AMC Rockaway Inner 6/Outer 6

301 Mount Hope Avenue,
Rockaway, NJ 07866

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moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on June 12, 2009 at 2:58 pm

This theater was the first AMC theater I went to.

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moviebuff82 on June 3, 2009 at 11:38 am

During its period, what movie was the longest running and most popular? I think it would be the Star Wars movies, since the first one came out long before the AMC Rockaway Inner 6 opened on Labor Day of 1977, the same weekend that the mall opened. The Rockaway Outer 6 opened in Feburary of 1981, a few months before the first Indiana Jones movie came out. The Inner theaters closed in 1998 when Armageddon came out, then the Outers closed in 2002 when Spider-Man came out.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on March 24, 2009 at 12:54 pm

thanks for the photo links, greg. Which theater was better, the old Rockaway 12 or the new Rockaway 16? I think the newer one was great and that moviegoers would just have one choice to go see a movie rather than go in or out of the mall to see it.

blacknoi
blacknoi on March 11, 2009 at 1:30 pm

You can actually see the “gold” AMC written in the doors, in this shot. Its from a-far, but its in the gold bar in the center of the door:

http://tinyurl.com/cauj38

Here’s a view of the “arcade” if you can call it that:

http://tinyurl.com/c43qu7

And finally, here’s the Box Office Sinage. Oldschool box of letters to put up:

http://tinyurl.com/ah5pg9

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on March 11, 2009 at 1:23 pm

after the outer closed, several retailers in that same building have come and gone, while a few, such as acme, have survived since the outer’s opening in 1981. the doors that were near the entrance had the gold amc logo in the middle of the doors as well as a changeable display that was small but easy to read. inside the lobby, there were more arcade machines than the current one, and the concession stand was tiny.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on February 25, 2009 at 12:35 pm

Closing the last of the AMC Rockaway theaters was a bad mistake not only by AMC, but also by Simon, both are which are affected by the recession.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on November 22, 2008 at 10:16 am

Had the AMC Outer six become a Circuit City, it would’ve suffered the same fate as others in the area (the closest is in Ledgewood). There are no traces of the original Rockaway theaters left, even during the renovation period that the mall went under this year.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on October 6, 2008 at 11:32 am

Which carried on into the Rockaway 16’s stadium seats. The moviewatcher club made its debut at both theaters and so did clip, that filmstrip guy which is my favorite movie mascot alongside Popcorn Bob of GC. I didn’t join moviewatcher until my credits program was discontinued due to the acquisition by AMC the year that it closed, in 2002.

blacknoi
blacknoi on September 3, 2008 at 7:26 am

@Justin …

I can’t say when they were introduced into the theaters, but during my time at the Inners/Outers (95 through closing in 98 for inners, then 02 in outers) they always had cup holders built into the arm rests.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on September 2, 2008 at 2:34 pm

Among the movies that played at this theater was a remake of The Fury, which I found in the old showtimes section on Google News' news archive. This is from the New York times, which you have to pay money to check out which movies were playing at the theaters. Under the newspapers, the theater was just simply ROCKAWAY SIX, then ROCKAWAY TWELVE underneath the AMC name. Back then, two phone numbers would separate the theaters. When the inner six closed, so did the phone number, leaving the outer six with the phoneline for showtimes and questions. This practice would go on to its successor, which is twice the size of the outer six.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on July 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm

When the outers opened in 1981, did they introduce cupholders at that location? Cause AMC was the first to patent the invention at its newer theaters.

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moviebuff82 on April 26, 2008 at 12:31 pm

Having been to both locations where FYE and Best Buy stand where the old theaters used to be, the size of both theaters combined would be very equal to the Rockaway 16, but a bit smaller and with sloped seating. The Outers probably had larger screens than the Inners and were located within walking distance of ACME and other shops. Inside the Best Buy, there’s a Magnolia showroom that could be mistaken for one of the screening rooms at the old Rockaway theater, but with high-tech gadgets.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on April 15, 2008 at 1:13 pm

When the Outers were renovated in 1994, SDDS was installed alongside the Dolby systems as part of the chain’s agreement with Sony Cinema Digital Products (sic) to install the less popular sound system in all of its theaters. The movie that I saw in one of the lower number houses was presented in Dolby Digital. No wonder why AMC discontinued SDDS in 2003 in favor of Dolby Digital EX as well as PCM surround sound in its newer auditoriums. Originally, Loews wanted to make the theater in Rockaway, but residents were happy to see AMC return there when the chain merged with the struggling company ten months before the 16-plex opened.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on April 5, 2008 at 7:47 am

My bad. The new indy will be shown digitally from a 35mm source for several theaters around the area as well as being shown in regular 35mm, not to mention a rare 70mm print shown only at Cannes in France for its world premiere. As for surround sound trailers, read my post over at this theater’s successor. In that one auditorium, the speakers were probably hidden around the room and they were slanted. It wasn’t as loud as the Rockaway 16, but a good theater that sold Coke, which the new one still sells. The mascot for AMC, Clip, is still alive, and nowadays I would refer to the AMC 16 as the Outer 16, if AMC wanted to build another theater where some stores might go out of business.

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moviebuff82 on April 3, 2008 at 11:58 am

Speaking of Lucasfilm, was that house THX certified? At the time, the closest THX houses were in East Orange, East Hanover, and Bridgewater, at the time owned by General Cinema and Loews Cineplex, which would soon be absorbed by AMC the year that the Rockaway 12 closed and the year that construction began on its successor. FYI, all three Indy movies played at the Rockaway theaters since the year the Outer Six opened, 1981. When The Last Crusade came out, it was also playing in Morristown, AMC’s sister theater, which was the closest theater with 70mm projection. Flash forward to the upcoming Indy movie, and Indy returns to a new theater, same city, and another theater outfitted with DLP that sadly will show Indy 4 in 35mm.

blacknoi
blacknoi on March 3, 2008 at 5:13 pm

“Why did AMC fail to renew the lease with the mall before the new AMC opened?”

Its my understanding that Simon property group did not want the Inners there anymore. If you’ll recall, it was a HUGE teen hangout on Fri/Sat nights. It even required a police presence to patrol the Mall entrance by the inners and Sears. This was undesirable to SIMON. In fact many “mom and pop” type stores started to leave when leases were up, immediately following Simon buying the mall in the early/mid 90s. This was by design to give the mall a higher class feel.

I believe that Simon persuaded AMC to leave the space by making the new lease’s price SO expensive, it was cost prohibitive to stay. Combine this with the fact that AMC was trying to get out of the business of the smaller theaters (focusing on free standing Megaplexes), it was the perfect recipe to get rid of the Inners.

FYI: Looking at the prior 3 posts, the Outers never had the DTS soundsystem. And only house 12 (first theater on your right when you walked in) had Dolby Digital. All houses 7-12 had Sony Dynamic Digital Sound (SDDS) and analog. I remember that people from Lucasfilms actually came in and re-calibrated house 12 when Saving Private Ryan came out.

I’m fairly certain the Inners never had any digital sound but someone will have to correct me if I’m wrong. I hardly worked in the inners, as the outers was my primary “home” 1995-2002.

PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on March 3, 2008 at 1:54 pm

Well, unless the theatre is damaging the film print, the Dolby Digital works just fine. The same type of damage that can affect the Dolby Digital track will affect the DTS track as well. Sound quality is essentially equivalent between them. Regarding “surround”, if the DTS track isn’t working, the sound comes from the analog stereo Dolby tracks, the same as if the Dolby Digital track isn’t working.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on March 3, 2008 at 1:37 pm

Dolby digital is a film-based system, while DTS relies on CD-Roms to read the data. Plus, DTS' bitrate is higher than DD, and the surround sound can work even if the film is damaged.

PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on March 3, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Why would bigger screens be a gripe? Dolby Digital delivers just as good sound as DTS, so I’m not sure I understand that gripe, either.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on March 3, 2008 at 1:11 pm

When the first gen rockaway theaters opened, they proved to be a success for AMC just like the second gen version. The good thing about the new theaters is that you can simply get there without deciding whether to see a movie inside or outside the mall. Plus, there’s plenty of parking near and around the theater. The only gripe is that the screens are much bigger than the old rockaway theater and that tickets are more expensive than the smaller theaters. Plus, both the old and new Rockaway theaters don’t have DTS, which can be found mostly in Clearviews.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on February 10, 2008 at 11:11 am

Check this link out…
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it’s always updated whenever a new store opens or closes. Judging by the size of each building now occupied by the Best Buy and the FYE/ retailers, the Outers were larger and had more seats while the Inners had fewer seats. Parking must’ve been a hassle back then since both complexes shared space with other retailers. As for acoustics, I think the Inners didn’t do well since you would hear the crowd outside the mall. Why did AMC fail to renew the lease with the mall before the new AMC opened?

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on February 5, 2008 at 11:53 am

Similiar to what the Meadow Six did with big movies whereas the Plaza 8 handled with smaller movies. Currently they don’t do that anymore since AMC acquired the Loews brand and ran it into the ground. BTW, the screens at the AMC 16 are much bigger than the smaller one, but projection is more blurrier even though the surround sound is bassier than the original. The space left by AMC’s Outer 6 made it a perfect location for Best Buy, while the Inner Theater’s remains were turned into a hotspot for stealing and loitering in the soon to be gone FYE store.

blacknoi
blacknoi on February 5, 2008 at 4:36 am

As a manager for the Outer theaters (and basically running the place prior to it’s closing on July 28th, 2002, I can say that at least in the late 90’s and early 00’s, the OUTERS definitely did more business.

All the “blockbuster” movies would go to the outers where smaller films and many kid films would get sent to the inner theaters.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on February 4, 2008 at 12:34 pm

Looks like that space occupied by the inner theaters will soon be open again, as FYE is planning a sale on all its merchandise before closing for good. AMC will never open a theater in that mall again since they opened the Rockaway 16, which is more popular than the old theater. Maybe an Old Navy should be there, as the closest Old Navy is in Mt. Olive, and also in Wayne. The space occupied by the music/video/games retailer is very large and appropriate for a clothing store, as its sister store right across the street (not related to the old theater), Sat. Matinee, is smaller. When it ran as a 12 plex, which theater did better business, the outer or inner?

PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on January 25, 2008 at 11:42 am

When the outer 6 theatres opened in 1981, not all of the auditoriums were equipped with Dolby Stereo, but they all had it within a couple of years. The inner 6 theatres had it in at least 2 of the auditoriums when I was in their booth in 1980.