeld’s screen probably isn’t small, but somehow it is the original design of the house that makes it look that way. It is almost certainly bigger than the old KB Cinema on Wisconsin Avenue in DC, but that one was set better and always seemed bigger. However, the Ziegfeld is a neat venue because of its decoration. It has excellent sound, but the Astor Plaza had even better.